Likely ban on e-cigarettes, Baraku supported

[Lite Beer]

Likely ban on e-cigarettes, Baraku supported

BANGKOK: -- Thailand's anti-smoking movement supported the Commerce Ministry's plan to ban the imports of electronic cigarettes and Baraku.

Prakit Wathisathokkit, secretary-general of the Action on Smoking and Health Foundation Thailand, said in a statement that both products cause greater health and economic problems.

He noted that there are mixed researches on the benefits of e-cigarettes. Yet, the fact that some giant cigarette makers are producing the e-cigarettes showed their long-term dream to create a new addictive product.

A recent British study found that smokers were about 60 per cent more likely to stop smoking if they used e-cigarettes. Yet, other studies have found those who switched to e-cigarettes were less likely or no more likely to quit than if they used a patch or gum.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Likely-ban-on-e-cigarettes-Baraku-supported-30242561.html

-- The Nation 2014-09-04

[ukrules]

Interesting, perhaps I should stop using my electronic cigarette and go back to the Marlboro.

It's one or the other and the e-cigarettes appear to be harmless.

Edited September 4, 2014 by ukrules

[WitawatWatawit]

^^^ Ditto, I'll go back to Marlboro Lights as they are healthier for you than Red.

[robblok]

The whole e cig thing seems to be a tax thing because most research show it to be more healthy as normal smoking.

[FangFerang]

How dare anyone find a cheap way to enjoy tobacco without the much higher health risks (and more importantly)THE TAXES?

Why, this could cause a cultural; meltdown.

[BigBadGeordie]

I have the good fortune to live in Issan and 3 times a week I can go to Cambodia, via the crossing in Ban Kruat and purchase 200 Texas 5 for the vast sum of 95 Baht. I hasten to add I do not go 3 times a week 200 are enough for me, also no passport control, viss issues etc. And the Scotch is much cheaper also.

[phuketrichard]

i would be interested in knowing how u get into Cambodia ( an out an back into Thailand) wihtout going thru passport control?

[YTP]

How dare anyone find a cheap way to enjoy tobacco without the much higher health risks (and more importantly)THE TAXES?

[dcutman]

The tobacco monopoly feeling threatened and really wish to keep a monopoly on smoking?

[DrTuner]

What else would an anti-smoking movement do but support bans ? These creatures live to put bans on every imaginable thing.

Good luck BTW. The components of e-cigs are basic electronics and some metal parts, the juices made from readily available components used in food. Nicotine is the only component that can't be bought off the shelf.

Edited September 4, 2014 by DrTuner

[BigBadGeordie]

i would be interested in knowing how u get into Cambodia ( an out an back into Thailand) wihtout going thru passport control?

The informal crossing is managed by Rangers on both sides, there is no passport control, hand ID in on the Thai side, if alone a Thai driving licence will surfice, or your partners ID Card, but there is a "Customs" check, 200 cigs, 4 cans of beer (I normally buy Black Panther or Ankor) and 1 litre of spirits.

There is a relatively large market on the Cambodian side, not much on the Thai side. Drive there, foot traffic only accross the border. Everyone in Buriram knows/uses it.

Would you like GPS for it?

[thinman]

Very short sighted decision. My dentist and Dr. can both vouch for increased health since only using e-cig as nicotine replacement. E-cigarettes are an excellent product for eliminating the ill health effects of smoking Marlboro or any brand of cigarettes imho..

[rebeli]

Likely ban on e-cigarettes, Baraku supported

Prakit Wathisathokkit, secretary-general of the Action on Smoking and Health Foundation Thailand, said in a statement that both products cause greater health and economic problems.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Likely-ban-on-e-cigarettes-Baraku-supported-30242561.html

-- The Nation 2014-09-04

It's not about health it's about taxes.

The more smokers shift from sigarets to e-sigarets the less taxes will go to the government.

So let the smokers smoke sigarets because it's good for the tax revenue.

[ukrules]

Very short sighted decision. My dentist and Dr. can both vouch for increased health since only using e-cig as nicotine replacement. E-cigarettes are an excellent product for eliminating the ill health effects of smoking Marlboro or any brand of cigarettes imho..

Yeah, they're going to be exposed as real idiots (with massive loss of face) when the number of recorded lung cancer cases decreases massively in every country around the world where these e-cigarettes are widely available.

We now have governments fighting to preserve the taxation income from tobacco products - they want people to continue smoking and not stop.

I don't think anybody ever believed the increasingly huge amounts of duty and sales taxes levied on tobacco products by governments ever had anything to do with protecting public health, that's the least of their concerns. Governments around the world are now taking active steps to keep people smoking and prevent them from using the new harmless substitute.

E-cigarettes are a smoking replacement but there's no tax replacement for the governments.

There's some interesting information here : http://www.ecigarette-politics.com/electronic-cigarettes-global-legal-status.html

[Eddy B]

This statement "economic problems" is what it's all about! Economic problems for the consumer or economic problems for the government who can not fill their pockets through taxes!! I have an e-cig and I still buy normal cigs as well depending on my moods. These guys just don't know when to stop taxing anything. Next they will have people coming around taxing peoples lung capacity, stating that they are breathing too much oxygen! Complete Morons!!

Edited September 4, 2014 by Eddy B

[sscsamui]

How about a Ban on Cigarettes.. Much worse health wise and smell a lot worse...

[MAJIC]

Although E-Cigarettes have done the trick for me,and I am now a non smoker,many others who have switched from tobacco products,do not understand where E-Cigarettes fit into the weaning off process of becoming a non smoker. Basically start off E-Cigs at a high level,say 25mg smoke at this strength for a few weeks and then reduce the E-Cigs to 20mg...15mg.... 10mg and finally 6mg which the nicotine content will feel like smoking fresh air,this is the time you are getting the last of the nicotine poison out of your system,and your reliance on nicotine is very low! To reiterate E-Cigarettes are only a means to an end,and not a replacement for Cigartte products! in the end we all have to bite the bullet,and finish with E-Cigarettes loaded with nicotine,which finishing with nicotine is the ultimate objective!

