AGareth2 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 so are they saying it is a fix-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GAZZPA Posted October 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yesterday the British Foreign office summoned the Thai representative, a huge petition is being handed to the UK PM and just 24 / 48 hours later all the flaws are sorted out and the case is "perfect". Give me a break, do they really think people are that stupid? This is so obviously a stitch up, I have never seen anything quite like this before. How can this go to trial in just 7 days, how can that possibly be enough time to prepare the prosecution and defence cases,, unless of course it is a pre determined conclusion to try and shut everyone up. Please Thailand, give it up. If this is real then let the UK Met forensic team check the DNA between the 2 men and the victims and produce a comprehensive report. if it is real and the men are guilty then there is nothing to worry about. But I suspect it isn't real. Surely someone, somewhere can do something to stop the pace of this and get it done right? It is unbelievably frustrating to read this day after day. I hope the UK can do something, 2 British citizens have been murdered and the local police are making a pigs ear of everything. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pundi6446 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yep they have plenty of time, fix all flaws, and the UK and Myanmar Ambassadors, have been told to stay out of it, only watch, did we really expect anything less then this to happen, I think not, has been a total shame from the start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongoz Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Whats puzzling me so far 1. Why is there no proof that Nomsod was on the island on the 14th September? 2. Why did In Touch release the CCTV that definitely looks like Nomsod? 3. Why didnt In Touch not give the RTP the CCTV and say that it wasnt working 4. Why did the owner of In Touch release the photo in the convenience store{the one where he has phone in hand} Im confused by all this and yes i still think it was Nomsod who killed Hannah and David but Sean was there as well We need to see proof that Nomsod was on the island on the 14th Why?? Because Thais are the brightest sparks. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, the owner doesn't know what the underling has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Why do they both have a "already convicted " haircut? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpho Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 These guys might be the real perpetrators of this horrendous crime and if they are, they should be skinned alive. But the Thai police are totally responsible for this mess and all of the skepticism/doubt about the crime investigation and legal process. If they had just done their job methodically and relied on all of the investigative and forensic expertise offered to them and not run a daily soap opera with press conferences and media briefs, they would not be so heavily scrutinized and doubted so much now. But of course, this is Thailand and Thais have to save face...and know everything and don't need help from anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yep they have plenty of time, fix all flaws, and the UK and Myanmar Ambassadors, have been told to stay out of it, only watch, did we really expect anything less then this to happen, I think not, has been a total shame from the start. Imagine if the two nations imposed sanctions? They wont over such a case, but can you imagine that changes and instant evidence that would come forth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanlunadelacruz Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 'coz all of me loves all of you all your PERFECT IMPERFECTION bloody tweaking the whole story to save their faces.... it's really amazing in thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fred Flinstone Posted October 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2014 I spare my heartfelt sorrows for the parents of these poor Burmese Boys too- Watching in slow motion their innocence turned to "absolute guilt and subsequent execution" For evil reasons - Killed. While the parents of David and Hannah feel grief even more at the killers being left to roam and innocent boys killed. What a massive act of injustice and audacious arrogance!! Perfect case ? Perfect storm to become seen as "the dark place" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorrilee61 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 A little off topic I know, but I just got to think about it. Whatever happened to the size 40 footprint, that in the beginning of the "investigation" was considered an important clue? None of the almost "petite" suspects seem to macth a 40 shoesize! Size 40 is quite small for a man. Something like Size 6 UK. I take size 40, I take a womans size 10 au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Not even Kurt Vonnegut could not write this stuff.Who the hell published a Police Finding that says "No worries, the fix is in."Really?Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnnayko Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 how exactly??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Fink folk in LOS fink folk in the west are daft............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Shoddy and tacky. Thai government is working way too fast and that is just one issue hurting their credibility. Is there going to go be a defense fund for these two ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Whilst agreeing this travesty/insanity should still see the light of day by virtue of global media, I am still astonished that some on this forum are, after all evidence to the contrary, and given the Thai police's record here, still maintain doubt as to these two kids having been fitted up. As per. Tell you what, some credence may very well be given to your insanely stupid views, IF and WHEN DNA is taken from those who are believed, by the overwhelming majority of Thai and farang residents alike, to be the real culprits. Anything other than that is mere pissing in the wind. Of sheer and utter stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted October 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2014 What a joke this whole case It would be a joke if it wasn't so tragic and there weren't two dead British tourists involved in a murder case that stinks to high heaven. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Shoddy and tacky. Thai government is working way too fast and that is just one issue hurting their credibility. Is there going to go be a defense fund for these two ? You appear to be labouring under the delusion that Thai 'governance' has any credibility. It doesn't. Never has and the way things are going, never will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djhotsox Posted October 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2014 This is just a theory and maybe another TV member can let me know if I assume wrongly, but assumption #1 is that the prosecutors of this case are likely more intelligent than the police involved gathering the evidence and putting together a story? yes? So, let's say that while going over this huge document the prosecutors find bits where the story is weak or something just doesn't fit.....something that once inspected or viewed by the defendants side will hurt the prosecutors case? Well, how do they get that document back to the police to "improve"? Well, they publicly hand it back saying it lacks substance and we all the while assume that the "substance" is factual evidence when in reality maybe they wanted to hand it back so they could have the police take something out rather than put something in? Whose side are the prosecutors on anyways? I highly doubt they are above the rest of the lot here and are squeaky clean above the law sorts? Lawyers after all right? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post catweazle Posted October 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2014 This most likely is what the RTP means with flaws being fixed: 1) Conflicting witness accounts have been removed and witnesses silenced. 2) Bkk airways flight list with Mr. Milk on it has been deleted from the computers. 3) Students at Bkk university where mafia brat Milk arrived the morning the murders were discovered who claimed he had bruises and scratches on arms and back were either bought to keep their mouths shut or threatened into submission. 4) Conflicting evidence has been disposed of.5) The burmese "witnesses" are properly briefed and know they will end up dead if they decide to tell the truth. 6) Briefings were conducted to assure that no one who were in and around the safe house when the suspects were tortured and threatened will say a word. 7) Defense attorney had a nice visit from some special Koh Tao people who invited him for a private "talk". 8) Judge got a "call". 9) DNA samples have been swapped. 10) Any previous leads in the investigation such as Brat Milk, AC Bar Rambo, Sean, etc. have been removed form the investigation report. 11) Autopsy report has been "amended" with push dagger stab marks and anything suggesting a left handed assailand of above average Thai height having killed David removed. 12) A few Koh Tao family friendly police officers had their bank accounts topped up. 13) Thai media was told to shut up or else... Right - looking at all this, the case is perfect and flawless by now... 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironryon Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Any suggestions of where else to go for holiday because I'm getting less keen to go back to Thailand every day - it could be me banged up for something I didn't do too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleman Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The person who did the English translation of this article is doing a disservice to the readers. The case was turned away because it was "incomplete". The Thai word for "complete" can also be translated as "perfect". In this case the word should be translated as the case is now "complete". Doesn't that sound much more logical? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 This trial will not be a farse because they have already got the guilty verdict and statement printed up will be announced pretty soon by the soldiers.then the quality tourists will be flocking back in their millions and happy to pay the hotels inflated prices to make up the loss of earnings in the last few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peecee Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Where are the pics of their tortured bodies ? The Burmese embassy officials confirmed the bruising on the two men was evidence of torture. I can't see how the Thai police would want pics to get out, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 This is just a theory and maybe another TV member can let me know if I assume wrongly, but assumption #1 is that the prosecutors of this case are likely more intelligent than the police involved gathering the evidence and putting together a story? yes? So, let's say that while going over this huge document the prosecutors find bits where the story is weak or something just doesn't fit.....something that once inspected or viewed by the defendants side will hurt the prosecutors case? Well, how do they get that document back to the police to "improve"? Well, they publicly hand it back saying it lacks substance and we all the while assume that the "substance" is factual evidence when in reality maybe they wanted to hand it back so they could have the police take something out rather than put something in? Whose side are the prosecutors on anyways? I highly doubt they are above the rest of the lot here and are squeaky clean above the law sorts? Lawyers after all right? They are all sitting on the same side of the boat - they give a toss about an individual or a murder victim, especially about some burmese migrants without papers... All they care about is to keep the tourist dollars flowing in and protect Thailand and its officials from "losing face". Two patsies taking the fall, and knowing that a possible serial killer got away with it is just collateral damage to them... Also rest assured that the defense lawyer already has been threatened into submission and will do absolutely nothing to save the patsies. It's a f#$&ing disgrace 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsgatse Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 "FIXED" being the operative word.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Any suggestions of where else to go for holiday because I'm getting less keen to go back to Thailand every day - it could be me banged up for something I didn't do too Try Laos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 So, they got official approval to proceed with the coverup. Perfect my ass. This case has so many holes in it you could drive a Mach truck through it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It's perfect - All bank transfers have been perfectly finalised - All evidences have been perfectly tampered with - Original DNA Samples have been perfectly wiped away - CCTV footages have been perfectly destroyed - Few more perfect witnesses have been stored in a safe house for a few days Everything going perfectly according to plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucpez Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 We want the truth! Until then BOYCOT KOH TAO!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The only sure thing for me here is- they turned out incompetent to deliver a waterproof file in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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