Tt&t/cat Hinet Very Slow Since 2 Days

[prallo]

Does anyone has the same problem ?

When I test the international speed it is very slowly. I test with this site: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ (Result around 10 kBytes/s)

When I test the national speed inside Thailand it is very fast. I test with this site:http://speedtest.nectec.or.th/ (Result around 220 kBytes/s)

I know that the server was down yesterday and after it was up again the problem is still there.

Before the server went down I could download files from a normal webpage with speeds around 150-240 kBytes/s.

I have Hinet from CAT/TT&T 2Mb/1Mb down/uo

I live in Pattaya.

Edited August 24, 2006 by prallo

[hereforgood]

Does anyone has the same problem ?

When I test the international speed it is very slowly. I test with this site: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ (Result around 10 kBytes/s)

When I test the national speed inside Thailand it is very fast. I test with this site:http://speedtest.nectec.or.th/ (Result around 220 kBytes/s)

I know that the server was down yesterday and after it was up again the problem is still there.

Before the server went down I could download files from a normal webpage with speeds around 150-240 kBytes/s.

I have Hinet from CAT/TT&T 2Mb/1Mb down/uo

I live in Pattaya.

I have not had a bad day with slow speeds in more than 2 weeks TT&T sent some one to the condo Block where I live and they were replacing something not sure what but since then it has been Steady 390/440 DL and 170/200 UL. I am on line for work 16 hours a day and the speeds are steady all day. I have Maxnet 512/256 4 home package and I am in Central Pattaya.

Edited August 24, 2006 by hereforgood

[Guest Reimar]

There can be different problems.

In one area the speed can be very good in another very bad. It is depend on the connection sharing. If in your area is some Internet Cafe, the speed will be slow.

You need to check out your area first.

Anyway, the local speed will be normally fast. The international one is, depand on time of the day, mor slow. At my home in bangoko with TRUE the inter speed on the daytime is aroung 100-150 kbps (kilo bits / s) and at night above 1 mbps.

For downloading you need to use a download accelerator.

[hereforgood]

There can be different problems.

In one area the speed can be very good in another very bad. It is depend on the connection sharing. If in your area is some Internet Cafe, the speed will be slow.

You need to check out your area first.

Anyway, the local speed will be normally fast. The international one is, depand on time of the day, mor slow. At my home in bangoko with TRUE the inter speed on the daytime is aroung 100-150 kbps (kilo bits / s) and at night above 1 mbps.

For downloading you need to use a download accelerator.

My speed is tested from Sites in The States.

[Guest Reimar]

There can be different problems.

In one area the speed can be very good in another very bad. It is depend on the connection sharing. If in your area is some Internet Cafe, the speed will be slow.

You need to check out your area first.

Anyway, the local speed will be normally fast. The international one is, depand on time of the day, mor slow. At my home in bangoko with TRUE the inter speed on the daytime is aroung 100-150 kbps (kilo bits / s) and at night above 1 mbps.

For downloading you need to use a download accelerator.

My speed is tested from Sites in The States.

OK, fine, I use speakeasy as well.

If speakeasy shows low spedd like 100 kbps, I get a download with IDA of 150-200 KBytes. On IP-Star today the connection speed from speedteat.net shows 50-70 kbps but my downloads was 60+ KByte/s!

But again, with Download Accelerator only. as "normal" the downloads are about 5-7 KByte/s!

[prallo]

As you can see in the Topic, I ask about HiNet.

[hereforgood]

As you can see in the Topic, I ask about HiNet.

Well theres your Problem

[Guest Reimar]

As you can see in the Topic, I ask about HiNet.

If you read my reply you should understand that I wrote generally incl. HiNet!

The nature of international connection from here in Thailand differs compare to many countries! It is mainly a problem of the available infrastructure! What ever this means in Thailand!!

Anyway, the Bandwidth-"sharing" is terrible high.

