1400 children sexually exploited in UK town Rotherham: report

[jacky54]

Any reason that you have repeated the exact same post as a little earlier in the thread?

You're the expert at that; why do you do it?

why do you claim you are going away only to post 2 minutes later?

'feel in desperate need of fresh air; so am leaving this cess pit of hate for a while'.

[7by7]

What is it about 'for a while' that you don't understand?

You and Ulysses G are both from the same mould; Can't argue with the big things, so pick holes in the small ones.

BTW, Ulysses G; anyone who reads any your many posts in a variety of topics knows about your habit of duplicating your posts.

Edited August 30, 2014 by 7by7

[jacky54]

What is it about 'for a while' that you don't understand?

You and Ulysses G are both from the same mould; Can't argue with the big things, so pick holes in the small ones.

BTW, Ulysses G; anyone who reads any your many posts in a variety of topics knows about your habit of duplicating your posts.

I would have thought for a while would be a couple of days rather than two minutes. Quite ready to argue with the big things, fancy a debate on the koranic and hadith attitudes to women, how would that do? BTW are you posting from work or unemployed?

[Ulysses G.]

I would have thought for a while would be a couple of days rather than two minutes.

Or at least an hour.

[Ulysses G.]

BTW, Ulysses G; anyone who reads any your many posts in a variety of topics knows about your habit of duplicating your posts.

The exact same post on the next page of the same thread? Not likely.

Edited August 30, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[7by7]

BTW are you posting from work or unemployed?

Relevant how?

BTW, I'll give you a clue; it's Saturday.

[jacky54]

But it's not Saturday the rest of the week is it!

Edited August 30, 2014 by jacky54

[joecoolfrog]

Sorry for the double post , it was sitting on my system when I woke up and I wrongly assumed it had not gone last night....Doh !

[Mosha]

People are asking where the parents were, They were being arrested for trying to rescue their kids. The names of the kids in care were provided by "Asian" councillors

http://www.telegraph...-blind-eye.html

[7by7]

But it's not Saturday the rest of the week is it!

So, how is my employment status relevant?

[Mosha]

Imagine the reaction if the perps were Israelis. The streets would be full

[jacky54]

Imagine the reaction if the perps were Israelis. The streets would be full

Or if the victims had all been Muslim kids abused by white Christians, Rotherham would have been burned to the ground, or at least the Churches.

[Richard W]

The men responsible for this horrendous crime were all British. Many in this topic say they are not racist as they object to the men's religion, not their race. Yet you and others keep referring to them as Pakistani! They are not; they are British.

'British' as an immigration status, not as an ethnicity. Given the statistics on seeking spouses from Pakistan (about 60%), I expect most of them to actually be Pakistani citizens.

Do we have any evidence on the culprits' precise ethnic backgrounds? Are they Punjabi, Kashmiri, Pashtun or whatever?

From one or two sources, it seems that we may have someone of Pakistani origin (Nazir Afzal) to thank for the prosecutions actually being carried out.

[joecoolfrog]

Mosha

Yes no doubt if the perpetrators were Israeli then the racist hyperbole would come from different sources , same same but different !

[MJP]

Drugged and targeted for sex. They were the lucky ones

Survivors of the Rotherham gangs tell Joe Shute of an underworld the authorities shied away from confronting

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11065354/Drugged-and-targeted-for-sex.-They-were-the-lucky-ones.html

Vicky, now 27 and training to be a paramedic, is one of the countless youngsters groomed by the predatory gangs of Pakistani men allowed to roam the South Yorkshire town with near impunity for so long.

Edited August 30, 2014 by MJP

[tartempion]

Dear 7by7, I was raised and abused by Catholic nutters.

Equally, those raised to show their asses in the opposite direction from Mecca don't get any sympathy from me, in Jerusalem and Antwerp you also see plenty of nutters.

In short, humans are the worst Nature has produced (and I write Nature with an N for those who believe in a god of some kind)

a mistake for sure, but you must disagree isn't?

[Mosha]

Mosha

Yes no doubt if the perpetrators were Israeli then the racist hyperbole would come from different sources , same same but different !

What I mean is you would see the same reaction from the lefty liberals you see over Gaza. Just for the record my user name is derived from a non pc nickname I had at work cos I have a big nose. I changed the e to an o. Just in case anyone thinks I have an agenda.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Mosha

[thaibeachlovers]

Dear 7by7, I was raised and abused by Catholic nutters.

