Reconciliation can only happen within principles of law: Prayut

[Lite Beer]

Reconciliation can only happen within principles of law: Prayut

BANGKOK: -- National reconciliation has to take into consideration the principles of law, otherwise Thailand will run into problems, Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha said in his weekly televised address Friday evening.

"All rules need to be considered. If we only concern ourselves with reconciliation without principles then we will have problems with the law. Amnesty also needs to be based on law. Many of these affairs involve the laws of the country. If true reconciliation is to be achieved, I suggest the first thing would be to cut down on derogatory accusations and let everything be processed systematically.

"Do not make judgements or turn personal bias into reason. It could be someone you like personally, but if the person has done wrong, then they are guilty. This person should learn to improve themselves in the future. Certain developments are setting the benchmark for the country and for everybody who will come in and administer the state," he said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Reconciliation-can-only-happen-within-principles-o-30254595.html

-- The Nation 2015-02-20

[lildragon]

Coups legal are they general?

[djjamie]

Well done PM. I can see this is why he is the most popular PM in the last decade...

The rule of law is paramount and is why the coup was necessary. To remove powers that refused to apply those rules against terrorists.

He really does need to employ Robert Amsterdam though to polish up his speeches and highlight the reasons for the coup and express how the rule of law was abused previously.

Edited February 20, 2015 by djjamie

[waitforusalso]

Well done PM. I can see this is why he is the most popular PM in the last decade...

The rule of law is paramount and is why the coup was necessary. To remove powers that refused to apply those rules against terrorists.

He really does need to employ Robert Amsterdam though to polish up his speeches and highlight the reasons for the coup and express how the rule of law was abused previously.

"I can see this is why he is the most popular PM in the last decade..." Well, your comedy is certainly better than your political analysis.

Speaking of the principles of law, how about explaining the principles behind your dodgy land deal with a company set up in an offshore tax haven. Or how about explaining your brother's wealth & its links to the budget of the 3rd army.

When people with shit on their hands start pointing fingers, a lot of shit gets everywhere.

P.S. I think you outdo gingag & various others to take the cake as biggest yellow troll on TVF. Congrats!

[ramrod711]

Well done PM. I can see this is why he is the most popular PM in the last decade...

The rule of law is paramount and is why the coup was necessary. To remove powers that refused to apply those rules against terrorists.

He really does need to employ Robert Amsterdam though to polish up his speeches and highlight the reasons for the coup and express how the rule of law was abused previously.

TROLL

Pot, Kettle, Black.

[lewy67]

Reconciliation can only take place when those who feel as though they have suffered from injustice receive justice - justice needs to be seen to be done and justice needs to be done. This can't happen until the soldiers are in their barracks under the control of a civilian government - and will this ever happen? Prayuth and his mates are the cause of the greatest injustice since the 2006 coup and can't claim any role in reconciliation.

[seajae]

here we go again, all the p*ssed off ptp,red, thaksin lovers starting to whinge, never mind the fact that they were responsible for several deaths and sh*tloads of corruption before they were removed as long as you lot can whine about the one that stopped them doing it. Why is it that you always ignore the facts about your own side totally, deny they are guilty of anything and simply try to belittle anyone that is doing much better then they ever did. The big difference is that most of those against the ptp, reds,thaksin are not yellows at all but ordinary every day thais and expats that know the truth about yl and her minions, they have made up their own minds, they have accepted the facts proven in legal courts and by investigators. They also know that the yellows and their leaders are also part of the problem and dont want them involved anywhere in the current clean up. I have no problems admitting when either side screws up as I want whats best for my wife, her family and her country, not what some criminal and his henchmen/sister try to force on people, anyone that has the ability to read knows the truth about everyone involved in this(not all the unsubstantiated crap either), but some cannot admit they are supporting the wrong side and not the people of Thailand.

[waitforusalso]

PM Prayuth did what needed to be done and good on him. And speaking of him It must frustrate you that he is more electable and popular than thaksin is.

Your claims are comical!

Electable & popular according to the propaganda organisation that they setup after the coup.

Get a grip!

[tomacht8]

The next elections are to take place in early 2016.