One other things is that many of the availble ""INTERNET CAFEE'S"" do not have a corporate account, they using a peronal/Home account and a LAN for connection. THIS IS CLEARLY ILLEGAL!

If some one don't believe me, there is an easy way to check out. Just enter a I-Cafee, pay for 30 min., go to the command prompt of OS and type in: ipconfig /all. You will get the network settings of this computer include the IP-Address of the Gateway. write down this address open the i-Browser, got to http://www.whois.net and type in the Getway IP Address and check the registrant. All corporate accounts using a static/fixed IP-Address and you can easyly find out who is the owner of this address! If there isn't a private or private company name in that info, call to the ISP of that connection and ask for the owner info of that connection.

[Lannig]

(... true but beaten to death topic of Internet sucking in Thailand...)

One other things is that many of the availble ""INTERNET CAFEE'S"" do not have a corporate account, they using a peronal/Home account and a LAN for connection. THIS IS CLEARLY ILLEGAL!

"Illegal" might be too big a word here. Not conforming to the Terms of Service of the ISP they subscribe too, that's quite probably true. Do ISPs care that much? For small Internet cafes, not really. Does that mean that these Internet cafes provide poorer service? Quite possibly, but not always. With customers expecting to pay 20 bahts per hour these days, they can hardly afford a "pro" connection anyway. You get what you pay for.

If some one don't believe me, there is an easy way to check out. Just enter a I-Cafee, pay for 30 min., go to the command prompt of OS and type in: ipconfig /all. You will get the network settings of this computer include the IP-Address of the Gateway.

In most cases you'll get something like: IP=192.168.1.xx, gateway=192.168.1.1

write down this address open the i-Browser, got to http://www.whois.net and type in the Getway IP Address and check the registrant.

OK. Been there, done that. It told me "192.168.1.1" is not a valid domain name. Hardly a suprise because that page is for domain searches. Even if I were to look it up on a site that has IP address lookups, I'd get something like "RFC1918 private IP range". Wonder what this"RFC1918" company could be?

All corporate accounts using a static/fixed IP-Address and you can easyly find out who is the owner of this address! If there isn't a private or private company name in that info, call to the ISP of that connection and ask for the owner info of that connection.

Ahem. No smilie available carrying a "bull" sign. Too bad. I'll use this one

Correct, most if not all of business-grade Internet subscriptions give you at least one fixed IP, but that real IP is only on the router, and most customers by far use some kind of NAT internally, so you'll still just see a private IP on the desktops (including the configured gateway IP of course). So your "tips" above are completely off-topic IMHO.

If not due to lack of real IPs, many still do NAT for security reasons. Real IP to the desktop really isn't a common occurence nowadays in businesses/organisations/schools/whatever.

Call and ISP and ask them if their customer using IP 123.45.67.89 is a home user of corporate customer, then expect a reply? Good luck.

--Lannig

Edited August 25, 2006 by Lannig

[Guest Reimar]

(... true but beaten to death topic of Internet sucking in Thailand...)

One other things is that many of the availble ""INTERNET CAFEE'S"" do not have a corporate account, they using a peronal/Home account and a LAN for connection. THIS IS CLEARLY ILLEGAL!

"Illegal" might be too big a word here. Not conforming to the Terms of Service of the ISP they subscribe too, that's quite probably true. Do ISPs care that much? For small Internet cafes, not really. Does that mean that these Internet cafes provide poorer service? Quite possibly, but not always. With customers expecting to pay 20 bahts per hour these days, they can hardly afford a "pro" connection anyway. You get what you pay for.

"Not conforming to the Terms of Service of the ISP they subscribe" for is not against existing law? "Illegal" is just a short form of that long description!!

If some one don't believe me, there is an easy way to check out. Just enter a I-Cafee, pay for 30 min., go to the command prompt of OS and type in: ipconfig /all. You will get the network settings of this computer include the IP-Address of the Gateway.