Equally, those raised to show their asses in the opposite direction from Mecca don't get any sympathy from me, in Jerusalem and Antwerp you also see plenty of nutters.

In short, humans are the worst Nature has produced (and I write Nature with an N for those who believe in a god of some kind)

a mistake for sure, but you must disagree isn't?

and religion brings out the worst in humans. How many have been murdered in the name of "God"?

[nontabury]

I am an atheist , I dont feel anymore threatened by a mosque then I do by a church or a synagogue , radical Islamists get their fix these days from the Internet not from the local Imam.

You sure do spend a lot of time excusing and making justifications for radical Islam on all different threads and you are not the only one. It is difficult to figure out what the real motivation is of posters that only seem to see their side of the story.

No one here is excusing or justifying radical Islam, Islamic terrorists, child abuse by Muslims etc..

The motivation of those, like myself, who defend ordinary law abiding Muslims is to try and educate the ignorant, racist, Islamaphobic haters that the terrorists, murderers etc. who use Islam as their excuse do not represent the vast majority of Muslims.

To try and show that the vile men who committed these terrible crimes against children did so because they are evil, perverted men; not because they are Muslim.

But the haters on this forum are not interested in these facts; they are only interested in spreading their hate.

Fortunately, whilst the easily led, such as the average EDL supporter, may fall for this propaganda, the vast majority of the British public, whatever their religion or ethnic background, are far too intelligent to do so.

They are able to separate the wheat from the chaff; condemn the evil, yet defend the innocent.

That you cannot see the difference between the two is a comment on you; not others.

The problem with what you say 7x7 is that the Majority of those Muslims who have not partaken in these vile crimes, have unfortunately remained very quite, preferring not to condemn these animals, the same as they did not condemn the actions of 7/11, the London bombings and the slaughter of a British soldier who had also saved in Afghanistan along side Jabron Hasmi.

Until the majority of the Muslim community stand up and whole heartedly condemn these extremist, then you can expect the rest of the population to be very suspicious of them and also for people to think that the Islam apologist are people who may have good intentions but who are deluding themselves.

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[nontabury]

Forgot about this one,sorry I mis read, i thought Rotherham but this is Rochdale so it might be off topic, same crime by the same people though in the same County

Rochdale grooming gang leader gets 22 years for child rape

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/02/rochdale-grooming-leader-child-rape

Rochdale is in Lancashire, Rotherham is in Yorkshire. You must come from south of Watford.

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[nontabury]

I live near Rotherham this is nothing to do with religion , its about abuse of young girls, covered up by Both Asian and white people, Pakistani and English.

As I stated earlier, I used to live in Rotherham and also worked for Rotherham council, both Rural and Met, what you should be asking yourself is why these terrible events were covered up, not by the Asian community ( Hindu,Sikhs, Buddhist etc)but by the Muslim community, and why were the responsible white people too afraid raise their concerns.

For one group of white people the reason being is that Rotherham is, sorry was predominantly Labour, who do you think the overwhelming majority of Muslims vote for.

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[Mosha]

Forgot about this one,sorry I mis read, i thought Rotherham but this is Rochdale so it might be off topic, same crime by the same people though in the same County

Rochdale grooming gang leader gets 22 years for child rape

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/02/rochdale-grooming-leader-child-rape

Rochdale is in Lancashire, Rotherham is in Yorkshire. You must come from south of Watford.

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To a Tyke, owt South of Barnsley is down South.

[jacky54]

Forgot about this one,sorry I mis read, i thought Rotherham but this is Rochdale so it might be off topic, same crime by the same people though in the same County

Rochdale grooming gang leader gets 22 years for child rape

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/02/rochdale-grooming-leader-child-rape

Rochdale is in Lancashire, Rotherham is in Yorkshire. You must come from south of Watford.

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Sorry you are right, it's all up north to me and the Chang did not help!

[joecoolfrog]

Ulysses G

I have never once attempted to justify the actions of radical Islamists either on this or any other forum. Stop posting lies !

[CBR250]

I dunno, ISIS, now this, again. I weep for my homeland And yes of course it's this bs PC related. When reading comments on online British press reports, you know the ethnicity of the perpetrators of certain criminal acts, but aren't allowed to comment on it. 'This comment has been removed as it does not conform with our guidelines'. Yeah, okay.

Whew! As an Aussie I am so glad that the British press were not allowed to mention Rolf Harris' origins. (Although my aboriginal mates reckon that a mere 200 years doesn't stop a Brit being a Brit, so which country does he really belong to???).

