Universal doubts cloud 'perfect' Koh Tao murder investigation

[lung]

---Porntip rips Koh Tao investigation---

Thailands most-respected forensics specialist

cast doubts on the police investigation into the

death of two British backpackers on Koh Tao

Thursday, saying investigators erred when they

neglected to involve a forensic pathologist.

bp

[MJP]

---Porntip rips Koh Tao investigation---

Thailands most-respected forensics specialist

cast doubts on the police investigation into the

death of two British backpackers on Koh Tao

Thursday, saying investigators erred when they

neglected to involve a forensic pathologist.

bp

No forensic pathologist?

What?

[Fred Flinstone]

Plummeting Sales to Thailand will only get worse as these scapegoats are ritually executed wrongfully , and the killers attack again.

Its just a Matter of time -

[sabaitoo]

• Sean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

  @hardy-hemmingway: I think he knew who it was and needed a scapegoat. It would have been enough for me to "hag myself" in order for them to point the finger at me. My sister directed me to a Thai forum from a week before this all happened which I didn't know about at the time. It said I would be framed and so would the guy living in the cave in Samui. So somebody knew about this before I did.

• Posted 1 hour ago1 hourSean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

  @thailand-people: I had that wound from the 9th. There are plenty of people who seen me with the cut every day in restaurants, bars and dive shops. When I left the message on his facebook a few days after (When Dave's name was released), I only meant that I knew the type of person he was. He was a great guy who would stand against wrong in any situation.

https://soundcloud.com/seanmcanna/johnny

He's talking about that post on the German forum, where someone said a Thai friend of theirs from Koh Tao heard he was going to be arrested or what ever.

I know this because I was the one who added his sister on facebook and told her about it, a couple of days after that night he posted on facebook. I've spoke to her since but she said Sean doesn't know anything, and I don't really want to keep pressing on her.

I know that post from the German forum, I posted it here....it was posted around the time he was chased by Mon & Friend....a few hours plus/minus depending on timezones.....so not a week before all this happened......

[Lancashireman]

Here's the non-suspect who fled the island the day after and has not provided a dna sample.

Mon sot.....

Taken from his fb page

who is this man and why you say it is involved? Just asking because I don't followed the case

This is Nomsod, or Dodo - The son of village headman Warot Tuvichien. The Thai webpage CSI LA has been working on this guy. I read Thai so I have been able to scour the site and I believe he was involved too.

His father claims he wasn't there, and they have CCTV footage in his uni in BKK to prove it, but the CCTV footage is after 9am the next day and previously the day before. A speedboat was seen leaving the Island early and its assumed he got out to a nearby airport (samui/surat/etc).

He is the one running on the CCTV footage with no shirt. I have looked at many differnet cross-comparisons of his gait, haircut etc and he seems to be the one.

Also Thai people from Koh Tao, too afraid to speak out have contacted this page to say he was there that night, and other students at his uni confirmed he wasnt in for class the following day and when he did return people noticed scratches on his neck and arms.

Him along with his uncle, the 'mafia guy' in Seans picture, and at the crime site (Mon Tuvichien) are both left handed as seen from pictures, which is consistent with the wounds to David's body. The 2 Burmese are both right handed, I noticed myself from videos and pictures.

Don't underestimate the connections of the Tuvichien family.

If anyone wants to know anymore details feel free to PM me.

Regards

Well if this is true everything changes , but it's only rumours, isnt it?

Can the UNI really confirm that he wasn't in class the day after the murders? And that he had scratches on his neck and arms?

Why can't someone just confront the University about this , should be very easy to clarify .

Until someone in charge at the UNI actually can verify this , it will continue to be just a rumour.

I'm going to the uni. myself to find-out more about this class-act of a guy...police are not going to follow-up, then I will. Enough is enough.

You are not serious surely?

How did it go if you were successfully able to approach a Thai national...