What's been a year in the time history?
We will see.
Today I saw his speech, with english subtitles.

Was quite interesting.

He talked about many problems such as water supply, prices of agricultural products, legislation, service obligations for state employees, etc.

[tbthailand]

Coups legal are they general?

well, then, let's "reconcile" him....

[tbthailand]

here we go again, all the p*ssed off ptp,red, thaksin lovers starting to whinge, never mind the fact that they were responsible for several deaths and sh*tloads of corruption before they were removed as long as you lot can whine about the one that stopped them doing it. Why is it that you always ignore the facts about your own side totally, deny they are guilty of anything and simply try to belittle anyone that is doing much better then they ever did. The big difference is that most of those against the ptp, reds,thaksin are not yellows at all but ordinary every day thais and expats that know the truth about yl and her minions, they have made up their own minds, they have accepted the facts proven in legal courts and by investigators. They also know that the yellows and their leaders are also part of the problem and dont want them involved anywhere in the current clean up. I have no problems admitting when either side screws up as I want whats best for my wife, her family and her country, not what some criminal and his henchmen/sister try to force on people, anyone that has the ability to read knows the truth about everyone involved in this(not all the unsubstantiated crap either), but some cannot admit they are supporting the wrong side and not the people of Thailand.

here we go again, anyone who doesn't like military governments is among

all the p*ssed off ptp,red, thaksin lovers

As for the rest of your comments,

they were responsible for several deaths and sh*tloads of corruption

ditto for current PM

Why is it that you always ignore the facts about your own side totally,

ditto for poster

that most of those against the ptp, reds,thaksin are not yellows at all but ordinary every day thais and expats that know the truth about yl and her minions, they have made up their own minds, they have accepted the facts proven in legal courts and by investigators.

can't say ditto to them accepting the results of elections, though, ... as for things "proven in legal courts", well...

They also know that the yellows and their leaders are also part of the problem and dont want them involved anywhere in the current clean up.

two points: the army and the 'yellows' are joined at the hip and have been for 70 years, as well as ... there is no "clean up" going on unless that is your euphemism for a "purge"

but some cannot admit they are supporting the wrong side and not the people of Thailand.

back to "ditto for the poster... " since the people of Thailand have no say in the current events. Only a minuscule minority wield any influence in Thailand today.

[bangrak]

When 'waitforusalso' and 'plowman' are the new guys sent to us by the Shins'/PTP/UDD/reds PR and propaganda team, we'll (I for sure) end up regretting the ol'guys of yore... Or are it the same guys with a new alias? Nooo, can't be, the previous ones had, though distorted and biased, for sure some brains of their own, and for a small group even opinions of their own, which made it a valid reason to enter into an exchange with them.

Maybe there's a parallel to be made, just on that matter, with the evolution of the mindset of guys who believed in a small man with a funny moustache, from the 1930s towards 1945. And what became of them when more and more signs were revealing a defeat was in the make, attempting to escape the unavoidable penalty for what they had done, by sinking even deeper into their aberrations?

Would the partisans of the 'Thaksin regime' here become the feeling the end is near, that 'judgement day' is coming, to write such vindicative nonsense?

[djjamie]

When 'waitforusalso' and 'plowman' are the new guys sent to us by the Shins'/PTP/UDD/reds PR and propaganda team, we'll (I for sure) end up regretting the ol'guys of yore... Or are it the same guys with a new alias? Nooo, can't be, the previous ones had, though distorted and biased, for sure some brains of their own, and for a small group even opinions of their own, which made it a valid reason to enter into an exchange with them.

Maybe there's a parallel to be made, just on that matter, with the evolution of the mindset of guys who believed in a small man with a funny moustache, from the 1930s towards 1945. And what became of them when more and more signs were revealing a defeat was in the make, attempting to escape the unavoidable penalty for what they had done, by sinking even deeper into their aberrations?

Would the partisans of the 'Thaksin regime' here become the feeling the end is near, that 'judgement day' is coming, to write such vindicative nonsense?

unfortunately that will go straight over Fathaggis's head. He needs to have names apparently of who you are referring to.