Always remember Nicotine is not your friend!

http://www.nicotinevictims.com/poison.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

Edited September 4, 2014 by MAJIC

[MAJIC]

What else would an anti-smoking movement do but support bans ? These creatures live to put bans on every imaginable thing.

Good luck BTW. The components of e-cigs are basic electronics and some metal parts, the juices made from readily available components used in food. Nicotine is the only component that can't be bought off the shelf.

"Nicotine is the only component that can't be bought off the shelf."

The same with all dangerous controlled products!

[rametindallas]

As a former smoker, I find cigarette smoke obnoxious (because it sometimes make me want one), but I have a friend who smokes e-cigs and I never smell a thing as he satisfies his craving. Some people just want to control what other people do, even they have to use the excuse they are only concerned for your health. I abhor control freaks.

Every time the government bans something the public wants, they create a new criminal network to satisfy that need and, in the process, criminalize another segment of the population. All governments are control/power hungry.

[bapoboy]

asias nanny state haha

[wangsuda]

How dare anyone find a cheap way to enjoy tobacco without the much higher health risks (and more importantly)THE TAXES?

Why, this could cause a cultural; meltdown.

There is no tobacco in a personal vaporizer (or e-cigarette). The liquid used in a personal vaporizer is made of propylene glycol (PG) and/or vegetable glycerin (VG), flavoring, and nicotine can be optionally added.

[Thai at Heart]

What else would an anti-smoking movement do but support bans ? These creatures live to put bans on every imaginable thing.

Good luck BTW. The components of e-cigs are basic electronics and some metal parts, the juices made from readily available components used in food. Nicotine is the only component that can't be bought off the shelf.

"Nicotine is the only component that can't be bought off the shelf."

The same with all dangerous controlled products!

Just go buy some tobacco in the market and distill out the oils

[phuketrichard]

i would be interested in knowing how u get into Cambodia ( an out an back into Thailand) wihtout going thru passport control?

The informal crossing is managed by Rangers on both sides, there is no passport control, hand ID in on the Thai side, if alone a Thai driving licence will surfice, or your partners ID Card, but there is a "Customs" check, 200 cigs, 4 cans of beer (I normally buy Black Panther or Ankor) and 1 litre of spirits.

There is a relatively large market on the Cambodian side, not much on the Thai side. Drive there, foot traffic only accross the border. Everyone in Buriram knows/uses it.

Would you like GPS for it?

cool, so its not an official crossing. just for thais shopping? thats a change, usually its the other way around :-)

[StreetCowboy]

 

The whole e cig thing seems to be a tax thing because most research show it to be more healthy as normal smoking.

 

It's certainly healthier for me, as a passive smoker

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[daveAustin]

The whole e cig thing seems to be a tax thing because most research show it to be more healthy as normal smoking.

Or, one is less healthy than the other

[jacko45k]

Interesting, perhaps I should stop using my electronic cigarette and go back to the Marlboro.

It's one or the other and the e-cigarettes appear to be harmless.

Exactly... quite stupid isn't it.

At last there was an acceptable replacement, and I as a non-smoker need not be subjected to second hand smoke.

So now they want to ban them and guess what, regular cigarettes will be back in my face!

[Kabula]

Most smokers are inconsiderate.

Even with the E cigs!

This week I was dinning in a fine restaurant and two men were puffing on their E cigs and the smoke was so annoying I had to move the plates and glasses to another table.

In view of the foregoing, I'm in favor of a ban on E cigs.

I see idiots stomping out lite cigarettes on hard wood floors in restaurants where they should not even be smoking.

The streets and sidewalks are littered with them.

If you smoke, be considerate.

Edited September 5, 2014 by Kabula

[ukrules]

Meanwhile educated people speak about the same issue elsewhere : http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29061169

[WitawatWatawit]

The whole e cig thing seems to be a tax thing because most research show it to be more healthy as normal smoking.

Or, one is less healthy than the other

Always an important point, and one which makes us ecig users favour some form of regulation. Buying our liquid under the counter is going to involve some risks - it would be nice if it didn't. Just FYI, one bottle of liquid I have is made in Hong Kong by Ritchy Group Ltd. The ingredients are listed thus - propylene glycol, glycerol, water, Italian flavours (?). Other bottles I havr bought contain no info at all, so a bit dodgy.

Every now and then I get a craving for a cigarette. Don't know if it's nicotine related or just a hangover from years of lighting up. But one puff on the ecig (no nic) and all is well in my world . A pox on those who would deny me this.

[Tim207]

many others who have switched from tobacco products,do not understand where E-Cigarettes fit into the weaning off process of becoming a non smoker.

To reiterate E-Cigarettes are only a means to an end,and not a replacement for Cigartte products! in the end we all have to bite the bullet,and finish with E-Cigarettes loaded with nicotine,which finishing with nicotine is the ultimate objective!

Nice of you to decide for me and everyone else why we are using e-cigs.

I am afraid it is you who does not understand. Not everyone who uses e-cigs are using them as a means to quit nicotine. We don't all have to "bite the bullet" as you say, nor is finishing with nicotine everyone's "ultimate objective".

I have no desire to quit nor have I ever had a desire to quit. A friend is a distributor and he gave me some samples he had left over. I liked it. I have not smoked tobacco in over four months aside from a few cigars, not because I want to quit but because I prefer the e-cigs. As an added bonus I don't smell like smoke, and the health risks are much lower.