[arich666]

• Sean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

  @hardy-hemmingway: I think he knew who it was and needed a scapegoat. It would have been enough for me to "hag myself" in order for them to point the finger at me. My sister directed me to a Thai forum from a week before this all happened which I didn't know about at the time. It said I would be framed and so would the guy living in the cave in Samui. So somebody knew about this before I did.

• Posted 1 hour ago1 hourSean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

  @thailand-people: I had that wound from the 9th. There are plenty of people who seen me with the cut every day in restaurants, bars and dive shops. When I left the message on his facebook a few days after (When Dave's name was released), I only meant that I knew the type of person he was. He was a great guy who would stand against wrong in any situation.

https://soundcloud.com/seanmcanna/johnny

He's talking about that post on the German forum, where someone said a Thai friend of theirs from Koh Tao heard he was going to be arrested or what ever.

I know this because I was the one who added his sister on facebook and told her about it, a couple of days after that night he posted on facebook. I've spoke to her since but she said Sean doesn't know anything, and I don't really want to keep pressing on her.

I know that post from the German forum, I posted it here....it was posted around the time he was chased by Mon & Friend....a few hours plus/minus depending on timezones.....so not a week before all this happened......

It's definitely what he's referring to though, because what else could it be, it's exactly what the post on the German forum said, down to talking about the guy in the cave.

Maybe he just means his sister only showed him it a week or so ago, although I sent it to her about 3 days after the incident with him and Mon.

[Jiu-Jitsu]

If

Think you've gone a little off topic with your stereotypical comments there <deleted> face

Then don't quote their posts. It just keeps them alive.

[lannarebirth]

Umm have you not clicked the soundcloud link ?

Sean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

To everyone commenting. I never said I knew the killers. I said that if I died that night it was the guy from in touch who "did it". anybody with half a brain knows it would always be blamed on Burmese. I'm gutted for everyone involved, but there's really nothing I can do. I'm sorry the newspapers lied to you. Believe me, they lied about a lot of things. They just like a story.

scroll down to that time in the comments

https://soundcloud.com/seanmcanna/johnny

Clicked the link and saw his comment.

I dont believe it.

He is trying to capitalise by posting his music on a site that is dedicated to the victims.

He is a sick bunny.

Ya know, allegory, metaphor, analogy and symbolism are part of the songwriters toolbox.

[sabaitoo]

• Sean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

  @hardy-hemmingway: I think he knew who it was and needed a scapegoat. It would have been enough for me to "hag myself" in order for them to point the finger at me. My sister directed me to a Thai forum from a week before this all happened which I didn't know about at the time. It said I would be framed and so would the guy living in the cave in Samui. So somebody knew about this before I did.

• Posted 1 hour ago1 hourSean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

  @thailand-people: I had that wound from the 9th. There are plenty of people who seen me with the cut every day in restaurants, bars and dive shops. When I left the message on his facebook a few days after (When Dave's name was released), I only meant that I knew the type of person he was. He was a great guy who would stand against wrong in any situation.

https://soundcloud.com/seanmcanna/johnny

He's talking about that post on the German forum, where someone said a Thai friend of theirs from Koh Tao heard he was going to be arrested or what ever.

I know this because I was the one who added his sister on facebook and told her about it, a couple of days after that night he posted on facebook. I've spoke to her since but she said Sean doesn't know anything, and I don't really want to keep pressing on her.

I know that post from the German forum, I posted it here....it was posted around the time he was chased by Mon & Friend....a few hours plus/minus depending on timezones.....so not a week before all this happened......

It's definitely what he's referring to though, because what else could it be, it's exactly what the post on the German forum said, down to talking about the guy in the cave.

Maybe he just means his sister only showed him it a week or so ago, although I sent it to her about 3 days after the incident with him and Mon.

This is the translated message referred to...

21. September 2014, 22:39:28

Huhu ( Hey ) , a friend of mine who is living the last 10 year on Koh Tao ( he is Thai ) and work in the Bar Next Door ( Next2 ?) ..whatever

He has just written that the police has really caught the one in the cave and a Scot who is dependant on drugs and makes/plays music on that evening. Apparently someone should have seen him covered in blood that evening and remembered it today, because of that he was arrested today at 6 pm Thaitime His name should be Sean Mc Anna, he wanted to stay on Koh Tao for 6 months and had allready bought a motorbike, but wanted to sell it after the murders to get money

Very mysterious

[Rooo]

Posts containing derogatory,flaming,abusive remarks & other posts quoting them removed.