Don;t forget there maybe 20 000 people that have a funny moustache, from the 1930s towards 1945.

Fathaggis said it. Not me.

PTP logic from a DEM supporter. Who would have thought!

[NeverSure]

Mr. Prayuth, there is no rule of law in Thailand. Junta's are illegal. The international community see's it as illegal and a farce. Thailand's economy is slipping and freedoms have been taken away at gunpoint. "Reconciliation" is not happening. Political cleansing is happening.

The whole world knows it so stop the posturing.

[bangrak]

When 'waitforusalso' and 'plowman' are the new guys sent to us by the Shins'/PTP/UDD/reds PR and propaganda team, we'll (I for sure) end up regretting the ol'guys of yore... Or are it the same guys with a new alias? Nooo, can't be, the previous ones had, though distorted and biased, for sure some brains of their own, and for a small group even opinions of their own, which made it a valid reason to enter into an exchange with them.

Maybe there's a parallel to be made, just on that matter, with the evolution of the mindset of guys who believed in a small man with a funny moustache, from the 1930s towards 1945. And what became of them when more and more signs were revealing a defeat was in the make, attempting to escape the unavoidable penalty for what they had done, by sinking even deeper into their aberrations?

Would the partisans of the 'Thaksin regime' here become the feeling the end is near, that 'judgement day' is coming, to write such vindicative nonsense?

unfortunately that will go straight over Fathaggis's head. He needs to have names apparently of who you are referring to.

Don;t forget there maybe 20 000 people that have a funny moustache, from the 1930s towards 1945.

Fathaggis said it. Not me.

PTP logic from a DEM supporter. Who would have thought!

OK, but only for the (absent?) Fatty then, and as a Thai avoiding calomny: his name starts with an 'H', and people in his street called him 'Adolf'...

[mrmicbkktxl]

"It could be someone you like personally, but if the person has done wrong, then they are guilty."

Does that mean prayuth will jail Suthep?

[djjamie]

When 'waitforusalso' and 'plowman' are the new guys sent to us by the Shins'/PTP/UDD/reds PR and propaganda team, we'll (I for sure) end up regretting the ol'guys of yore... Or are it the same guys with a new alias? Nooo, can't be, the previous ones had, though distorted and biased, for sure some brains of their own, and for a small group even opinions of their own, which made it a valid reason to enter into an exchange with them.

Maybe there's a parallel to be made, just on that matter, with the evolution of the mindset of guys who believed in a small man with a funny moustache, from the 1930s towards 1945. And what became of them when more and more signs were revealing a defeat was in the make, attempting to escape the unavoidable penalty for what they had done, by sinking even deeper into their aberrations?

Would the partisans of the 'Thaksin regime' here become the feeling the end is near, that 'judgement day' is coming, to write such vindicative nonsense?

unfortunately that will go straight over Fathaggis's head. He needs to have names apparently of who you are referring to.

Don;t forget there maybe 20 000 people that have a funny moustache, from the 1930s towards 1945.

Fathaggis said it. Not me.

PTP logic from a DEM supporter. Who would have thought!

OK, but only for the (absent?) Fatty then, and as a Thai avoiding calomny: his name starts with an 'H', and people in his street called him 'Adolf'...

We better stop this communications before the conspiracy theorists say we are one and the same people...

If they think floods are responsible for a reduction in terrorism I hate to think what they will say about us!!!

[casualbiker]

"It could be someone you like personally, but if the person has done wrong, then they are guilty."

Does that mean prayuth will jail Suthep?

We can hope!

[englishoak]

Principles of law................does he mean the Junta version now or the ones they keep ripping up or maybe the ones to be made to suit later ?

The International community dosnt buy the line for a moment and knows the principles of law here will be made up or changed as they go along .... like it always is when a junta takes power.

Edited February 20, 2015 by englishoak

[Maestro]

Removed a troll post.

[baboon]

Bangkok had become a war zone? I am sure a fair few Ukrainians would take delight in spitting in your face for that comment. I used to go through during the night of the unrest and it was nothing like a war zone.

[casualbiker]

Bangkok had become a war zone? I am sure a fair few Ukrainians would take delight in spitting in your face for that comment. I used to go through during the night of the unrest and it was nothing like a war zone.

