How to help those not adapting to Thailand ?

[geronimo]

Thaivisa is overloaded with rants from Westerner foreigners complaining about some Thailand law, Thai cultural practice, or Thai personality factors. These Ranters seem not to have been forced to settle in Thailand and yet demand this FOREIGN SOVEREIGN NATION be just like their favorite aspect of the place they moved out from. (Note, the non-ranters just want or provide plain info with no complaints and thaivisa is ideal for their messages, of course.) And, yes, I know this is a rant about Ranters.

Ranters, think about these facts:

-Thailand has gotten along, alone, for centuries without your input and firmly feels it can continue for more centuries without your ideas.

-Thai people firmly feel they are right, and nothing you say will change that, even if Thai are too polite to say that to your face.

-Thailand understands the dangers of adopting Western ideas and ways and thus has laws and rules to limit local practice of those ideas by

(a. limiting incoming ideas and competition via work permitting.

(b. not making rampant open resettlement here by tight immigration rules.

(c. watching foreigners here, enough of whom have proved to have undesirable qualities to justify watching--such as alcoholism/addictions, running from the law elsewhere, conducting illegal biz here, or are part of international criminal gangs. (think Periodic Reporting).

(d. in Thailand, your Westernized ideas about personal behavior, political rights, and how nice you should be treated are just WRONG here.

(e. your spending money in Thailand represents a tiny part of the economy and Thailand feels it knows it can do without all you may bring in and spend; i.e., you are just not at all economically important here.

(f. change is not automatically a good thing.

(g. Buddhism is not a silly superstition and does not need any of your adjustments to it.

(h. Thai women are not cute little brown servants.

There are more for this list. However, Ranters, try harder to Get Real about the facts of living here and just relax. I wish more thaivisa writers could offer help to Ranters who lack any other mode to let off steam but need help in adapting, much help.

How to adapt and live happily in Thailand......

-when angry, punch a pillow in private, or learn better anger control.

-love your partner, wife, etc. for themselves, not as you wish them to be.

-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government.

-never expect a Thai to follow your orders to the letter and do not give more than one request at a time.

-kindly laugh WITH a Thai asking for too much money, like tuk tuks, and compliment him on his sound capitalist ways.

-at least read about Buddhism so you can see it is a rational life philosophy with many good aspects and not superstitions.

-realize you live in Thailand primarily TO RELAX... this is your central life goal here and main reason to reside here.

Add your favorite..........................

Good rant. I couldn't have put it better.

[uptheos]

"-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government".

How about feeding you too and wiping bum?

[geronimo]

"-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government".

How about feeding you too and wiping bum?

I feel there are many who would take that option, if it were available.

[Gecko123]

"-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government."

Do you have your wife pre-chew your food for you, too?

Edit:

Seriously, that sounds like a recipe for being overly-dependent on your spouse, social isolation, and accelerated mental decline.

[kingalfred]

ranter is saddest poster ever. Clearly nothing to do!

[AnotherOneAmerican]

"-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government".

How about feeding you too and wiping bum?

I feel there are many who would take that option, if it were available.

That option is available,

All my Thai gfs have offered to shower me and wipe my bum.

Usually they attempt to feed me too.

Not to mention plucking excess nasal and ear hair and popping zits.

Quite sweet really.

[sirineou]

There is only one universal law in the universe..

"Adapt or Die"

But even if you do adapt, you will die anyway.

but you will die happier

[Thongkorn]

If you have to try and adapt, forget it, It should be a natural progression , not forced,

Like Alzheimers?

Thanks just learned to day from a gifted educated Thai member that Alzheimer's is forced maybe phone the local Hospital and tell them to stop forcing Alzheimer's on people,

[Jingthing]

Not worth replying to.

P.S. I am an American to.

P.P.S. I am an American too!

You want a medal?

[mrtoad]

Not worth replying to.

P.S. I am an American to.

P.P.S. I am an American too!

You want a medal?

Just a Baht Bus pass

[LivinginKata]

Troll post removed - plus all the replies.

[Squeegee]

OP sounds utterly spineless as he laughs along with and compliments those who are attempting to rip him off. OP clearly has no self-sufficiency in Thailand since he "always" has a Thai fronting for him, even when buying food.

It's quite simple: OP stop being so damn lazy and learn the correct prices for things, learn some of the language of your adopted country and stand up for yourself. Then, try actually being outside tourist areas and get out of your English speaking, second babyhood bubble and find out that most Thais are not going to over-charge you at all.

You might actually have some quality interactions with the natives along the way, beyond that one that married you and wipes your chin for you. Try not being so paranoid and being so concerned about others, life's too short.

How ironic this guy thinks he's got something to say about people not adapting well here. This topic is the yin to the yang of the one by the kid who thinks he's got advice for newbies.

[transam]

Not worth replying to.

P.S. I am an American to.

P.P.S. I am an American too!

You want a medal?