Members suspended, enough with this,show some respect, this sort of behavior not tolerated read FORUM RULES found here:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules

Thank You.

[DennisF]

Umm have you not clicked the soundcloud link ?

Sean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

To everyone commenting. I never said I knew the killers. I said that if I died that night it was the guy from in touch who "did it". anybody with half a brain knows it would always be blamed on Burmese. I'm gutted for everyone involved, but there's really nothing I can do. I'm sorry the newspapers lied to you. Believe me, they lied about a lot of things. They just like a story.

scroll down to that time in the comments

https://soundcloud.com/seanmcanna/johnny

Clicked the link and saw his comment.

I dont believe it.

He is trying to capitalise by posting his music on a site that is dedicated to the victims.

He is a sick bunny.

Ya know, allegory, metaphor, analogy and symbolism are part of the songwriters toolbox.

Yes, I am fully aware of that but a badly written and performed song promoting himself is not what is needed right now.

Speaking the truth directly would be more relevant.

Even something simple like.. who was on the island that night?

He CAN help if he wants to.

[SteveFong]

hang on a second.

Sean is a musician and a singer songwriter

He doesnt need an excuse to post music on the internet

He is sharing his soul when he does that, and, shouldnt be condemned for it

[englishoak]

You need to read this ....

http://1clicknews.com/thailand-beach-death-parents-convinced-son-murdered-and-his-killing-covered-up-to-protect-tourism/

this aint the first murder on KT this year

[DennisF]

hang on a second.

Sean is a musician and a singer songwriter

He doesnt need an excuse to post music on the internet

He is sharing his soul when he does that, and, shouldnt be condemned for it

I have no argument with that Steve and am not condemning him for sharing but, his friend was buiried last week and Hannah will be laid to rest today.

Posting on a website that is dedicated to finding their killers is insensitive to say the least.

Instead of sharing his soul perhaps he could answer a few direct questions?

At this present time he has not displayed anything other than self preservation and now, seemingly, promotion.

Cryptic lyrics are not what is needed, answers are.

No offence, I just think he is full of it.

Allegations are being made about him and he needs to address that issue at least, given his past criminal record.

[bigjules007]

This is going to end bad, the Koh Samui prison governor is saying that he fears that the 2 Burmese boys will commit suicide because they are guilt ridden over the crimes they committed! I feel sick!

[DennisF]

Latest UK papers links on the murders.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/11150569/Thai-murder-suspects-retract-confessions.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/09/thailand-backpacker-murders-suspects-confession-retract

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thailand-murders-amnesty-demands-inquiry-into-allegations-of-torture-of-suspects-9780876.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thailand-beach-death-parents-convinced-4410135

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thailand-beach-murders-suspects-withdraw-4410622

[ScotBkk]

You need to read this ....

http://1clicknews.com/thailand-beach-death-parents-convinced-son-murdered-and-his-killing-covered-up-to-protect-tourism/

this aint the first murder on KT this year

Oak,

Just read the report from your link.

It gets f&*%in worse by the minute. This Koh Tao is seemingly Murdergate Island. These mafia types are seemingly raping & killing tourists in whichever way they like. Then, having back-up from Police whenever anyone seeks out information.

Got a terrible ugly feeling this is going pear-shaped for these Burmese lads sitting in this Thai shit-hole prison. I pray I'm wrong about this. However, this is a third world country and we all know this is a very big problem for Thailand and seriously think they’re capable of anything. This Koh Tao place has to be shut down and full internal inquiry made. TIT needs to STOP glorifying this place and forget trying to coax people back with false information to up the figures. Thailand really is very naïve when it comes to Forensics, besides lying every other day with pathetic cover-ups being caught out so many times since it never makes sense. It makes one wonder where it will all end.

