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Where did high performance clutches come into this post ? blink.png

Wasn't the OP looking to change to an auto box hence no clutch ?

Personally I would sell the manual and buy an auto. Less hassle in the end

Trannyman brought up the high performance clutch he used 30 years ago saying they are heavy.

And still used to this day. The folk that make that multi plate in your photo, Monster Clutch Co, still make conventional but high performance single plate stuff.

Does anyone nowadays with lots ie excess of power and wants to be fast use their left leg to operate a clutch unit?.

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Where did high performance clutches come into this post ? blink.png

Wasn't the OP looking to change to an auto box hence no clutch ?

Personally I would sell the manual and buy an auto. Less hassle in the end

Trannyman brought up the high performance clutch he used 30 years ago saying they are heavy.

And still used to this day. The folk that make that multi plate in your photo, Monster Clutch Co, still make conventional but high performance single plate stuff.

Not by anybody that is making proper horsepower (650+)and wants a street friendly clutch pedal.

Unlike the old days when a car that made 400HP at the treads was considered amazing (even in my younger this rings true)the truth is these days it is not uncommon to see 1000HP daily driver cars.

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When I was still in Oz a very good friend of mine was a dab hand at tuning. His personal ride at the time a V8 Commodore ute which he had supercharged and was getting over 700hp at the wheels. Pity he died before he got it up to a 1000hp as planned.

He had moded Supras to get 750 to 850hp and other Toyotas. A head full of go fast knowledge and skilled at analysis all gone to god in heaven.

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Really, 1000hp daily drivers are common....blink.png

BUT, lets not argue eh......thumbsup.gif

No need to argue am just stating facts.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeer, I do not see any facts regarding common 1000hp rides.........rolleyes.gif

You need to understand the modified car scene in Australia.

If I was back home this car would be looking promising for me to park in my Garage... it is a typical Ford Falcon build.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/underwood/cars-vans-utes/f6-typhoon-1000hp-fg-fpv-xr6-turbo-bf-ba-hsv-drag-custom-tuff/1059367340

EDIT:

Just remembered a mate is selling his ute (another common type of build).

A_0QMDwCcAAx_A2_zpse1830cce.jpg

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Engine:

•383ci LSX Custom built in the USA

•Custom Turbo Kit

•Borg Warner 82mm comp wheel turbo

•Tial 40mm Wastegate

•Turbosmart race port BOV

•500x500x90 intercooler

•4" dump pipe to twin 3" exhaust with twin Varex Mufflers

Fuel System:

•2000cc ID Injectors

•Aftermarket fuel rails

•Speedflow fuel lines and fittings

•Turbosmart fuel pressure reg

•5L surge tank

•Twin Peirburg 800 fuel pumps

•Walbro 255l in tank pump

Drivetrain:

•T56 manual

•Mcleod RXT twin plate clutch and flywheel

•TruTrac LSD

•Harrop diff cover

•Driveshaft shop 1000hp axles and stub axles

Suspension:

•Koni coilovers and shocks

•King Springs

•Nolathane bushes throughout

•AP Racing BBK

Interior:

•VY Maloo leather seats

•VY Maloo Leather console

•Climate control

•Cruise control

•Tinted windows

Exterior:

•Full professional respray in "Quicksilver". Was also original colour

•VE Maloo style bodykit

•VY Maloo hardcover and sail plane

•Mini tubbed with McDonald Bro's Tubs

•Modified rear guards to house VE 20x10 wheels

•20x8 and 20x10 Matte black wheels

$29,000

And here is what 1004 rear wheel horsepower sounds like on a dyno.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl7vtPxTJsg

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I dont recall mentioning it was cheap so yes 1000hp is only for those with deep pockets.... should I have said instead " it is common for people with deep pockets in the modified car scene in Aus to build 1000hp daily drivers" ?

BTW, lots of people in aus do have deep pockets..... I wish I was one of them.

The guy who owns that 02PRUV ute also owns an 800HP Ultima and a little BMW M3 that is only making 700hp.... I guess you could say he has deep pockets.

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Where did high performance clutches come into this post ? blink.png

Wasn't the OP looking to change to an auto box hence no clutch ?

Personally I would sell the manual and buy an auto. Less hassle in the end

And I never mentioned a thing about racing.... Personally I'd keep the manual but that's me...

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Really, 1000hp daily drivers are common....blink.png

BUT, lets not argue eh......thumbsup.gif

No need to argue am just stating facts.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeer, I do not see any facts regarding common 1000hp rides.........rolleyes.gif

You need to understand the modified car scene in Australia.

