Frenchman suspected of killing his son then committing suicide in Jomtien

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Frenchman suspected of killing his son then committing suicide in Jomtien



PATTAYA: -- On Monday afternoon, Police were called to a Condominium Complex in Jomtien where a suspected murder and suicide had taken place.

Police were directed to room number 415 on the 4th floor of the Park Lane Jomtien Resort, known to be occupied by a Frenchman, Mr. Yonatan Kerner aged 28 and his 2 year old son. Inside were the bodies of both individuals who are thought to have been dead for approximately 3 days. Police were alerted by cleaning staff at the complex who noticed a foul odor coming from the room.

Forensic Police were called in and began by examining the body of the 2 year old boy. His head was wrapped in a plastic bag and evidence of severe blows to the head were documented. The boy had also been cut across his neck and it is believed he was administered an injection of Nembutal 100ml, which is a powerful anesthetic and can induce death if a high dose is administered.

The body of Mr. Kerner was found next to the bed in a separate bedroom. It appeared he also suffered from a major laceration to his neck and he also had a plastic bag over his head. In the bathroom Police saw evidence of a failed hanging which they assume involved Mr. Kerner who, Police think, intended to initially commit suicide by hanging, which was unsuccessful.

Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/134249/frenchman-suspected-of-killing-his-son-then-committing-suicide-in-jomtien/


-- Pattaya One 2014-07-08

[balo]

What a tragedy. RIP. I hope the police will do the proper investigation and find out if the man was depressed or mentally ill.

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[Bernard Flint]

What a tragedy. RIP. I hope the police will do the proper investigation and find out if the man was depressed or mentally ill.

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I dont think he would have been of sound mind mate.

[AGareth2]

poor child

evil man

[Patje]

What a tragic end and waste of life , RIP .

[rebelplatoon]

I am not a forensic expert but, a plastic bag over your own head in order to commit suicide? Weird. Sad story.

[ILOOKFORWORK]

Doesn't seem really logical to assume a murder suicide this early. Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. The info from the article doesn't give enough info to know. In addition, it depends on whether or not the police aren't lazy on the case. Fingerprints and DNA, background info and lots more stuff should be looked into before automatically making the final call on the case.

[crazykopite]

They came to there conclusion pretty quick " Suicide " I hope the little boy did not suffer can never understand why someone would kill there own flesh and blood R.I.P

[kkup]

The police "assumed" murder suicide, wrote a quick report and went to have a beer.

[newermonkey]

The investigative abilities of the BIB is notoriously lacking. There are so many ways this tragedy could have played out. My own (MY OWN) guess would have been more on the lines of a Thai woman doing this and making it look like murder suicide (Thai boyfriend involved) There has to be a nasty Thai woman involved at some level in this ugly deed, surly?

[Borzandy]

"his Thai Wife 3 months ago after she filed a Police Report at Dongtan Police Station on Jomtien Beach which detailed allegations of physical abuse.She is thought to have e fled to Korat Province in the North-East of Thailand without her child who was left in the care of Mr. Kerner." strange behaviour of the Thai wife.

[SOTIRIOS]

....and the mother.....???

[louthlincs]

How often such abhorrent acts occur there. Do people from all around the world wake up one morning and think to themselves "I'll go to pattaya to commit suicide" or is it just possible this place may corrupt the sense and sensibilities of humankind, time and time again...

[Albertosez]

Truly shocking. I hope he has some family who insist on a thorough investigation. There must have been easier and less painful ways to end 2 x lives. The choices that this guy made ( allegedly ) seem violent and difficult - and if nothing else, that should make the police / family sufficiently suspicious to investigate this further !

[LotusBoy]

RIP to you young nipper.......

Hell to you Frenchy!!!!

[Albertosez]

How often such abhorrent acts occur there. Do people from all around the world wake up one morning and think to themselves "I'll go to pattaya to commit suicide" or is it just possible this place may corrupt the sense and sensibilities of humankind, time and time again...

Not everything is that straight forward! What gets written on a death certificate is not always correct - it's just convenient !

[F4UCorsair]

I am not a forensic expert but, a plastic bag over your own head in order to commit suicide? Weird. Sad story.

A common and painless method of suicide. Add a can of nitrogen and even faster.

What a sad story, a little boy a victim of his own father!

Edited July 8, 2014 by F4UCorsair

[phantomfiddler]

Plastic bags, drug injections, severe beatings, blood covered knives ? This doesn,t sound like your normal suicide to me ! but less work for pattaya,s finest, that,s for sure

[Iumentum]

For the conspiracy theorists, 2 letters has been found, one for his family and one for his thai wife. So you might just think they jumped to conclusion so they could have an early coffee break, but that is so typical some of you commenters in here.