This country needs to come into the 21^st century Rapido if it wants to be able to ensure Tourists safety now and in the said future……. This is where money should be spent not on f%%$in wrist-bands and all the other BS…….

Edited October 10, 2014 by ScotBkk

[SteveFong]

hang on a second.

Sean is a musician and a singer songwriter

He doesnt need an excuse to post music on the internet

He is sharing his soul when he does that, and, shouldnt be condemned for it

I have no argument with that Steve and am not condemning him for sharing but, his friend was buiried last week and Hannah will be laid to rest today.

Posting on a website that is dedicated to finding their killers is insensitive to say the least.

Instead of sharing his soul perhaps he could answer a few direct questions?

At this present time he has not displayed anything other than self preservation and now, seemingly, promotion.

Cryptic lyrics are not what is needed, answers are.

No offence, I just think he is full of it.

Allegations are being made about him and he needs to address that issue at least, given his past criminal record.

ok, you make a few points, but,

I wasn't aware that he was posting on a thread dedicated to Hannah and David,

I thought it was his personal account on sound cloud?

And, about his past criminal record; this has been bothering me also, but not in the same way as others,

No one knows what that case was about, only the conviction,

and because he is young, and this was in his past,

who is to say he didnt have a picture of himself and two girls in a threesome and one of them was 17?

until it is brought to light about what exactly constituted "child porn" then, I am not buying this as a reason to denote his character.

I personally know people who have had their nightclubs shut down and fined because girls used fake ID

and, I was recently told a story whereby a man was with a "professional sex actress" who had a fake ID also, and he was sent to jail

The USA is currently using "downloaded illegal" porn files that people didnt even know they had on their computer, because they opened a spam email, which was sent by their political enemies

I don't doubt for a minute that Sean was involved with drug activity and even was the occasional or serial date rape drug rapist, as both he and some of his friends don't look like the type that like girls saying no to them,

but Sean doesnt have that look to me,

while, there are some others whose names and pictures have been posted all over the internet, do look like rapists

anyone that will rape will also kill

[Theforeigner]

You need to read this ....

http://1clicknews.com/thailand-beach-death-parents-convinced-son-murdered-and-his-killing-covered-up-to-protect-tourism/

this aint the first murder on KT this year

Please make sure that UK Ambassador to Thailand Mark Kent and the CSI LA facebook get this information !

Thanks in advance.

[Heng]

Som nam nar to the local BIB. Looks like some folks are in for a serious transfer of posts (with a merciless no coincidental transfer back to the same post in the future clause). Maybe even a loss of merit badges.

[boomerangutang]

Sean just remember the 2 canadian female backpackers you introduced to your Thai mates ?? If you don't talk to the right people they will ???????

If there are people with any info which could shed light on this case, they should speak up now. Even if it's info which would shed light on the character of some men who should be suspects (but who Thai cops conveniently eliminate from being witnesses because they're connected to the headman, or are cops, or....?).

Even if the Canadian women or whomever are out of the country, they should sign a notarized statement and have it mailed to their embassy in Bangkok, with the words; "Friend of Court info related to the Ko Tao double murder" written in bold on the front of the envelope.

It's likely that whatever men committed the heinous crime - also have a history of perpetrating violence - probably on that beach and/or connected to the AC bar. Anyone with possibly pertinent info should speak up now.

A note on the murder weapons: I and others have been mentioning the 'push-knife' theory as plausibly causing David's wounds. Upon further reflection, the sharp end of a broken bottle could have been the weapon - particularly if it had a prominent sharp piece sticking out. Afterwards, it's simple as pie to toss it out to the sea. Have investigators searched the seabed adjoining the crime scene? Answer: probably no more than they investigated many other areas/issues they should have looked at.

Also, have any of the suspects' bodies (including headman's friends, family) been inspected for bruises and cuts? Granted it's late now, and things heal, but it's likely any attacker would have bruises from a struggle, particularly hands/fingers. Sorry to mention this, but someone's dick may have been damaged by biting teeth. It's not uncommon in forced sex scenarios, and would explain why Hannah's murderer would resort to such barbarity.