, I thought it said TOOL............. Sorry chap, it was a....!....and not a L............Must get my eyes fixed.........

[Crazy chef 1]

OP sounds utterly spineless as he laughs along with and compliments those who are attempting to rip him off. OP clearly has no self-sufficiency in Thailand since he "always" has a Thai fronting for him, even when buying food.

It's quite simple: OP stop being so damn lazy and learn the correct prices for things, learn some of the language of your adopted country and stand up for yourself. Then, try actually being outside tourist areas and get out of your English speaking, second babyhood bubble and find out that most Thais are not going to over-charge you at all.

You might actually have some quality interactions with the natives along the way, beyond that one that married you and wipes your chin for you. Try not being so paranoid and being so concerned about others, life's too short.

How ironic this guy thinks he's got something to say about people not adapting well here. This topic is the yin to the yang of the one by the kid who thinks he's got advice for newbies.

the advices for newbies gives Rangsritreppin....more experienced..

[smokie36]

Put your left foot in....your left foot out....do the hokey cokey......

What were we talking about again?

[StreetCowboy]

(h. Thai women are not cute little brown servants.

OP, you destroyed my whole world here......how could I ever?????.....Very silly of me........

Thank you for helping me adapt to Thailand

He's kidding no-one but himself

[StreetCowboy]

Not worth replying to.

P.S. I am an American to.

P.P.S. I am an American too!

You want a medal?

Being able to spell "too" doesn't justify a medal.

Except maybe on this forum, if you can also spell "lose" with only one 'o'

SC

[beechguy]

ranter is saddest poster ever. Clearly nothing to do!

No, actually that award goes to, the guy in the Bangkok Forum, whining that the BTS ripped off. Even though they showed him the card was expired, and apparently followed published policy. I think he lost 55 Baht after all was said and done.

[AYJAYDEE]

-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government.

Seriously?

Because I've been ordering food for myself this whole time, and it seems to have gone ok so far. What have I been doing wrong?

we've been over this a dozen times. by ordering your own food, you keep losing your seat at the food court. slow learner??

[AYJAYDEE]

"-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government".

How about feeding you too and wiping bum?

I feel there are many who would take that option, if it were available.

That option is available,

All my Thai gfs have offered to shower me and wipe my bum.

Usually they attempt to feed me too.

Not to mention plucking excess nasal and ear hair and popping zits.

Quite sweet really.

boy you sure need cleaning up. most guys do these things for themselves BEFORE the gf notices they need it.

[wowfactor10]

U wana help ?

_{How about help these farangs here that lost under dubious circumstances big sums of moneys land houses goods etc...?}

Then u would be really helpful

[yellowboat]

Many of us find the average Thai quite fine. It is the government that irritates and it irretates some Thais as well. They whole happiness thing has not took root with the entire population. But, please, keep ranting

[Mudcrab]

-never expect a Thai to follow your orders to the letter and do not give more than one request at a time.

Yep...can't have that old "don't follow the farang orders to the letter thing cropping up again." Certainly "not more than one at a time".End of the world as we know it old chap

Didn't they learn anything from Yul Brynner and "The King and I" Education that's the spirit old Chap What!

Damn Colonials.

[stuck]

Nice disguised rant.

I won't tell.

[Stradavarius37]

OP is a busybody - mind your own business...

[marko kok prong]

How about stuffing them and mounting them on a display on the wall as a talking point for the locals?

[KhnomKhnom]

-always have a Thai citizen "front" for you for everything from ordering food to dealing with Thai government.

If you are able to speak Thai you can do anything yourself.

-kindly laugh WITH a Thai asking for too much money, like tuk tuks, and compliment him on his sound capitalist ways.

No need to laugh, I just walk away and tell him in Thai I am not banock.

-at least read about Buddhism so you can see it is a rational life philosophy with many good aspects and not superstitions.

Thai Buddhism is full of superstitions otherwise the Amulet market would be dead.

To the OP stay on your Cloud 7 as long as it last.

Buddha never taught to collect amulets.

[techboy]

So keep your mouth shut and bend over and take it like a man or go home ...... Is this what you are trying to say ?

I do not know about that. I will admit that he is somewhat annoyingly know it all and self-righteous. My take on Thai bashers is not quite the same. They are for the most part wretched creatures who indulge in absurd and malicious speculation as though it were the truth. Or mischaracterize for denigrating purposes. They are not bending over and taking anything. I believe that they were the same losers in their own countries an now they have come full circle after the novelty of "the good life" has worn off. They take it out on the Thais.

[Time Traveller]

KhnomKhnom, thanks for the lecture. I'm sure the Dalai Lama could learn a lot from your wisdom. But don't keep your knowledge secret. Tell the world, everyone will be eternally grateful when you tell them everything that's wrong with them. But I pity you being so perfect in an inperfect world. It must really suck.

[harryfrompattaya]

I say take them to the nearest international and make sure the fly back home