beenhere2long Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Dogs are far more likely to bite children. 100% drivel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Koh Chang, Lagoon Resort, the place to go - NOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 If they don't give a toss then it's a place to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 you cant blame soi dogs after the way they are treated by many thais who beat the crap out of soi dogs and basically make some dogs violent to attack kids on a beach if thailand had alot better rights for animals you wouldnt see so many dogs looking to fight back against humans animals have just as much right to live on this planet as humans do Simple question, do you eat them? if you do you obviously do not think they have as much right to be here as us. Meat eaters who claim to be animal lovers don't seem to see the contradiction 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Dogs are far more likely to bite children. 100% drivel 100% correctSignificant dog bites affect tens of million of people globally each year.[1] It is estimated that two percent of the US population, from 4.54.7 million people, are bitten by dogs each year.[2] MOST BITES OCCUR IN CHILDREN.[3] In the 1980s and 1990s the US averaged 17 fatalities per year, while in the 2000s this has increased to 26.[4] 77% of dog bites are from the pet of family or friends, and 50% of attacks occur on the dog owner's property.[4] Animal bites, most of which are from dogs, are the reason for 1% of visits to an emergency department in the United States.[3] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Sorry to hear of your predicament. hope the little lady recovers, Thais don't care because it was a Falang. Just a foreigner. I wounder how they would react if a Falang who owned a dog bit a Thai child. But we already know, Police involvement, which would include a pay off, all medical bills paid for, and the probable intimidation from more that one Thai person. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slapout Posted January 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 growing up on a farm near a city, it was common for people to drive out to the country to dump their unwanted pets. the strays would pack up, chase livestock and became a threat to people, livestock, and the health of all concerned. they actually caused more problems than the coyote population. it became common for local farmers to shoot any dog on their property that did not belong to them, including neighbors dogs. they would put out bowls of antifreeze during cold weather for the strays to drink, laced meat, etc with deadly effect. one fellow even used his coyote hunting dogs to run them down and kill them. strays,and soi dogs are a huge problem that are like many problems encountered here on a daily basis, invisable to those tasked to serve and protect the public from this type of problem. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 growing up on a farm near a city, it was common for people to drive out to the country to dump their unwanted pets. the strays would pack up, chase livestock and became a threat to people, livestock, and the health of all concerned. they actually caused more problems than the coyote population. it became common for local farmers to shoot any dog on their property that did not belong to them, including neighbors dogs. they would put out bowls of antifreeze during cold weather for the strays to drink, laced meat, etc with deadly effect. one fellow even used his coyote hunting dogs to run them down and kill them. strays,and soi dogs are a huge problem that are like many problems encountered here on a daily basis, invisable to those tasked to serve and protect the public from this type of problem. This is just cruel, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted January 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) you cant blame soi dogs after the way they are treated by many thais who beat the crap out of soi dogs and basically make some dogs violent to attack kids on a beach if thailand had alot better rights for animals you wouldnt see so many dogs looking to fight back against humans animals have just as much right to live on this planet as humans do That would be the worst pack of garbage I have read in a long time, your name says it all humbug, complete humbug. Fight back against humans my sweaty bum, I have never done anything to or even threatened the 4 that have bitten me, each time on a public road. No dogs do not have as much right as humans to live in a human environment, on their own they have no rights at all, they are not wild animals living in an animal environment (forest) . When dogs learns not to crap all over the place as humans do not, when they pay their way as humans do, when they are no longer a menace to people then they may have some right. Dogs are treated far to well in this country, they sleep in the middle of roads and people drive around them, a danger to road users, they crap and pee everywhere, a health hazard, they carry diseases and parasites that can infest and even kill humans, as well as being threatening to and biting people. The dangerous mongrels need to be cleaned out, there needs to be a system (law) where dogs are registered to an owner and any that are not owned are removed, the owners are then responsible for their dogs and must by law take responsibility for their dogs. Where I come from that is what happens, if that little girl had been attacked in NZ the dog would have immediately been taken from the owner and put down and the owner charged with having a dangerous dog that was not under