Edited October 10, 2014 by boomerangutang

[Oziex1]

Umm have you not clicked the soundcloud link ?

Sean Hayes McAnna says at 0:01:

To everyone commenting. I never said I knew the killers. I said that if I died that night it was the guy from in touch who "did it". anybody with half a brain knows it would always be blamed on Burmese. I'm gutted for everyone involved, but there's really nothing I can do. I'm sorry the newspapers lied to you. Believe me, they lied about a lot of things. They just like a story.

scroll down to that time in the comments

https://soundcloud.com/seanmcanna/johnny

What on earth is that all about?

Thanking Sean for what?

Who are these people who thank him as though he is the Messiah, drug fkd descendants of the Manson family.

[DennisF]

hang on a second.

Sean is a musician and a singer songwriter

He doesnt need an excuse to post music on the internet

He is sharing his soul when he does that, and, shouldnt be condemned for it

I have no argument with that Steve and am not condemning him for sharing but, his friend was buiried last week and Hannah will be laid to rest today.

Posting on a website that is dedicated to finding their killers is insensitive to say the least.

Instead of sharing his soul perhaps he could answer a few direct questions?

At this present time he has not displayed anything other than self preservation and now, seemingly, promotion.

Cryptic lyrics are not what is needed, answers are.

No offence, I just think he is full of it.

Allegations are being made about him and he needs to address that issue at least, given his past criminal record.

ok, you make a few points, but,

I wasn't aware that he was posting on a thread dedicated to Hannah and David,

I thought it was his personal account on sound cloud?

And, about his past criminal record; this has been bothering me also, but not in the same way as others,

No one knows what that case was about, only the conviction,

and because he is young, and this was in his past,

who is to say he didnt have a picture of himself and two girls in a threesome and one of them was 17?

until it is brought to light about what exactly constituted "child porn" then, I am not buying this as a reason to denote his character.

I personally know people who have had their nightclubs shut down and fined because girls used fake ID

and, I was recently told a story whereby a man was with a "professional sex actress" who had a fake ID also, and he was sent to jail

The USA is currently using "downloaded illegal" porn files that people didnt even know they had on their computer, because they opened a spam email, which was sent by their political enemies

I don't doubt for a minute that Sean was involved with drug activity and even was the occasional or serial date rape drug rapist, as both he and some of his friends don't look like the type that like girls saying no to them,

but Sean doesnt have that look to me,

while, there are some others whose names and pictures have been posted all over the internet, do look like rapists

anyone that will rape will also kill

I am not characterising him for his conviction either, like you, I do not know the facts but in view of that conviction it is

imperative that he answers allegations against him, however spurious they may be in order that he becomes credible.

If he does not answer the allegations and makes allegations of his own about other people who may or may not be involved you can be certain

his conviction will be rolled out in order to remove his credibility by those he speaks about, if any.

I see this as his first step but, given his reluctance to join any debates I fear he will continue in his self exile from reality.

[seahorse]

hang on a second.

Sean is a musician and a singer songwriter

He doesnt need an excuse to post music on the internet

He is sharing his soul when he does that, and, shouldnt be condemned for it

I have no argument with that Steve and am not condemning him for sharing but, his friend was buiried last week and Hannah will be laid to rest today.

Posting on a website that is dedicated to finding their killers is insensitive to say the least.

Instead of sharing his soul perhaps he could answer a few direct questions?

At this present time he has not displayed anything other than self preservation and now, seemingly, promotion.

Cryptic lyrics are not what is needed, answers are.

No offence, I just think he is full of it.

Allegations are being made about him and he needs to address that issue at least, given his past criminal record.

ok, you make a few points, but,

I wasn't aware that he was posting on a thread dedicated to Hannah and David,

I thought it was his personal account on sound cloud?

