PHUKET NEWS TV: Russian Comments 'Revolting'

[fasteddie]

You guys need to get a room together in a condo full of Russians. After a couple of weeks youll be singing a new tune

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Or a condo full of Brits, or a condo full of Aussies, or a condo full of Germans, or a condo full of yanks, or a condo full of Thais,

They're no better or worse than any others.

[BangrakBob]

Please don't describe them as wealthy russians , most of them are on low salaries back in Russia , but for the first time they can afford to travel out of their cold country . They pay only $300 to get here from siberia . And they live on a budget , not everyone , but maybe 80% . But they come as a family and they are happy together so nothing wrong with that . Maybe they dont like other foreigners and thats fine too.

Siberia can be quite pleasant in Summer, mid-30's

[TacoHell]

click click click on the facebook replies here https://www.facebook.com/thephuketnews you can see all the <deleted> comments and choose not to do business with these people.

[TacoHell]

your expert

More like who here that lives here hasn't had a problem with Russians I wonder anyone. They are rude impolite and run out on there bills bring whisky to licenced bars and solve every problem by wanting to fight so in soming up they are just a wonderful group of people who use more then their fare share of precious oxygen

See more on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/keith.kenny.98?fref=ufi

[TacoHell]

more gems from keith

[TacoHell]

Complain about Russians? Bogan express

[balo]

Maybe time for the mod to clean this thread.

[Somtamnication]

You guys need to get a room together in a condo full of Russians. After a couple of weeks youll be singing a new tune

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Yes, this one!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

[watso63]

Not keen on them myself, but no worse than the dreggs of the UK that infest Spain and the Greek Islands. Just be thankful Thailand is too far and too expensive for stag and hen parties!

[chooka]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

Hi, your post history http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/user/171451-lattrendi/

Thank you for pointing out you are a Racist.

ah the old racist card, wins every argument. If someone has a different opinion then slap the racist card on the table.

[CiaranO]

Complain about Russians? Bogan express

Your brave guy their. I wonder how tough you would be if these guys were standing in front you.

[eezergood]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

Hi, your post history http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/user/171451-lattrendi/

Thank you for pointing out you are a Racist.

ah the old racist card, wins every argument. If someone has a different opinion then slap the racist card on the table.

Exactly - everyone is entitle to an opinion

[wedders]

Thailand is for the most part a budget destination for Russian tourists. As such they mostly frequent the low-end restauramts and bars catering almost exclusively for Russians, and rarely spend money elsewhere. If their holidays aren't full-board, they 'top up' in 7-11s inbetween.

A recent example - I watched a family who had bought snacks and beer at the 7-11, take seats at the McDonalds in Walking Street, in order to watch the live music at Utopia across the street. Hardly ideal for businesses around town. Mostly only those hotels willing to fill beds at the lowest price during slow periods, and 7-11s benefit.

But of course this doesn't mean all Russians are like this. I lived in the French Alps before, and the luxury ski resort Arcs 1950 was often full of well-off Russians. You can't judge a people by their representatives in Phuket or Pattaya any more than you could judge the Brits by those on holiday in Marbella a few years ago.

As a general rule though most Ryssians are not appreciated to the same extent as some nationalities in Thailand simply because they don't spend as much, keep themselves to themselves, use Russian tour buses whenever possible. There are always exceotions to the rule and in Jomtien for example where I love there is a sauna that has some great Russian customers and the only people that fall out with them are the Ukranians

[doggie888888]

Oh brother, not another white man hates Russian, Indian, Chinese, Thai, etc thread.

Personally, would love to see Thailand without any whingeing westerners.

[Jingthing]

Oh brother, not another white man hates Russian, Indian, Chinese, Thai, etc thread.

Personally, would love to see Thailand without any whingeing westerners.

White man? You mean Russkies?

Edited September 6, 2014 by Jingthing

[fiddlehead]

I traveled across Russia 20 years ago.
People were friendly.
I have some Russian friends here. Granted they don't smile much, but are nice.
I think they just have to know you but opening up a bit.

The western media loves to mark them as bad, mainly due to politics and should be taken with a grain of salt.
I would question that media more than the honesty of Russian people.

I was mostly led to believe that they were dirt poor, not very educated, living in a frozen hell.
Found out mostly the opposite is true (although it was cold in December), so, must wonder why they paint them so evil.

Don't fall for the brainwashing, and go meet some personally.

Your views might change.

[Rykbanlor]

All generalisations are false. Including this one.

Indeed I know I'm speaking for every member of Thai visa when I say that generalisations are frowned upon.

[NamKangMan]

If the Russians are so heavily represented on Phuket, how come we do not read about them as regularly in the news for being locked up for crime, as we do as other nationalities?

Whilst they may not be very "approachable" people, it appears, in general, they stay out of trouble here a lot more than nationalities, which, in my opinion, doesn't make them too bad.

[watso63]

All generalisations are false. Including this one.

Indeed I know I'm speaking for every member of Thai visa when I say that generalisations are frowned upon.

5555

[stevenl]

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If you own a business here, especially a higher end business, everyone will agree that Russian tourism has been a godsend.

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So, to the Russians coming here, please ignore the comments of the ignorant.

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Sorry, but no and no.