In most cases you'll get something like: IP=192.168.1.xx, gateway=192.168.1.1

You're right, I forget to mention that you also can easyly find out you existing real IP-address over: http://www.whatismyip.com and this IP you will be able to check!

write down this address open the i-Browser, got to http://www.whois.net and type in the Getway IP Address and check the registrant.

OK. Been there, done that. It told me "192.168.1.1" is not a valid domain name. Hardly a suprise because that page is for domain searches. Even if I were to look it up on a site that has IP address lookups, I'd get something like "RFC1918 private IP range". Wonder what this"RFC1918" company could be?

Look above!

All corporate accounts using a static/fixed IP-Address and you can easyly find out who is the owner of this address! If there isn't a private or private company name in that info, call to the ISP of that connection and ask for the owner info of that connection.

Ahem. No smilie available carrying a "bull" sign. Too bad. I'll use this one

Correct, most if not all of business-grade Internet subscriptions give you at least one fixed IP, but that real IP is only on the router, and most customers by far use some kind of NAT internally, so you'll still just see a private IP on the desktops (including the configured gateway IP of course). So your "tips" above are completely off-topic IMHO.

If not due to lack of real IPs, many still do NAT for security reasons. Real IP to the desktop really isn't a common occurence nowadays in businesses/organisations/schools/whatever.

Call and ISP and ask them if their customer using IP 123.45.67.89 is a home user of corporate customer, then expect a reply? Good luck.

--Lannig

May you don't know how to talk and to who by an ISP. I do know that and I do this mostly every week min. once to find out who try to enter our systems and so on. This is one part of the work of my company we doing for our costumers.

Anyway the question here was why the speed drops and this was some explanation only and not any legal advice or something else.

Edited August 25, 2006 by Reimar

[Lannig]

I'll try to keep this one short. Promise.

"Not conforming to the Terms of Service of the ISP they subscribe" for is not against existing law? "Illegal" is just a short form of that long description!!

TOS != Law. Your ISP won't send you to jail if you cheat on them.

Really not the same thing to me.

You're right, I forget to mention that you also can easyly find out you existing real IP-address over: http://www.whatismyip.com and this IP you will be able to check!

That's a completely different approach, and yes, one that will sometimes give your the info you need. Not always, due to proxying.

May you don't know how to talk and to who by an ISP. I do know that and I do this mostly every week min. once to find out who try to enter our systems and so on. This is one part of the work of my company we doing for our costumers.

Ahem. I've worked for an ISP here for quite some time

We certainly weren't giving out any information to 3rd parties about our customers. Only to the cops when required to do so in an official document.

Anyway the question here was why the speed drops and this was some explanation only and not any legal advice or something else.

Correct. We're kinda

--Lannig

[Guest Reimar]

I'll keephort also:

"Not conforming to the Terms of Service of the ISP they subscribe" for is not against existing law? "Illegal" is just a short form of that long description!!

TOS != Law. Your ISP won't send you to jail if you cheat on them.

Really not the same thing to me.

It is not what someone will do or not, LAW are Rules applied to everybody incl. you and me, and the i-Cafee's they using the home accounts!

Not allowed by Law do not allow you to do what you want because the other side do not force a action against you.

And I do believe we should not tell something on this forum like: Doesn't matter you do or not, the ISP will not bring you to Jail!!

I do believe, if the forum rules do not allow to post links from Cracks, Warez and so on, than also posts like this should under the same rule. If this isn't so, than we can post even that things!

So I think, we better stop this discussion on this point or let "george" or "cdnvic" or someone else from the Admin Board give the abbility to clear this points.

One more thing: What I can do within my work and with my connection is for sure different from yours! I also don't need to hide my real name or anything else. Everything I publish, even on forums, is with my real name and I also give my real e-mail address and tel.no. for thoose who want to contact me. I do not need to lie. As I wrote in one of my post: I'm a imperfect person and like to be so. If I wrote something wrong I also will say excuse as I've done in this discussion already.