February 3, 201511 yr These lines crossed with Mary and Joseph. It is my deepest opinion that Jesus' threat lie not with him bearing a new dispensation as a prophet or living god, rather as a legitimate claimant to the throne or Levite Priesthood. This is my opinion and I have long ago forgotten the influences that led me to this assertion. Good post. I would go so far as to say the Jesus figure as depicted in the Bible did not exist but is an amalgamation of at least two figures that likely did exist.
February 10, 201511 yr Jesus was never a real person. He was depicted as a person. Jesus is the sun. This is shown throughout lots of religions, all have similar storylines. The symbolism of being crucified is astrological, it's the sun being at its lowest point in the sky at that time of year, then it lines up with the southern cross or crux, And rises or resurrected again bringing longer hours in the day. Virgin Mary is also symbolic. She is also astrological, Virgo the virgin, she is shown holding a wheat sheath, Bethlehem means house of bread. The 3 wise men also astrological. All of Jesus disciples are astrological, 12 disciples are the 12 zodiac signs.
February 10, 201511 yr Jesus was never a real person. He was depicted as a person. Jesus is the sun. This is shown throughout lots of religions, all have similar storylines. The symbolism of being crucified is astrological, it's the sun being at its lowest point in the sky at that time of year, then it lines up with the southern cross or crux, And rises or resurrected again bringing longer hours in the day. Virgin Mary is also symbolic. She is also astrological, Virgo the virgin, she is shown holding a wheat sheath, Bethlehem means house of bread. The 3 wise men also astrological. All of Jesus disciples are astrological, 12 disciples are the 12 zodiac signs. You know this is quite brilliant. I have not seen the movie you refer to but of course dying and rising gods were not new in jesus's time. Any religion that did not have some sensible connection to what Romans could conceive would not have a real chance of surviving in the Empire. It is toward this point I think Paul and others romanized the legend of this backwater character and made him into a Mithra like image romans could ID with, or Horus, etc. Virginize a character or two, repackage it, and it would be palatable to Rome. Motivations? The same as always, the immediate, the vanity, the sincerity, mis revelation, who knows. But people through the ages have done such things. In the end, I think many folks here are right, Jesus is definitely portrayed today very different than he was, if at all. I had not considered this exactly as you cite it above but this is brilliant. The notion that the age of pieces was born at the fulcrum is suggestive. Hrmm, sol invictus. Maybe Constantine tapped into a still existing knowledge that it was 6 of 1 1/2 dozen of another, and then easily flew the Christian standard and replaced his Sol Invictus. thx
February 10, 201511 yr Zeitgeist religion on YouTube explains the whole story very well. I just watched the excerpt; thanks. Great stuff . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZFV6WxaVSA
February 10, 201511 yr OK, on a related topic. Egypt has banned the movie Exodus with one reason being historical inaccuracy that Jews did not help build the pyramids. Now I am not religious and see Bible stories as myths but I had always thought it was a known historical fact that Jews were slaves of the Egyptians during the time of building the pyramids. True or not? About the movie, I did see it, it is really not very good, the cartoon version was MUCH better, but it's hilarious to me that anyone viewing the movie would take it the the filmmakers even INTENDED to present a film based on historical FACTS. Tombs have been found around the pyramids with hieroglyphs talking about the tombs are of workers who constructed the pyramids. Egyptologists have said there's no way slaves would be buried in tombs, and no way slaves would be buried so close to kings and queens. So it raises questions that they weren't slave workers, they were more like builders, possibly a chosen group privileged to build royal pyramids.
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