And, about his past criminal record; this has been bothering me also, but not in the same way as others,

No one knows what that case was about, only the conviction,

and because he is young, and this was in his past,

who is to say he didnt have a picture of himself and two girls in a threesome and one of them was 17?

until it is brought to light about what exactly constituted "child porn" then, I am not buying this as a reason to denote his character.

I personally know people who have had their nightclubs shut down and fined because girls used fake ID

and, I was recently told a story whereby a man was with a "professional sex actress" who had a fake ID also, and he was sent to jail

The USA is currently using "downloaded illegal" porn files that people didnt even know they had on their computer, because they opened a spam email, which was sent by their political enemies

I don't doubt for a minute that Sean was involved with drug activity and even was the occasional or serial date rape drug rapist, as both he and some of his friends don't look like the type that like girls saying no to them,

but Sean doesnt have that look to me,

while, there are some others whose names and pictures have been posted all over the internet, do look like rapists

anyone that will rape will also kill

I read up on him just after the Daily Record published their story on him. A while ago now. Apparently Sean downloaded some pictures of teenage girls. That would make him an ephebophile, not a paedophile.

More pertinent is that he worked at the AC bar for 18 months previously (and had just come back to Koh Tao). He obviously indulges in the drug scene on the island. I wouldn't like to say where I think he gets his drugs from. (I would really...)

[ScotBkk]

Sean just remember the 2 canadian female backpackers you introduced to your Thai mates ?? If you don't talk to the right people they will ???????

If there are people with any info which could shed light on this case, they should speak up now. Even if it's info which would shed light on the character of some men who should be suspects (but who Thai cops conveniently eliminate from being witnesses because they're connected to the headman, or are cops, or....?).

Even if the Canadian women or whomever are out of the country, they should sign a notarized statement and have it mailed to their embassy in Bangkok, with the words; "Friend of Court info related to the Ko Tao double murder" written in bold on the front of the envelope.

It's likely that whatever men committed the heinous crime - also have a history of perpetrating violence - probably on that beach and/or connected to the AC bar. Anyone with possibly pertinent info should speak up now.

A note on the murder weapons: I and others have been mentioning the 'push-knife' theory as plausibly causing David's wounds. Upon further reflection, the sharp end of a broken bottle could have been the weapon - particularly if it had a prominent sharp piece sticking out. Afterwards, it's simple as pie to toss it out to the sea. Have investigators searched the seabed adjoining the crime scene? Answer: probably no more than they investigated many other areas/issues they should have looked at.

Also, have any of the suspects' bodies (including headman's friends, family) been inspected for bruises and cuts? Granted it's late now, and things heal, but it's likely any attacker would have bruises from a struggle, particularly hands/fingers. Sorry to mention this, but someone's dick may have been damaged by biting teeth. It's not uncommon in forced sex scenarios, and would explain why Hannah's murderer would resort to such barbarity.

Good Post .. however,

If this had been a broken bottle the injuries would be different in shape and form to also include shards/splinters of glass on David and at the murder scene .......

Edited October 10, 2014 by ScotBkk

[balo]

Sean could be right about the wounds he said happened in an accident september 9, if he was observed with the wounds before the the night of the murders someone should come forward and verify this. If not I'm afraid Sean will remain a suspect in many peoples eyes.

[ScotBkk]

Sean could be right about the wounds he said happened in an accident september 9, if he was observed with the wounds before the the night of the murders someone should come forward and verify this. If not I'm afraid Sean will remain a suspect in many peoples eyes.

Well done Balo... seems your becoming a bit more relaxed and more transparent mate ............

[Theforeigner]

Sean just remember the 2 canadian female backpackers you introduced to your Thai mates ?? If you don't talk to the right people they will ???????

If there are people with any info which could shed light on this case, they should speak up now. Even if it's info which would shed light on the character of some men who should be suspects (but who Thai cops conveniently eliminate from being witnesses because they're connected to the headman, or are cops, or....?).

Even if the Canadian women or whomever are out of the country, they should sign a notarized statement and have it mailed to their embassy in Bangkok, with the words; "Friend of Court info related to the Ko Tao double murder" written in bold on the front of the envelope.