If I was back home this car would be looking promising for me to park in my Garage... it is a typical Ford Falcon build.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/underwood/cars-vans-utes/f6-typhoon-1000hp-fg-fpv-xr6-turbo-bf-ba-hsv-drag-custom-tuff/1059367340

EDIT:

Just remembered a mate is selling his ute (another common type of build).

A_0QMDwCcAAx_A2_zpse1830cce.jpg

scan0005_zps82d0dffd.jpg

Engine:

•383ci LSX Custom built in the USA

•Custom Turbo Kit

•Borg Warner 82mm comp wheel turbo

•Tial 40mm Wastegate

•Turbosmart race port BOV

•500x500x90 intercooler

•4" dump pipe to twin 3" exhaust with twin Varex Mufflers

Fuel System:

•2000cc ID Injectors

•Aftermarket fuel rails

•Speedflow fuel lines and fittings

•Turbosmart fuel pressure reg

•5L surge tank

•Twin Peirburg 800 fuel pumps

•Walbro 255l in tank pump

Drivetrain:

•T56 manual

•Mcleod RXT twin plate clutch and flywheel

•TruTrac LSD

•Harrop diff cover

•Driveshaft shop 1000hp axles and stub axles

Suspension:

•Koni coilovers and shocks

•King Springs

•Nolathane bushes throughout

•AP Racing BBK

Interior:

•VY Maloo leather seats

•VY Maloo Leather console

•Climate control

•Cruise control

•Tinted windows

Exterior:

•Full professional respray in "Quicksilver". Was also original colour

•VE Maloo style bodykit

•VY Maloo hardcover and sail plane

•Mini tubbed with McDonald Bro's Tubs

•Modified rear guards to house VE 20x10 wheels

•20x8 and 20x10 Matte black wheels

$29,000

And here is what 1004 rear wheel horsepower sounds like on a dyno.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl7vtPxTJsg

A lot of data, but nothing inside the pants and brain.

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Where did high performance clutches come into this post ? blink.png

Wasn't the OP looking to change to an auto box hence no clutch ?

Personally I would sell the manual and buy an auto. Less hassle in the end

And I never mentioned a thing about racing.... Personally I'd keep the manual but that's me...

I guess it's because you couldn't make "Warp Speed" with an automatic, Scotty? Very impressive avatar.

Wife's youngest sister wants to know if you're single. but she doesn't want that you wear such a helmet in bed.

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Perhaps yes, everything moves on, but for high HP jobbies greater clamping pressure is required also. Hence bigger is better. My ride would burn any make of plate in a 1000 miles if I was stomping on it, clutch slip. Tried a sintered bronze paddle plate, not street-able, dumped it. My dual plate set up made by McLeod was a vast improvement but destroyed the gearbox. sad.png .

Nah.

I have mates that have big HP (800hp Supra's/1000HP Falcons) daily drivers and the clutches feel like stock ones to use.

I think sintered bronze plates stopped being used about 20 years ago.

Here's a Monster Clutch for the LSX, it will hold 1000hp.

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http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=235_79_76&products_id=4949&osCsid=301d1aa40c05f99c4bf2d6a6b11dd935

Here's a Monster Clutch for the LSX, it will hold 1000hp.

Never knew that monsters needed a clutch. Okay, I'm atheist.

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No need to argue am just stating facts.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeer, I do not see any facts regarding common 1000hp rides.........rolleyes.gif

You need to understand the modified car scene in Australia.

If I was back home this car would be looking promising for me to park in my Garage... it is a typical Ford Falcon build.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/underwood/cars-vans-utes/f6-typhoon-1000hp-fg-fpv-xr6-turbo-bf-ba-hsv-drag-custom-tuff/1059367340

EDIT:

Just remembered a mate is selling his ute (another common type of build).

Engine:

383ci LSX Custom built in the USA

Custom Turbo Kit

Borg Warner 82mm comp wheel turbo

Tial 40mm Wastegate

Turbosmart race port BOV

500x500x90 intercooler

4" dump pipe to twin 3" exhaust with twin Varex Mufflers

Fuel System:

2000cc ID Injectors

Aftermarket fuel rails

Speedflow fuel lines and fittings

Turbosmart fuel pressure reg

5L surge tank

Twin Peirburg 800 fuel pumps

Walbro 255l in tank pump

Drivetrain:

T56 manual

Mcleod RXT twin plate clutch and flywheel

TruTrac LSD

Harrop diff cover

Driveshaft shop 1000hp axles and stub axles

Suspension:

Koni coilovers and shocks

King Springs

Nolathane bushes throughout

AP Racing BBK

Interior:

VY Maloo leather seats

VY Maloo Leather console

Climate control

Cruise control

Tinted windows

Exterior:

Full professional respray in "Quicksilver". Was also original colour

VE Maloo style bodykit

VY Maloo hardcover and sail plane

Mini tubbed with McDonald Bro's Tubs

Modified rear guards to house VE 20x10 wheels

20x8 and 20x10 Matte black wheels

$29,000

And here is what 1004 rear wheel horsepower sounds like on a dyno.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl7vtPxTJsg

A lot of data, but nothing inside the pants and brain.

