Lite Beer Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Prayut denies planning to abolish free healthcare to save money for buying submarinesThe Nation BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha Sunday denied that his government planned to abolish the free universal healthcare programme so that it would have money for buying three submarines.Upon returning from Japan, Prayut said the proposed procurement has nothing to do with the universal healthcare because it has been studied for years.He said the government did not plan to discontinue the healthcare programme but the government simply did not have enough money to expand the health services. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Prayut-denies-planning-to-abolish-free-healthcare--30263785.html -- The Nation 2015-07-05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just to be clear - No money to expand the healthcare scheme. However, does have billions of dollars to buy 3 subs that can dive in water as deep as 260 feet. Ok............got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Buying subs, same as the aircraft carrier, that now they call a helicopter carrier. !! Toys for the boys !! Total waste of money Thailand has no need of subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Boyd Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Cosying up to China... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Can the sub's and put healthcare first will keep you in power Prayut, think of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenp Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Buying subs, same as the aircraft carrier, that now they call a helicopter carrier. !! Toys for the boys !! Total waste of money Thailand has no need of subs. i don't want to put you down. BUT we don't really know, do we. We don't know anything about there country's security policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 One thing you can put money on he will have the best treatment at taxpayers expense forget the people just worried about his chosen one he is a total arse.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I think, Thailand is actually a rich country. There is more then enough money. It's a shame that so many Thais must anyhow suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 One thing you can put money on he will have the best treatment at taxpayers expense forget the people just worried about his chosen one he is a total arse.. That certainly shows me that there is no democratic election in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 If they buy 3 Subs, they better buy a deep sea recovery vessel as well, as it would just be an accident waiting to happen. Surely common sense would say health service first,but this is Thailand. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannum opinions Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Buying subs, same as the aircraft carrier, that now they call a helicopter carrier. !! Toys for the boys !! Total waste of money Thailand has no need of subs. i don't want to put you down. BUT we don't really know, do we. We don't know anything about there country's security policy. Buying Subs? What is there to know. Can you imagine if there was a representative Parliament, how they would be pilloried. They could forget about ever being re-elected. If there is a security policy that legitimizes submarines for Thailand, I would love to see it. As # 8 above states "I think, Thailand is actually a rich country", but nevertheless, a country full of poor people, where children are the pension plan, security is very important I suppose. Edited July 5, 2015 by Bannum opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 They a filling their pocket and stripping the country of Revenue at record pace , Submarines , High speed Railways , there will be nothing left for any democratically elected government to spend on Social policies. I hope these hypocrites see Justice one day. At least Thaksin did something for the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Hes handing out pay rises to civil servants and considering to buy submarines but wants to cut healthcare? My oh my oh my, this bloke is a dangerous fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Buying subs, same as the aircraft carrier, that now they call a helicopter carrier. !! Toys for the boys !! Total waste of money Thailand has no need of subs. i don't want to put you down. BUT we don't really know, do we. We don't know anything about there country's security policy. Buying Subs? What is there to know. Can you imagine if there was a representative Parliament, how they would be pilloried. They could forget about ever being re-elected. If there is a security policy that legitimizes submarines for Thailand, I would love to see it. As # 8 above states "I think, Thailand is actually a rich country", but nevertheless, a country full of poor people, where children are the pension plan, security is very important I suppose. Can you imagine if there was a representative Parliament, how they would be pilloried clamoring over each other for their piece of the pie from this budget..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannum opinions Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Buying subs, same as the aircraft carrier, that now they call a helicopter carrier. !! Toys for the boys !! Total waste of money Thailand has no need of subs. i don't want to put you down. BUT we don't really know, do we. We don't know anything about there country's security policy. Buying Subs? What is there to know. Can you imagine if there was a representative Parliament, how they would be pilloried. They could forget about ever being re-elected. If there is a security policy that legitimizes submarines for Thailand, I would love to see it. As # 8 above states "I think, Thailand is actually a rich country", but nevertheless, a country full of poor people, where children are the pension plan, security is very important I suppose. Can you imagine if there was a representative Parliament, how they would be pilloried clamoring over each other for their piece of the pie from this budget..... Correct. All Govt. entities and Departments would be trying to do exactly as you say. But in Mature Democracies, the annual budget is presented with an eye to the next election, and to put a stamp of their own ideology on policies going forward. Not sure submarine purchases would advance that objective, other than the ideological one. Can you imagine if the Lumpini PDRC had instead spent all that energy convincing the electorate of their take on things in an election. Urged the electorate to "turf the bums", and presented their own policies and direction, including submarines if they wanted. That would have been much better for everyone. Edited July 5, 2015 by Bannum opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 If they buy 3 Subs, they better buy a deep sea recovery vessel as well, as it would just be an accident waiting to happen. Surely common sense would say health service first,but this is Thailand. regards Worgeordie The waters around Thailand aren't deep enough to need a DSRV, they can use their normal escape procedures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannum opinions Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? All of above points taken directly from the Opposition playbook, and their orchestrated Thaksin demonization campaign. If all that was true, take it to the electorate. Convince them of all this stuff. The fact they were afraid to do that, is all one needs to know, to put it in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannum opinions Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS "Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power." Yes it did, and if space permitted, one could list significant evidence supporting it. The FACTS as mentioned. Many Thai's, other than those linked to the Bangkok-centric elite whose governing hegemony was threatened by Thaksin's policies, will list out for anyone interested, the pre and Post Thaksin differences and evidence of this. Hard evidence, and not fearful Opposition outpourings contained in