[laurentbkk]

The Russian bashing didnt start yesterday on Thaivisa.com , I have pointed it so many time ... I have been 23 times to Russia in the last decade for work , for fun and you cannot judge Russian on the few hundred thousand coming to Thailand on holidays. Every countries have their good and bad people .... I prefer to see a Russian family on holidays in pattaya than a few drunk brits shouting around. Judging others by only looking at them is very stupid , Russians have communication problems because of their very poor english skills so what ? There are no laws which say you have to learn english and dont travel if you cannot communicate in that language. All this bashing coming from farang living in Thailand is totally disgraceful , just remember where you are from and who you are in Thailand ... just a guest like all of us. I dont pretend to know Russian well but most probably better than the big majority here ...I forgot to mention I speak Russian also and always found them very nice if you take time to know them. Such arrogance from foreigners is useless .

[MobileContent]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

Do you think Obama and Cameron are any better then Putin? I have nothing against Russians. Now lets guess the same people that complain about the Russians surely complain also about the Chinese and who knows tomorrow they blame the Thai's.

[stevenl]

I have been 23 times to Russia in the last decade for work , for fun and you cannot judge Russian on the few hundred thousand coming to Thailand on holidays

Very true.

The comments about Russians have nothing to do with Russians in general, but with the Russians coming to Thai;land on holidays.

[fabphil]

So when i buy my beer at 7-11 im a cheapskate but when the ruskies do it theyre wealthy....der your taliking a lot of crap...

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

What's the "very good reason" ? Please explain

The "very good reason" is that the Russians are better than them in every way and so they hate them out of petty jealousy. These people are from the West, How dare people from the East turn up with better looks and more money. It's just not right that others have more money than them. It felt great having a little bit more money that the poor Thais they hang around, but now the wealthy Russians have spoilt everything. The Russians have shown them to be the cheapskates that they really are. It is so funny seeing them get their comeuppance.

Edited September 6, 2014 by fabphil

[Docno]

Actually i always wondered why the russians were so disliked by other eastern european folks even to the point they fear being mistaken for their russian cousins.

Maybe a reading of European history of the past, say, 80 years would provide some insights. Though, one need only follow the news of the past 8 months to get an inkling...

[wedders]

If you own a business here, especially a higher end business, everyone will agree that Russian tourism has been a godsend.

So, to the Russians coming here, please ignore the comments of the ignorant.

Sorry, but no and no.

Yes there are a few well-off Russians who benefit certain high-end outlets but I have met very few Farang or Thai owners of businesses particularly of bars, restaurants or shops that get much income from this source. Yes some massage places do, although the Russians have a reputation for being miserly tippers with the girls.

I think the problem is more that while the traditional source of income for bars/restaurants/gogos etc is disappearing as Westerners either are coming both in fewer numbers and with less money in their pockets, they are not being replaced by the Chinese/Russians/Indians etc who just have different priorities on holiday, keep themselves to themselves, enjoy trips organised by their own people to zoos/shows etc... the latter types of business rake it in even if they give big discounts to Thailand's new tourists.

[wedders]

So when i buy my beer at 7-11 im a cheapskate but when the ruskies do it theyre wealthy....der your taliking a lot of crap...

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

What's the "very good reason" ? Please explain

The "very good reason" is that the Russians are better than them in every way and so they hate them out of petty jealousy. These people are from the West, How dare people from the East turn up with better looks and more money. It's just not right that others have more money than them. It felt great having a little bit more money that the poor Thais they hang around, but now the wealthy Russians have spoilt everything. The Russians have shown them to be the cheapskates that they really are. It is so funny seeing them get their comeuppance.

It's more that if we buy a beer at a 7, most of us will also go for a beer in the bars occasionally. The Russians rarely do - go to the likes of Cosy Beach between Pattaya and Jomtien, almost exclusively populated by Russians these days, and talk to one of the few remaining bar/restaurant owners - such as Richard of the Wishing Well who has been there for 25 years. He will explain the difference between Russian and other Western visitors along those lines. He gets a few Russians in for a bite to eat, but it's pretty rare.

[Docno]

Terrible 'news' piece. The journalist goes on and on comments read off Facebook to make his point--was it necessary to repeat some of them several times?-- and I personally didn't find most of the comments all that 'revolting' compared to what is often said about other groups.

That said, this 'news' really shouldn't come as a surprise. Russian tourists often don't behave very well, and Russia itself has been acting poorly on the international stage (largely with the support of its people), and this will have an impact on the image of individual Russians.

But also see the results of this global survey taken before the current crisis in the Ukraine: http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/03/global-opinion-of-russia-mixed/ The Russians weren't very popular internationally back before they became daily news fodder; much less popular than Americans even. :-) They're very unpopular in western Europe (except for Britain and Greece), the Middle East (where their government stood against the Arab Spring), and in several places in Asia. Much of this likely reflects political events, but reactions to those events bleeds into our attitudes toward the people. And it's only gotten worse since then...

[laurentbkk]

I have been 23 times to Russia in the last decade for work , for fun and you cannot judge Russian on the few hundred thousand coming to Thailand on holidays

Very true.

The comments about Russians have nothing to do with Russians in general, but with the Russians coming to Thai;land on holidays.

so you mean ALL russian coming to Thailand are bad ? Well I have seen a lot here and found them much better than many other nationalities.

[LivinginKata]

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