Are you saying the power claims are not real ?

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Where did high performance clutches come into this post ? blink.png

Wasn't the OP looking to change to an auto box hence no clutch ?

Personally I would sell the manual and buy an auto. Less hassle in the end

And I never mentioned a thing about racing.... Personally I'd keep the manual but that's me...

I guess it's because you couldn't make "Warp Speed" with an automatic, Scotty? Very impressive avatar.

Wife's youngest sister wants to know if you're single. but she doesn't want that you wear such a helmet in bed.

Nope definitely can't make Warp Speed without a manual in this case or with a pickup for that matter smile.png . I do wear a helmet in bed and actually take it everywhere with me, but not THAT one whistling.gif Ok that turned, but before I tell you if I'm single and available for the wife's sister I'd like to have a bit more info on the offer, like age, pics etc.. wai.gif At any rate you can pass on that I'm flattered wub.png so long as she is actually a "she" giggle.gif ..

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I can't see a T56 trans dealing with a 1000 gg's, even on production big torque motors it was dumped for a Tremco....sad.png

Tremco? or do you mean Tremec?

If indeed Tremec you do realise the T56 is a Tremec box don't you.

To be honest though Iam surprised the T56 is taking the power (assuming it is a stock box and not the Magnum), saying that the vehicle is babied and rarely driven in anger.

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I can't see a T56 trans dealing with a 1000 gg's, even on production big torque motors it was dumped for a Tremco....sad.png

Tremco? or do you mean Tremec?

If indeed Tremec you do realise the T56 is a Tremec box don't you.

To be honest though Iam surprised the T56 is taking the power (assuming it is a stock box and not the Magnum), saying that the vehicle is babied and rarely driven in anger.

Sorry, spelled it wrong, I meant the T6060........smile.png

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lol Tremco is a pretty bad spelling mistake for T6060.

The Magnum I mentioned... it is the T6060 box.

http://www.tremec.com/menu.php?m=104


Magnum 6-Speed Transmission

The kingpin of TREMEC's high performance line-up, the T-56 Magnum double-overdrive 6-speed transmission takes the very best from TREMEC's current OEM technologies and pairs it with the most popular features of the TKO 5-speed.

Able to withstand a massive 700 lb-ft. of torque while providing unbelievably crisp shifts, no other manual transmission on the planet offers as much combined strength, versatility, and general ease-of-use as the T-56 Magnum.

Known in its original equipment form as the 'TR-6060', the Magnum is an aftermarket version of the same transmission found in many of today's most celebrated factory super cars – including the ZR1 Corvette and ACR Viper – giving you refinement where you want it and strength where it counts.

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I understand your mistake 100%. If you bother reading my quoted text from the tremec website you too would understand that the T56 (Magnum) box that Iam talking about is more commonly known as the TR6060 box.

I assume you are talking about the TR6060 box though because whilst you mention T6060 (Tremec do not market a T6060 box) you link to a wiki entry for the TR6060.

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I understand your mistake 100%. If you bother reading my quoted text from the tremec website you too would understand that the T56 (Magnum) box that Iam talking about is more commonly known as the TR6060 box.

I assume you are talking about the TR6060 box though because whilst you mention T6060 (Tremec do not market a T6060 box) you link to a wiki entry for the TR6060.

thumbsup.gif .......smile.png

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Waaaaaay back I wanted to stay with a manual box, had a lot of fun and sounds with one. Alas at the time the GM T10 could not deal with stuff. Looked at the Doug Nash and Jerico trans, but one wasn't for sure insurance and the other expensive and...............So went auto, for a little cash you can convert a TH400 to deal with a 1000hp, which I did. Not so much fun but was OK...smile.png

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yeah TH400's are decent boxes with some coin thrown at them. A built one to take 1000hp can be had for $2000 these days throw a decent convertor behind it (bout $1000) and you will have a very stout combo that will live happily on the street or strip.

Personally though if I was to go for a built auto it would be a powerglide (if strip car) or 4L80E (for street car)which is the modern day version of the TH400 but has the 4th gear overdrive.

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