To those who condemn the father, you have no clue what pushed him this far. No saying what he did can be justified, but there might be reasons for his actions which is beyond mentally disturbed.

May both R.I.P, such a terrible story.

[hobobo]

RIP, both of you. But if the wife complained of physical abuse and left him, why didn't she take the boy with her??? She should know that the abuse dealt to her can easily transfer on to the son... Or didn't she care?

[Ve37]

What a tragedy. RIP. I hope the police will do the proper investigation and find out if the man was depressed or mentally ill.

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Yes,....quite a tragedy.

Seems like just a day ago I read of a fellow, whose wife left him for her former Tom, and he killed himself and 2 sons,....sort of a complete divorce. Maybe better for the sons that way. But it will take many more suicides before wives emotionally pledged to their Toms take notice.

[Albertosez]

For the conspiracy theorists, 2 letters has been found, one for his family and one for his thai wife. So you might just think they jumped to conclusion so they could have an early coffee break, but that is so typical some of you commenters in here.

To those who condemn the father, you have no clue what pushed him this far. No saying what he did can be justified, but there might be reasons for his actions which is beyond mentally disturbed.

May both R.I.P, such a terrible story.

Being skeptical and suspicious can keep people alive in Thailand, being naive will certainly get you in to trouble here !

[Baerboxer]

I am not a forensic expert but, a plastic bag over your own head in order to commit suicide? Weird. Sad story.

A common and painless method of suicide. Add a can of nitrogen and even faster.

What a sad story, a little boy a victim of his own father!

Plastic bags with a drawstring or taped on? Maybe painless if used with an inert gas but without the increased carbon dioxide leads to panic and struggling. He would have had to immobilize his hands to prevent the natural body reactions from ripping it off. Instinct kicks in. Not that common either compared to hanging, shooting, jumping from heights, drowning or self poisoning / drug overdose.

This is a very sad tragic case. Two young lives lost. Hopefully the RTP will actually investigate this thoroughly and carefully rather than assume the answer that's easiest for them must be correct and declare case solved.

A failed hanging, knife wound to the throat and plastic bag - should raise some red flags for the police that might require some further investigation.

Hopefully the French authorities will put some pressure on them to find out the truth.

[rhodie]

So sad. RIP. Nobody of sound mind does something like that if he did do it. Pity he could not be helped.

[Iumentum]

For the conspiracy theorists, 2 letters has been found, one for his family and one for his thai wife. So you might just think they jumped to conclusion so they could have an early coffee break, but that is so typical some of you commenters in here.

To those who condemn the father, you have no clue what pushed him this far. No saying what he did can be justified, but there might be reasons for his actions which is beyond mentally disturbed.

May both R.I.P, such a terrible story.

Being skeptical and suspicious can keep people alive in Thailand, being naive will certainly get you in to trouble here !

Nothing wrong by being skeptic, but blind hatred as a some got towards the law enforcement here is ridiculous. While we can agree that not every case is being handled in an optimized way, but some try to claim that the police jumped to conclusion, which we really don't know if they did yet. And those who claim this are actually the ones jumping to conclusion.

I am just getting tired of reading hate comments for what seem to me to be hypocrites.

[i claudius]

The investigative abilities of the BIB is notoriously lacking. There are so many ways this tragedy could have played out. My own (MY OWN) guess would have been more on the lines of a Thai woman doing this and making it look like murder suicide (Thai boyfriend involved) There has to be a nasty Thai woman involved at some level in this ugly deed, surly?

Why ? just why?

[spike]

3 days before the father and his son were found...and then by a cleaning crew? The mom didn't check on her son while he was being cared for by the unbalanced father?

Rip young one.

[Goffi]

It is prudent not to judge anyone unless you have walked in their shoes.

A tragic and sad end to two lives - no matter the reason - RIP to them both

[i claudius]

The way some of you go on ,what sort of women and men do you mix with ? what sort of people do you know? how sad are your lives? 24 years i have lived here ,had buisness here ,had girlfriends and a wife here ,with whom i have a son ,the two serious g/friends i had were lovely ,their famillies as well ,showing me nothing but kindness ,as with my wife and her familly ,only once have i ever seen violence and that was between 3 Thai guys . and i have lived in BKK and Pattaya at different times ,you always seem to see the glass as half full ,it must be a nightmare for you living here always looking over your shoulders and seeing the bad side of it all.

[Thailaw]

What a tragedy. RIP. I hope the police will do the proper investigation and find out if the man was depressed or mentally ill.

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I think that the answer is (obviously) "both"... How could any sane person do that to a two year old little boy? And at this point, what difference does it make? If he was merely depressed, will you suggest counseling, or if mentally ill confine him to an institution so as to prevent it from happening again?