David48 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 . If recent posts here on ThaiVisa are creditable, then there seems to be a conspiracy underway in Thailand. I read the other day of the mysterious case of the Father-in-Law never speaking with the Western Son-in-Law. Just now I was reading about the Sister-in-Law never speaking with the Western Man. So, I got to thinking ... who doesn't speak to me? The Hired Farm Help. Not only does he not speak with me, he doesn't even give me eye contact. Now ... could it be because I suffer from 'Men Peeoow'? I hope not ... Maybe you guys are also suffering from being neglected or rejected by someone near and dear? Maybe we can help? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted September 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2014 David, thank you for bringing this subject up. My problem is that in the past I used to speak to myself a lot, about everything and anything Nowadays, I don't even dare to say a word to myself, being afraid that I will be accused of being a troll. Everything I say, everything I write, somebody will come up and tell me I'm trolling. I've missed my conversations with myself in the past. Do you think there is any chance to be my old self? PS. Am I trolling now? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) ^ Nope you are not Trolling, but be careful because maybe your other self may get banned her on TV Edited September 28, 2014 by MJCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I think you will get more constructive answers in Pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhamBam Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) David, thank you for bringing this subject up. My problem is that in the past I used to speak to myself a lot, about everything and anything Nowadays, I don't even dare to say a word to myself, being afraid that I will be accused of being a troll. Everything I say, everything I write, somebody will come up and tell me I'm trolling. I've missed my conversations with myself in the past. Do you think there is any chance to be my old self? PS. Am I trolling now? Because you are not from Holland and speaking double dutch it may well be all Greek to some Better edit this to say I have nothing whatsoever against the Dutch Edited September 28, 2014 by WhamBam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 David he obviously thinks it is well above his station to speak to the Great Falung Landowner. Otherwise it may be because he doesn't want you to smell the Lao Khao on his breath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 It's the freaky unsettling part of the country we love..the unsettling sound of silence as we walk through life here and nobody looks, cares or comments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Perhaps ask yourself, do you really care and does it really matter - I have great banter with service staff around me but it took ten ears to get to this point.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdanielmcev Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Try being more of a schmendrick. Less people will talk to you. What's a schmendrick? He's the guy between a schmuck and a shmoe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I prefer the silence to the remarks and laughter just out of earshot. Just yesterday as I was walking out of the field I encountered a group of Thais loading a corn truck. "They are going to say something among themselves and then laugh while looking at me," I told myself. And they did, twice. But I am pretty far out in the sticks and expect the yokels to be this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Maybe you guys are also suffering from being neglected or rejected by someone near and dear? Maybe we can help? quite often my wife neglects me. but if i tell you she might kill me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navara Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Some Thai people are like this. They do not talk, they often don't listen to what you are telling. And if you persists they tell you that they thought you are talking in yourself. Most annoying! It is quite simple, kick them out and find a new help. I have several family members who are like this. They are only busy with themselves and have no interest what ever in other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 David, thank you for bringing this subject up. My problem is that in the past I used to speak to myself a lot, about everything and anything Nowadays, I don't even dare to say a word to myself, being afraid that I will be accused of being a troll. Everything I say, everything I write, somebody will come up and tell me I'm trolling. I've missed my conversations with myself in the past. Do you think there is any chance to be my old self? PS. Am I trolling now? Taking to one's self has never been a bad sign.....It's when you start answering yourself back that it's time to sit up and take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post USNret Posted September 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2014 Among all these "he/she/they won't talk to me stories" I keep thinking the same thing: Maybe they have nothing to say to you. I mean, what really do you have in common with farm workers, or gf's sister? All they can say is "How are you?" and then the conversation falters. It's a lot less painful to ignore you altogether. In some sense, it's the opposite of rudeness; they are trying to cause less social awkwardness. At least that's one theory. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Perhaps it is not in the job description. I used to stay far away from my boss because everytime I would chat with him, he would dump more work on me. Anyways...you guys take this way to personal. Even other farangs avoid eye contact and are silent to each other. It comes with the territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinmaew Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 No its not you, its someone else and I will give you one guess but you cant post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 There are rednecks in every country. Dont like em... Show them where the door is.... Bye Bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted September 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2014 Always a couple of ways to look at things. Reminds me of two guys talking and one says to the other, I'm seriously thinking about leaving my wife and maybe divorce, she hasn't spoken a single word to me for the past 5 or 6 months. Other guy thinks for a while and replies, Don't rush things, a woman like that is hard to find nowadays. