belg Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 " insufficient water for consumption" ... that is why everybody is used of drinking alcohol ? and "Grand travel events planned for Ko Tao after murder case solved" so a big party planned to make everybody believes it never happend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 This is absolutely disgusting and reflects directly as too the mentality of this nation. Two foreign tourist were assaulted and brutally murdered on this island and their main concern is tourist perceptions and protection of revenue; simply sweeping under the carpet a real and recurrent problem in Thai society with regard to violence and general lawlessness. Owing to the inept manner by which this a several other incidents have been dealt with I think that Embassy's should put out a travel alert to their respective nationals that you come to Thailand at your own risk as there is a complete failure in the police and judicial system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 This is absolutely disgusting and reflects directly as too the mentality of this nation. Two foreign tourist were assaulted and brutally murdered on this island and their main concern is tourist perceptions and protection of revenue; simply sweeping under the carpet a real and recurrent problem in Thai society with regard to violence and general lawlessness. Owing to the inept manner by which this a several other incidents have been dealt with I think that Embassy's should put out a travel alert to their respective nationals that you come to Thailand at your own risk as there is a complete failure in the police and judicial system. "put out a travel alert", the British have. More people should read it. http://gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj005 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I just saw the pictures from the murder scene. Repulsive. This was a savage attack. Edited September 29, 2014 by benj005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwisailor Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 20 mins ago, Phuket News posted a headline "Koh Tao tourism tumbles" Result: Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.thephuketnews.com. Hmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phanangpete Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The island of death, party revellers do not want to go there now, if they travel first to one of the other islands they are being advised not to go . Koh Tao has had its day, so they may all start looking for new jobs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 20 mins ago, Phuket News posted a headline "Koh Tao tourism tumbles" Result: Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.thephuketnews.com. Hmmm Odd. I`m in a different country and using google. Phuket News will not load. Prob just iffy i/net connections or a tech glitch at thephuketnews end? Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 A post has been removed, Please do not attempt to Lobby forum members in this manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 This is sort of like if the japanese government tourism dept organized gala events and a carnival in fukushima to attract business-tourism sunbathers and swimmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Paraphrasing Morrissey..."Thailand....so much to answer for".Not everything in Thailand is negative Well, it comes to a point where balancing balancing the good and the bad becomes difficult. As a family man with growing kids, I am over the moon I got them out of the place for dozens of reasons. So tell me, what are the positives? I don't even miss the 40c 95% humidity or the scowls from the caddies on the golf course because I take a cart. You see, once you open your eyes somewhere ,its very hard to close them again. So what are the positives? Weather? Infrastructure? Beaches? Cost of living? Acccomkdation? Safety? Health care? What makes Thailand stand out anymore? Not much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Corrigan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The best thing that can happen to the Thai's of this Island,even IF the case is solved, which is highly unlikely, would be a warning from the British Embassy about the dangers in travelling there.As a matter of fact there should be a general travel warning for the whole of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razer Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Activities WILL NOT BOOST CONFIDENCE of tourists. Just arrest the murderers. That would be a damn good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 A couple of things immediately spring to my mind; "Minister of Tourism and Sports Kobkarn Wattanawarangkun has traveled to Ko Tao island in Surat Thani province to follow up on the progress of the murder of two British tourists" Is she a detective too? I think she means following up to see how she can put some kind of positive spin on the murders and total incompetence of the police and get a backhander from the locals that are being protected by the same police. But this is the gem "The minister said she would arrange activities to boost confidence among tourists after the case was closed." Anybody got a clue what activities she could possibly arrange to boost confidence of tourists? A coffee morning? Whist drive? What a heartless clueless halfwit. My thoughts are with the family, how must they feel when they read stuff like this? If it was me I'd be thinking Thailand has no interest in finding the murderers they're only interested in sweeping it under the table 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The