control, they would have been looking at a hefty fine and ordered to pay all costs involved with the girls treatment. This indeed happen in NZ where a little girl was bitten on the face and arms while playing in a park, the owners of the dog grabbed it and ran home to hide it leaving the girl lying on the ground. They were quickly traced and the dog taken from them, they appeared on TV crying...for their dog, couldnt care less about the girl who was scarred for life. I have had dogs most of my life before coming to this country but dog owners like the above disgust me as do those who defend dirty stinking dangerous soi dogs who have nothing to recommend them except that they are dogs. Edited January 3, 2015 by Robby nz 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarkOZ Posted January 3, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 I am the most vigilant parent there is so unless you have small children please do not comment. My daughter did NOT PROVOKE THIS ATTACK. ACCEPT THIS IS A PROBLEM. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted January 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 Mark most of us know its a problem the soi dog apologists dont 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownsyndrome Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) All the dog charities in Thailand are wanting the government to implement a dog neutering policy across the country. Not sure if its feasible but it makes sense. Edited January 3, 2015 by clownsyndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 All the dog charities in Thailand are wanting the government to implement a dog neutering policy across the country. Not sure if its feasible but it makes sense. Business sense. Nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted January 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 growing up on a farm near a city, it was common for people to drive out to the country to dump their unwanted pets. the strays would pack up, chase livestock and became a threat to people, livestock, and the health of all concerned. they actually caused more problems than the coyote population. it became common for local farmers to shoot any dog on their property that did not belong to them, including neighbors dogs. they would put out bowls of antifreeze during cold weather for the strays to drink, laced meat, etc with deadly effect. one fellow even used his coyote hunting dogs to run them down and kill them. strays,and soi dogs are a huge problem that are like many problems encountered here on a daily basis, invisable to those tasked to serve and protect the public from this type of problem. This is just cruel, no its fact, even in Australia if a stray dog enters a farmers property they are within their rights to shoot them. Years ago when contracting in the bush a carpenter took his dog with him to one of the farms we were working on, when he let it out of his ute it promptly started chasing th sheep, he grabbed his rifle and shot it before it caused ant damage or killed any. It is a well known fact that dogs kill more farm animals than any other predators, when dogs pack up they are capable of anything. Any dog that attacks anyone should be destroyed on the spot, they forfeit their right to life as soon as they bite people, especially little kids. If they are not owned so that owners can be hit with costs for any damage they cause they should be simply collected and destroyed, all stray dogs need to be removed and fines issued for letting them run free but it will never happen here. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarkOZ Posted January 3, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 Ok appoligize for this then.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkOZ Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 This was posted for Clawed Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) growing up on a farm near a city, it was common for people to drive out to the country to dump their unwanted pets. the strays would pack up, chase livestock and became a threat to people, livestock, and the health of all concerned. they actually caused more problems than the coyote population. it became common for local farmers to shoot any dog on their property that did not belong to them, including neighbors dogs. they would put out bowls of antifreeze during cold weather for the strays to drink, laced meat, etc with deadly effect. one fellow even used his coyote hunting dogs to run them down and kill them. strays,and soi dogs are a huge problem that are like many problems encountered here on a daily basis, invisable to those tasked to serve and protect the public from this type of problem. This is just cruel, no its fact, even in Australia if a stray dog enters a farmers property they are within their rights to shoot them. Years ago when contracting in the bush a carpenter took his dog with him to one of the farms we were working on, when he let it out of his ute it promptly started chasing th sheep, he grabbed his rifle and shot it before it caused ant damage or killed any. It is a well known fact that dogs kill more farm animals than any other predators, when dogs pack up they are capable of anything. Any dog that attacks anyone should be destroyed on the spot, they forfeit their right to life as soon as they bite people, especially little kids. If they are not owned so that owners can be hit with costs for any damage they cause they should be simply collected and destroyed, all stray dogs need to be removed and fines issued for letting them run free but it will never happen here. so slowly killing an animal is ok, letting it die from