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The first couple of years, my wife's mother would just laugh any time I spoke with her - - then I found out that she doesn't speak much Thai… just a combo of village and northern dialect… I have run into this w/others too… but that is the only time I have had people ignore me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalasubramanianPalaniapan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The problem is theirs. Not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 ....on topic.....with regards to a 'mae baan' that we had hired once...that I was paying for... ...she would never reply...or respond to me... ...after an argument with my wife, she finally declared, 'I told her not to'.... ...with a male farm employee...don't know if it could be the same case.......maybe it's the awkwardness....like 'worlds apart'..... ....maybe whoever hired him knows that in the long run.....'It's for the better'.....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 NO sweat - no problem - not your fault.....remember there's a multi level hierarchy here and he has you at your correct station......he murmurs to - talks to - cajoles - touches, and works with the buffalo - just not you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabula Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 He probably believes all the world main stream news! Everyone should be concerned how people worldwide react to what they see and hear with so much misinformation and mass confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Many reasons. Most common one is - they don't have anything to say, really. Other reasons are they don't enjoy talking with foreigners - those who don't speak English assume it will be difficult to communicate. Most have had experiences of not being able to communicate with farang and assume this will be another. Many times they look at a Farang approaching and just assume that anything coming out of this guys mouth will be impossible to understand. Also, we can seem rude to them. And frankly, many farang are rude whether they know it or not. Another issue is that culturally they are comfortable with ambiguity, and unclear situations and most foreigners are not. Hence the context for confrontation that is uncomfortable for them and often silence which is uncomfortable for foreigners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 David, thank you for bringing this subject up. My problem is that in the past I used to speak to myself a lot, about everything and anything Nowadays, I don't even dare to say a word to myself, being afraid that I will be accused of being a troll. Everything I say, everything I write, somebody will come up and tell me I'm trolling. I've missed my conversations with myself in the past. Do you think there is any chance to be my old self? PS. Am I trolling now? Most definitely a troll post Costas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 They have learnt from farang that farang do not respond to anyone. Even the hired help can see this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) So, I got to thinking ... who doesn't speak to me? The Hired Farm Help Possibly he's waiting until be has something worthwhile to say ... understandably not something easily understood by most Thai Visa members. The opposite problem is people, generally complete strangers, who insist on speaking especially, but not exclusively, when there are only two of you on a lift/elevator or, far worse, only two of you standing side-by-side tending to business in a public loo. In response in either location: "Yes, it is hot today. I have no additional information to share on that topic at the moment, but I'll be sure to get back to you. Can't this thing go any faster" Edited September 29, 2014 by Suradit69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Among all these "he/she/they won't talk to me stories" I keep thinking the same thing: Maybe they have nothing to say to you. I mean, what really do you have in common with farm workers, or gf's sister? All they can say is "How are you?" and then the conversation falters. It's a lot less painful to ignore you altogether. In some sense, it's the opposite of rudeness; they are trying to cause less social awkwardness. At least that's one theory. Yes, I believe this is the single most common underlying reason for this dynamic. They want to avoid awkwardness, and they expect farang to be awkward to deal with, so it is better to avoid it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Maybe you guys are also suffering from being neglected or rejected by someone near and dear? Maybe we can help? quite often my wife neglects me. but if i tell you she might kill me You too, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlaw Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Among all these "he/she/they won't talk to me stories" I keep thinking the same thing: Maybe they have nothing to say to you. I mean, what really do you have in common with farm workers, or gf's sister? All they can say is "How are you?" and then the conversation falters. It's a lot less painful to ignore you altogether. In some sense, it's the opposite of rudeness; they are trying to cause less social awkwardness. At least that's one theory. Yes, I believe this is the single most common underlying reason for this dynamic. They want to avoid awkwardness, and they expect farang to be awkward to deal with, so it is better to avoid it. Logical. You new here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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