But I bet it's actually better now, right?

[baboon]

Bangkok had become a war zone? I am sure a fair few Ukrainians would take delight in spitting in your face for that comment. I used to go through during the night of the unrest and it was nothing like a war zone.

But I bet it's actually better now, right?

Better than what? The unrest was mainly confined to a few parts of a few neighbourhoods, transport was running, there was food in the shops, water and electricity supplies functioning, embassies were not recalling staff... Not exactly Donetsk or Aleppo, was it, despite what the usual suspects on here would have us believe...

[Thian]

Yes it's much better now.

We had thousands of protestors with weapons. Shootings, bombings, roadblocks, snipers, angry farmers, protesting monks, monks who got beaten up, and so on.

Now 600 billion baht is missing only on the ricescam, there are plenty more scams to be discovered.

The police did nothing to protect civilians, they just did what they always did, extorting people.

There was no other way out then this option. Or many more people would have lost their lives.

What's so democratic about buying votes for 500 baht and then stealing it back? And how many billions does it take to make some family's happy? It's an endless story.

I hope the corruption will be stopped now, police reorganised (replaced), new rules new game. Without the army the old game will be played again after 3 days.

[Snig27]

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Well done PM. I can see this is why he is the most popular PM in the last decade...

The rule of law is paramount and is why the coup was necessary. To remove powers that refused to apply those rules against terrorists.

He really does need to employ Robert Amsterdam though to polish up his speeches and highlight the reasons for the coup and express how the rule of law was abused previously.

Your understanding of truth, honesty and logic are certainly unique Jamie. You said a while back that the coup made the country a better place to raise a child - one hopes when you are teaching him/her those ethics and standards you point to yourself as an example to avoid.

[Xircal]

The next elections are to take place in early 2016.

What's been a year in the time history?

We will see.

Today I saw his speech, with english subtitles.

Was quite interesting.

He talked about many problems such as water supply, prices of agricultural products, legislation, service obligations for state employees, etc.

A year? The coup took place on May 22, 2014 which is getting on for two years ago. Elections were promised for 2015, but have now been moved to 2016. When that eventually arrives on our doorstep, they'll no doubt be moved again to the following year.

As for the talk of the utilities and the cost of agricultural products etc., etc., is all just so much rhetoric for the benefit of TV audiences. The military continues to crackdown on dissent and in doing so, the country is gradually leaning towards authoritarianism.

[Fatty123]

PM Prayuth did what needed to be done and good on him. And speaking of him It must frustrate you that he is more electable and popular than thaksin is.

Your claims are comical!

Electable & popular according to the propaganda organisation that they setup after the coup.

Get a grip!

I used to get angry with his posts. Like you, I now find them comedy gold. More electable? Good one

Until recently, coups were lllegal too, and probably one of the most serious offences one could commit. Wasn't it a capital offence? Problem is that those in charge of the coups have tanks, guns and all kinds of stuff. The law changes in seconds and they grant themselves amnesty forever by putting a few puppets in the courtrooms.

That one isn't so funny.

Reconcilaiton is not possible with the Junta's double standards, and rounding up of one side and letting off the other lot (monk my arse, by the way). And before we get the 'red shirt' crud, I dislike the Shins as much as anyone can. I just don't like BS and double standards.

That's probably the worst joke of the lot. Sorry Jamie.

[Thai at Heart]

When a man is sitting in his own position only by the grace of ripping up a constitution, how on earth can he talk of the rule of law

[metisdead]

Some rather melodramatic obfuscation posts have been removed as well as the replies.

[dominique355]

Well done PM. I can see this is why he is the most popular PM in the last decade...

The rule of law is paramount and is why the coup was necessary. To remove powers that refused to apply those rules against terrorists.

He really does need to employ Robert Amsterdam though to polish up his speeches and highlight the reasons for the coup and express how the rule of law was abused previously.

Is it permissible to ignore the rule of law again those who violate the rule of law?

No! There can be no exception and no compromise on the principle of the rule of law.

If that is so, the general should he be put in prison for high treason?