poisoning. shooting is ok if they die instantly. People are the problem just abandoning the animals in the first place. Thais just take them to the Temple and leave them for the Monks to take care, putting the Onassis on the Monks. Yes some thing has to be done but as so called Buddhist they don't like killing any animal or thing, Unless suites them. Edited January 3, 2015 by Thongkorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted January 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 This was posted for Clawed Warrior Hang on a minute, i am on your side. See my first post. Hope she gets well soon There needs to be a dog cull, simple 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossfinn Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Flaming heck, a bit too close to the eye. As the Toad, lives on the Island I will take his experiences, I was there for a short time this year and didn't find it too much of a nuisance, but it obviously is. Hope your young lady recovers well, and if you are having breakfast, and not causing any nuisance, you are not at fault in any sense. Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossfinn Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Mark You have confused posters on this occasion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkOZ Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Appoligies for missunderstanding This was posted for Clawed Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Goodness....bless the stars, her eyes are still good. sorry to hear about your situation. I trust your daughter and you recover from this ordeal... . Thanks for the heads up.. I was planning on going to the beach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hope you have some kind of travel or accident insurance covering your family in Thailand. If not, maybe you could make a claim with the owner/user of the place it did happen. Best wishes to your little daughter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakeman Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 If it were my child and I didn't attack the dog at the time I would most certainly deliver some nice tainted food for the dog later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 That is a beautiful and sweet little girl in the hospital bed. I'm so sorry it happened and it wasn't the parents' fault. Thais don't have the proper view of soi dogs. None of us would have killed that dog. We would have been too busy attending to our daughter. I certainguarantee you I would have gone back later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 <p>Appoligies for missunderstanding This was posted forClawed Warrior No worries Mark. Hope she gets well soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdanielmcev Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I may take a lot of flak for this, but here goes. First I am sorry the op's daughter got hurt, and I think the dog should be destroyed. Now here's the but......There's a whole lot of info missing between breakfast and dog bite. And it is a valid question. Maybe it's because I grew up around too many cops, judges and lawyers, but things don't just "happen." As my uncle used to say, "you want sympathy? Better make sure you deserve it." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacky54 Posted January 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 Nasty dogs biting do 'just happen' 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossfinn Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 but things don't just "happen." As my uncle used to say, "you want sympathy? Better make sure you deserve it." Firstly, I didn't see any notion of requesting sympathy, just a warning. And of course things just don't happen, there has to be a reason. They didn't need to have breakfast, they could have starved their child, so that they didn't have to cross a road, or go on a holiday. Risk Assessment, breakfast, just not worth the danger. They could have gone to Samui, not K Chang, still struggling to see how they could avoid crossing a road, or have breakfast, but hey, things just don't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) Very sorry to hear of this. Hope the eye is ok and she recovers quick. I would be inclined to send the hospital bill to the hotel. Not surprised by the indifference of the hotel; they just want the fuss to go away and couldn't care less I'm afraid. That sort of carry on really brings home how things are here; the MO being, you have created a problem for them by this happening through no fault of your own. Best you can do is float this all over the web on hotel review sites, fora, travel guides and the like. Potential family visitors need to be aware that, in some respects, this is not the best place to visit. Boy was bitten as a tot right inside a restaurant, also on the face. I was not there at the time but it would have been destroyed on the spot whether it was owned by the restaurant or not. Thailand needs to sort itself out on this because, aside from it being clearly a danger, if anything it gives off the aura of third world, then mangy, rabid dogs on the streets is it. Cull them all and massive fines for lazy owners that let them loose because they don't have to feed them and their incessant barking keeps people from breaking into their house! Btw: some really puke-worthy people on this thread; you know who you are! I just hope you get bitten right on the arse by one of these mangy mutts and come down with a bout of rabies. Pure karma. Edited January 3, 2015 by daveAustin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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