It's likely that whatever men committed the heinous crime - also have a history of perpetrating violence - probably on that beach and/or connected to the AC bar. Anyone with possibly pertinent info should speak up now.

A note on the murder weapons: I and others have been mentioning the 'push-knife' theory as plausibly causing David's wounds. Upon further reflection, the sharp end of a broken bottle could have been the weapon - particularly if it had a prominent sharp piece sticking out. Afterwards, it's simple as pie to toss it out to the sea. Have investigators searched the seabed adjoining the crime scene? Answer: probably no more than they investigated many other areas/issues they should have looked at.

Also, have any of the suspects' bodies (including headman's friends, family) been inspected for bruises and cuts? Granted it's late now, and things heal, but it's likely any attacker would have bruises from a struggle, particularly hands/fingers. Sorry to mention this, but someone's dick may have been damaged by biting teeth. It's not uncommon in forced sex scenarios, and would explain why Hannah's murderer would resort to such barbarity.

It is VERY easy to verify/dismiss wether the murder weapon was a broken bottle or not.

IF the murder weapon was a broken bottle there would, with 100% certainty, be microscopic glass splinters to be found in David's wounds.

I sure hope that a UK autopsy is/has bin done.

Edited October 10, 2014 by Theforeigner

[balo]

Sean could be right about the wounds he said happened in an accident september 9, if he was observed with the wounds before the the night of the murders someone should come forward and verify this. If not I'm afraid Sean will remain a suspect in many peoples eyes.

Well done Balo... seems your becoming a bit more relaxed and more transparent mate ............

I have no problems with looking at this from both sides of the coin, as long as clear evidence is provided. But most of what we hear so far has been based on speculations from social media , not a good way to solve a crime.

[SteveFong]

hang on a second.

Sean is a musician and a singer songwriter

He doesnt need an excuse to post music on the internet

He is sharing his soul when he does that, and, shouldnt be condemned for it

I have no argument with that Steve and am not condemning him for sharing but, his friend was buiried last week and Hannah will be laid to rest today.

Posting on a website that is dedicated to finding their killers is insensitive to say the least.

Instead of sharing his soul perhaps he could answer a few direct questions?

At this present time he has not displayed anything other than self preservation and now, seemingly, promotion.

Cryptic lyrics are not what is needed, answers are.

No offence, I just think he is full of it.

Allegations are being made about him and he needs to address that issue at least, given his past criminal record.

ok, you make a few points, but,

I wasn't aware that he was posting on a thread dedicated to Hannah and David,

I thought it was his personal account on sound cloud?

And, about his past criminal record; this has been bothering me also, but not in the same way as others,

No one knows what that case was about, only the conviction,

and because he is young, and this was in his past,

who is to say he didnt have a picture of himself and two girls in a threesome and one of them was 17?

until it is brought to light about what exactly constituted "child porn" then, I am not buying this as a reason to denote his character.

I personally know people who have had their nightclubs shut down and fined because girls used fake ID

and, I was recently told a story whereby a man was with a "professional sex actress" who had a fake ID also, and he was sent to jail

The USA is currently using "downloaded illegal" porn files that people didnt even know they had on their computer, because they opened a spam email, which was sent by their political enemies

I don't doubt for a minute that Sean was involved with drug activity and even was the occasional or serial date rape drug rapist, as both he and some of his friends don't look like the type that like girls saying no to them,

but Sean doesnt have that look to me,

while, there are some others whose names and pictures have been posted all over the internet, do look like rapists

anyone that will rape will also kill

I read up on him just after the Daily Record published their story on him. A while ago now. Apparently Sean downloaded some pictures of teenage girls. That would make him an ephebophile, not a paedophile.

More pertinent is that he worked at the AC bar for 18 months previously (and had just come back to Koh Tao). He obviously indulges in the drug scene on the island. I wouldn't like to say where I think he gets his drugs from. (I would really...)

well, 8 out of 10 Thai girls that are in their 20's and 30's also look like teenagers, so, I think it is nonsense