best thing that can happen to the Thai's of this Island,even IF the case is solved, which is highly unlikely, would be a warning from the British Embassy about the dangers in travelling there.As a matter of fact there should be a general travel warning for the whole of Thailand. There is. More people should read it. http://gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 We will never understand thai, thai will never understand farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 We will never understand thai, thai will never understand farang. I beg to differ. Farangs are rapidly starting to work Thais out and they don't really like what they see sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I just saw the pictures from the murder scene. Repulsive. This was a savage attack. Then why on earth did you look? Quite a few posters comment on these photos. Have they been widely circulated or did you search for them? Same mentality as the rubber-neckers at crashes. So shocking but they just have too look and then comment how bad it was. Something very wrong with some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisF Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I just saw the pictures from the murder scene. Repulsive. This was a savage attack. Then why on earth did you look? Quite a few posters comment on these photos. Have they been widely circulated or did you search for them? Same mentality as the rubber-neckers at crashes. So shocking but they just have too look and then comment how bad it was. Something very wrong with some people. I agree but, in fairness, these photos were indeed widely circulated, i got them in an unsolicited email. Disgusting tactic, imho, sending these out like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip66 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Meanwhile the locals are openly mocking this savage double murder / rape. It's all just a joke to them. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/401913/Holiday-Brit-murders-mocked-Thai-social-media-police-investigation Before you hit the Enter button to post your stupid unfounded remarks, try reading the whole article that the Daily Star printed, it actually says that the local's on Ko Tao are mocking the police investigation, not the actual murders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Grand travel events planned for Ko Tao after murder case solved All in the best possible taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisF Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Meanwhile the locals are openly mocking this savage double murder / rape. It's all just a joke to them. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/401913/Holiday-Brit-murders-mocked-Thai-social-media-police-investigation Before you hit the Enter button to post your stupid unfounded remarks, try reading the whole article that the Daily Star printed, it actually says that the local's on Ko Tao are mocking the police investigation, not the actual murders Whatever the words in the article, the photos are in very poor taste and indeed do insult the memories of the couple. To say the locals are mocking the police may well be correct but, they have a very strange and insensitive way of doing so, using murdered people as the tool of derision. Attacking and insulting another poster because he understands the article of a sensationalist tabloid rag in a different way to you is petty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I just saw the pictures from the murder scene. Repulsive. This was a savage attack. Then why on earth did you look? Quite a few posters comment on these photos. Have they been widely circulated or did you search for them? Same mentality as the rubber-neckers at crashes. So shocking but they just have too look and then comment how bad it was. Something very wrong with some people. I agree but, in fairness, these photos were indeed widely circulated, i got them in an unsolicited email. Disgusting tactic, imho, sending these out like that. Presumably the email was from someone you know? If yes, then I trust you gave them some suitable advice. If the email was not from someone you know, then it's very risky opening a link. Sorry but not sure exactly what you meant by "unsolicited". Apart from someone forwarding you the link like what happened to you, then I don't these these photos are widely circulated, unless you go looking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Corrigan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The best thing that can happen to the Thai's of this Island,even IF the case is solved, which is highly unlikely, would be a warning from the British Embassy about the dangers in travelling there.As a matter of fact there should be a general travel warning for the whole of Thailand. There is. More people should read it. http://gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand Thanks for that information Good reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisF Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I just saw the pictures from the murder scene. Repulsive. This was a savage attack. Then why on earth did you look? Quite a few posters comment on these photos. Have they been widely circulated or did you search for them? Same mentality as the rubber-neckers at crashes. So shocking but they just have too look and then comment how bad it was. Something very wrong with some people. I agree but, in fairness, these photos were indeed widely circulated, i got them in an unsolicited email. Disgusting tactic, imho, sending these out like that. Presumably the email was from someone you know? If yes, then I trust you gave them some suitable advice. If the email was not from someone you know, then it's very risky opening a link. Sorry but not sure exactly what you meant by "unsolicited". Apart from someone forwarding you the link like what happened to you, then I don't these these photos are widely circulated, unless you go looking for them. I got the photos in the email, not a link, attachments. By unsolicited I mean it appeared to be from a spam email address. Sent a rply message with a few expletives but no reply. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traviss Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Everyone ...please write to the travel wbsites..Tripadvisor etc...and voice your concerns..spread the word as much as possible....This latest story makes me sick...The Minister is worried about boosting tourist confidence for this island?...are you serious?....Only in Thailand! Tripadvisor will not publish negative reviews/comments concerning safety on Koh Tao or not for long. They will be removed and/or replaced 6:1 with positive reviews or the topic will be closed. Wonder why? Check it out, but still worth a try. http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g303910-i9415-k7811834-o30-Should_we_still_go-Ko_Tao_Surat_Thani_Province.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windbreaker Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Indeed. let's just rock out some bigwigs because that will make it all fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyumchai Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 last night i farcebooked 'koh tao' as i was curious to see what was being written by people right there on the island. all i found was lots of rooms for rent and items for sale, mostly written by non thais. it seemed as if nothing had happened on the island, just normal everyday chitchat right across the murder timeline. the other thing that i saw was dozens of requests for rooms from the date of the incident right the way to next year. either we are the only ones who seem to be outraged by what happened there or everyone else just doesnt care about what happened there. i certainly will not be setting foot on that place EVER after what happened however from what i read last night it doesnt look as if its stopped anyone else from trying to go there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traviss Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Everyone ...please write to the travel wbsites..Tripadvisor etc...and voice your concerns..spread the word as much as possible....This latest story makes me sick...The Minister is worried about boosting tourist confidence for this island?...are you serious?....Only in Thailand! Tripadvisor will not publish negative reviews/comments concerning safety on Koh Tao or not for long. They will be removed and/or replaced 6:1 with positive reviews or the topic will be closed. Wonder why? Check it out, but still worth a try. http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g303910-i9415-k7811834-o30-Should_we_still_go-Ko_Tao_Surat_Thani_Province.html Just identified a new Trip Advisor thread "Is Koh Tao Open" I will also post this on the other, more active Koh Tao threads here on TV. Many, TV members that have posted on the relevant Koh Tao murder threads have claimed the need to warn and educate the uninformed tourist of potential or realized safety concerns of/on the island. It is a need, same as any other destination. I could care less if the island economy is booming or in decline. However, I am curious to see if any one here takes two minutes to sign up, sign in, and post there reviews on the relevant Trip Advisor thread. Should be interesting...Should also be interesting to see how quickly Trip Advisor closes the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matman Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The Ministers wording was 'Closed' not 'Solved' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Everyone ...please write to the travel wbsites..Tripadvisor etc...and voice your concerns..spread the word as much as possible....This latest story makes me sick...The Minister is worried about boosting tourist confidence for this island?...are you serious?....Only in Thailand! Tripadvisor will not publish negative reviews/comments concerning safety on Koh Tao or not for long. They will be removed and/or replaced 6:1 with positive reviews or the topic will be closed. Wonder why? Check it out, but still worth a try. http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g303910-i9415-k7811834-o30-Should_we_still_go-Ko_Tao_Surat_Thani_Province.html Just identified a new Trip Advisor thread "Is Koh Tao Open" I will also post this on the other, more active Koh Tao threads here on TV. Many, TV members that have posted on the relevant Koh Tao murder threads have claimed the need to warn and educate the uninformed tourist of potential or realized safety concerns of/on the island. It is a need, same as any other destination. I could care less if the island economy is booming or in decline. However, I am curious to see if any one here takes two minutes to sign up, sign in, and post there reviews on the relevant Trip Advisor thread. Should be interesting...Should also be interesting to see how quickly Trip Advisor closes the thread. Tripadvisor won`t let me into the existing thread you quote to post an answer. So I have posted a new, and I hope carefully worded, question/thread in their Ko Tao forum. Look for "Ko Tao safe to go?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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