their demonization campaign against Thaksin. A campaign they launched to try and legitimize themselves. Their primary vehicle being the judiciary, hoping it would lend credibility to their political stuff and motivations. But at the head of this long list, #1 is always the 30-baht hospital program. Edited July 5, 2015 by Bannum opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS If for you vote buying is free and fair election, your only election model was North Korea Now remind me who give money to rice farmer for their crop stolen by YL government (Take something without pay is call steal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 They a filling their pocket and stripping the country of Revenue at record pace , Submarines , High speed Railways , there will be nothing left for any democratically elected government to spend on Social policies. I hope these hypocrites see Justice one day. At least Thaksin did something for the people Ummm subs haven't been agreed on (yet) high speed rail was in play under yingluck (they were going to borrow trillions on a 20-30 year loan) What exactly are social policies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS If for you vote buying is free and fair election, your only election model was North Korea Now remind me who give money to rice farmer for their crop stolen by YL government (Take something without pay is call steal) Had they not been firstly hamstrung by protests and then overthrown they may have payed the Farmers sooner , who is to say that they were not going to pay the Farmer themselves. Was there every an announcement saying"We will not pay the Farmer". If there wasnt an announcement how do you KNOW they would not have paid them You are just adding 2 and 2 up and coming with 500 Vote Buying , what a load of Junta , right wing Rubbish , they are all at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS If for you vote buying is free and fair election, your only election model was North Korea Now remind me who give money to rice farmer for their crop stolen by YL government (Take something without pay is call steal) Had they not been firstly hamstrung by protests and then overthrown they may have payed the Farmers sooner , who is to say that they were not going to pay the Farmer themselves. Was there every an announcement saying"We will not pay the Farmer". If there wasnt an announcement how do you KNOW they would not have paid them You are just adding 2 and 2 up and coming with 500 Vote Buying , what a load of Junta , right wing Rubbish , they are all at it Yes. There was an announcement.. It's called dissolving the government before paying the debt owed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS If for you vote buying is free and fair election, your only election model was North Korea Now remind me who give money to rice farmer for their crop stolen by YL government (Take something without pay is call steal) Had they not been firstly hamstrung by protests and then overthrown they may have payed the Farmers sooner , who is to say that they were not going to pay the Farmer themselves. Was there every an announcement saying"We will not pay the Farmer". If there wasnt an announcement how do you KNOW they would not have paid them You are just adding 2 and 2 up and coming with 500 Vote Buying , what a load of Junta , right wing Rubbish , they are all at it The same propaganda from marxist who love violence and support terrorist A souvenir for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 If they buy 3 Subs, they better buy a deep sea recovery vessel as well, as it would just be an accident waiting to happen. Surely common sense would say health service first,but this is Thailand. regards Worgeordie The waters around Thailand aren't deep enough to need a DSRV, they can use their normal escape procedures But the sub's may be good for undetectable trafficking between Burma and Malaysia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS "Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power." Yes it did, and if space permitted, one could list significant evidence supporting it. The FACTS as mentioned. Many Thai's, other than those linked to the Bangkok-centric elite whose governing hegemony was threatened by Thaksin's policies, will list out for anyone interested, the pre and Post Thaksin differences and evidence of this. Hard evidence, and not fearful Opposition outpourings contained in their demonization campaign against Thaksin. A campaign they launched to try and legitimize themselves. Their primary vehicle being the judiciary, hoping it would lend credibility to their political stuff and motivations. But at the head of this long list, #1 is always the 30-baht hospital program. Just love your posting name "Bannum Opinions" Ban everyone's opinion except yours and the drivel you continue to spew in support of a corrupt family run former dynasty. I would love to see the poorer people of this country get a better deal in the true socialist ideal fashion...but not at the expense of the neo dictatorship the Shinawatras wished to impose. Anyone who still supports the failed Shinawatra model is either foolish or a full blown communist...as many of their supporters were and still are....for all the wrong reasons (think old Joe Stalin absolute rule). The sad part about it all is that the misguided true believers from "the old country" think they are truly important in their cause in Thailand. Just quietly ..you are not and will be chewed up and spat out the same as any other farang in the bigger scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I realize that Prayut is not the sharpest tool in the box but even he cannot be that stupid surely, but there again........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calimotty Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least Thaksin did something for the people Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? Unbelievable Idiocy, is why Thailand is where it is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Well propaganda from marxist side.... If Taksin do something why Isaan remains the poorest region thailand ? Why during YL regime no poor farmer receive payment of their rice crop ? Why only landlords proxy to his camp receive benefit from rice scheme ? Why Taksin not use is personal fortune for help poorest area of Thailand ? Why Taksin and is camp use vote buying ? Why he want to transform a constitutional monarchy to fascist dictatorship “republic” under Thaksin Shinwatra rules ? hahahahahahaha , he's a fascist is he. I recall him winning via elections not military take overs. Actually the poor's lot did improve vastly since he first took power. have a look and don't let your obvious hatred for the man get in the way of FACTS If for you vote buying is free and fair election, your only election model was North Korea Now remind me who give money to rice farmer for their crop stolen by YL government (Take something without pay is call steal) Had they not been firstly hamstrung by protests and then overthrown they may have payed the Farmers sooner , who is to say that they were not going to pay the Farmer themselves. Was there every an announcement saying"We will not pay the Farmer". If there wasnt an announcement how do you KNOW they would not have paid them You are just adding 2 and 2 up and coming with 500 Vote Buying , what a load of Junta , right wing Rubbish , they are all at it as with most of the posters without any objectivity, it is necessary to point out the vote-buying did not affect the outcome of the 2011 elections. But it should be noted that the current "PM" was working at the time to influence the results with subtle "hints" on how people should vote.... Not sure if military threats constitute a good environment for "free and fair" elections... As to your point about paying farmers, it wasn't just that the government was hamstrung by protests, but that Suthep, his allies, and the PDRC protesters were actively blocking the payment to the farmers. some posters do not actually have a good grasp of current events in Thailand, ... but they post anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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