PS I presume Jimmy Saville was also Pakistani? Along with Ralph Bonner Pink, MP (sexually abused his daughter).

There is a list of dozens of MPs and political figures who have been convicted of a variety of sex abuse charges, including torture of young children. (http://conspiracytruths.co.uk/mpscovictedofsexoffense.html) Strangely, they all have Anglo-Saxon sounding names. Must have changed them on arrival in the UK from whatever Muslim / Arab / African / Asian den of iniquity from which they really came.

[Lantern]

I suggest to you that Christians would be extremely offended by your post

Maybe but they wont try to kill him because of it.

As stated in a previous post, until normal Muslims stand along side everyone else decrying these crimes, the UK will continue to sink lower and lower.

[Cambodger]

I dunno, ISIS, now this, again. I weep for my homeland And yes of course it's this bs PC related. When reading comments on online British press reports, you know the ethnicity of the perpetrators of certain criminal acts, but aren't allowed to comment on it. 'This comment has been removed as it does not conform with our guidelines'. Yeah, okay.

Whew! As an Aussie I am so glad that the British press were not allowed to mention Rolf Harris' origins. (Although my aboriginal mates reckon that a mere 200 years doesn't stop a Brit being a Brit, so which country does he really belong to???).

PS I presume Jimmy Saville was also Pakistani? Along with Ralph Bonner Pink, MP (sexually abused his daughter).

There is a list of dozens of MPs and political figures who have been convicted of a variety of sex abuse charges, including torture of young children. (http://conspiracytruths.co.uk/mpscovictedofsexoffense.html) Strangely, they all have Anglo-Saxon sounding names. Must have changed them on arrival in the UK from whatever Muslim / Arab / African / Asian den of iniquity from which they really came.

Why shouldn't the Muslim Pakistani community take collective responsibility/ blame and even collective punishment too when they clearly have a systemic problem within their society.

Its a useful tool as it forces influential/ respected members of a group to take control and bring the wayward members into line for the greater good.

Look at English football hooligans in the 1980s, it was only a minority of fans who caused trouble but Fifa banned all English clubs for a decade.

You didn't hear many English people complaining that only the trouble causers should be banned, what about all the good fans, Italians have hooligans too....

No people thought it was reasonable because it was a embarrassment to the country, people felt shamed by a minority of their countrymen and expressed that openly.

It forced the FA, government, clubs and other fans to crack down on the hooligan culture to the point that England fans today are some of the better behaved fans in Europe.

We took collective responsibility something the Pakistani community still seem unwilling to do.

[Steely Dan]

Imagine the reaction if the perps were Israelis. The streets would be full

Or if the victims had all been Muslim kids abused by white Christians, Rotherham would have been burned to the ground, or at least the Churches.

The PM would have fallen on his sword too no doubt and the press would have indulged in race baiting whitey as oppose to obfuscating by using misleading generic terms such as 'Asian'. Little wonder many Muslims appear to have hair trigger sensitivities when the UK seemly bends over backwards to accord them privileged status.

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies deleted.

[nontabury]

I dunno, ISIS, now this, again. I weep for my homeland And yes of course it's this bs PC related. When reading comments on online British press reports, you know the ethnicity of the perpetrators of certain criminal acts, but aren't allowed to comment on it. 'This comment has been removed as it does not conform with our guidelines'. Yeah, okay.

Whew! As an Aussie I am so glad that the British press were not allowed to mention Rolf Harris' origins. (Although my aboriginal mates reckon that a mere 200 years doesn't stop a Brit being a Brit, so which country does he really belong to???).

PS I presume Jimmy Saville was also Pakistani? Along with Ralph Bonner Pink, MP (sexually abused his daughter).

There is a list of dozens of MPs and political figures who have been convicted of a variety of sex abuse charges, including torture of young children. (http://conspiracytruths.co.uk/mpscovictedofsexoffense.html) Strangely, they all have Anglo-Saxon sounding names. Must have changed them on arrival in the UK from whatever Muslim / Arab / African / Asian den of iniquity from which they really came.

CBR250 I think it may have something to do with the Fact that these animals were targeting non Muslim children,if they had targeted young Muslim girls that would have also been very bad, but they din't, that's the point, and many officials knew of this abuse, but for fear of being classified as racialist and Islamophobic kept quite, thus enabling these animals to go on and abuse over 1400 young children. At the same time the local Muslim community rallied together and with the exception of a few, kept very quite.So far not one of the Mullah's at the local Mosques have spoken about, let alone condemned these animal.

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