4 Marines and gunman killed in attack on two US military sites

[Credo]

In my opinion the Obama Administration are letting far too many risky people into America... Political Correctness raises its ugly head again... The Obama Admin wouldn't say NO to Attila the Hun ... No matter the lessons that should have been learned from 9-11 and a dozens serious incidents since.

He attended High School and University in the US. That is likely a total of 8+ years, so he wouldn't have been 'let in' by the Obama administration. He would have been a gift from the previous administration.

[DLang]

Perhaps America should pull all troops, military bases and embassies out of the ME.

You know, leave them alone.

[JDGRUEN]

ISIS tweets “Chattanooga” as gunman begins shooting there; 4 murdered

...AP, the shooting started “around 10:30 or 10:45 a.m.” The Islamic State tweet warning of the attack or crowing about the attack was posted at 10:34AM. “Gunshots were fired at a military recruiting center and a Navy Reserve center in different parts of Chattanooga, Tennessee.” And the Islamic State has called on Muslims to murder American military personnel here in the U.S.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/isis-tweets-chattanooga-as-gunman-begins-shooting-there-4-murdered

[canuckamuck]

It's still pretty early, but indications are that he was radicalized via the internet. So we have a country where everyone has free and unfettered access to social media, guns are easy to obtain, and the NSA has been defanged by Edward Snowden et al. More of the same coming?

Maybe there needs to be a sub-forum of the World News forum for weekly (daily?) reports of gun violence in the US ... and the usual denials that there's any possible connection between lax gun control laws/enforcement and the frequent use of guns to cull the population.

Or a subforum dedicated to reports of Islamic violence. That would cover a lot of territory.

[rijb]

USA is getting a taste of real muslims, the kind that started to invade europe 20+ years ago

What the hell do you think 9-11 was?!

[JDGRUEN]

In my opinion the Obama Administration are letting far too many risky people into America... Political Correctness raises its ugly head again... The Obama Admin wouldn't say NO to Attila the Hun ... No matter the lessons that should have been learned from 9-11 and a dozens serious incidents since.

He attended High School and University in the US. That is likely a total of 8+ years, so he wouldn't have been 'let in' by the Obama administration. He would have been a gift from the previous administration.

The Bush Admin was slow to learn the lesson too - and seems they didn't fully... Ah yes Kuwait the good guys BARF... IMO there should be NO immigration or even long term visas from any Islamic country ... I fail to see any benefit to America of their presence in the U.S.

Edited July 17, 2015 by Scott

[JDGRUEN]

It's still pretty early, but indications are that he was radicalized via the internet. So we have a country where everyone has free and unfettered access to social media, guns are easy to obtain, and the NSA has been defanged by Edward Snowden et al. More of the same coming?

Maybe there needs to be a sub-forum of the World News forum for weekly (daily?) reports of gun violence in the US ... and the usual denials that there's any possible connection between lax gun control laws/enforcement and the frequent use of guns to cull the population.

Or a subforum dedicated to reports of Islamic violence. That would cover a lot of territory.

With a gun ban -- then the Islamic Terrorists would just make bombs that they are so skilled at.

[webfact]

CHATTANOOGA, Tennessee (AP) - FBI: 'No indication' that anyone else was involved in fatal shooting of 4 marines in Tennessee.

[HeijoshinCool]

… Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez of Hixson, Tennessee ...

Geez, how the immigration "laws" have changed the face of America.

Last time I was in Tennessee, most guys were named Billy Bob, or Larry, or Clyde.

Not immigration to blame. He was on a student visa, just like the 9-11 hijackers.

The US embassy in Jordan is to blame though, they issued the visa.

Lastly, plenty of people in Tennessee named Mr. Singh who you meet at Gas Stations/ 7 11's, and they don't go around shooting people in the land of their adopted nation. My point being.. there is good immigration.. and 99% is good. You wouldn't be using a USB mouse/ charger without immigration.. the guy who invented it arrived in the US from India.

But there's some that slip through the cracks and people start thinking xeno phobia. All you need to look at how they became radicalized.. like the son of a Boston Police Captain that wanted to bomb a university in the name of Islam but his own father turned him in.

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Not immigration to blame. He was on a student visa … The US embassy in Jordan is to blame though, they issued the visa.

What!?

The whole process starts with USCIS, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, a department of Homeland security.

There is zero reason why these people (yes, I said "these people") need to be coming to the United States to study anything.

You're not xenophobic, if they are really trying to kill you.

[Benmart]

It's still pretty early, but indications are that he was radicalized via the internet. So we have a country where everyone has free and unfettered access to social media, guns are easy to obtain, and the NSA has been defanged by Edward Snowden et al. More of the same coming?

Maybe there needs to be a sub-forum of the World News forum for weekly (daily?) reports of gun violence in the US ... and the usual denials that there's any possible connection between lax gun control laws/enforcement and the frequent use of guns to cull the population.

Please review the US Federal gun control laws. Hardly lax. As a former peace officer in California, I can speak on the enforcement side from experience. Again hardly lax.

"Cull"(ing) the population is a poor choice of words and indicates either a lack of compassion or a lack personal experience on the subject.

"Nothing better than an armchair lawyer to cry out an objection in the courtroom".

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

On a human level RIP to thoose that lost their lives in this terror act.

On a security level mass surveillance 0 - home grown terrorist 10. You cannot fight home grown lone wolf terrorists with mass surveillance.

[Lissos]

Perhaps America should pull all troops, military bases and embassies out of the ME.

You know, leave them alone.

In look, another person who believes Islamist Jihad is a 'response'.

[Jingthing]

Perhaps America should pull all troops, military bases and embassies out of the ME.

You know, leave them alone.

Making apologies and excuses for the ISIS inspired terrorist. Oh, that's the ISIS that chops heads off of Christians on the beaches, burns people alive, and throws gays off tall buildings. Excuse me while I vomit. It's interesting this being an international forum that we get all kinds, including Jihadist terrorist apologists.

Edited July 17, 2015 by Jingthing

[impulse]

In my opinion the Obama Administration are letting far too many risky people into America... Political Correctness raises its ugly head again... The Obama Admin wouldn't say NO to Attila the Hun ... No matter the lessons that should have been learned from 9-11 and a dozens serious incidents since.

He attended High School and University in the US. That is likely a total of 8+ years, so he wouldn't have been 'let in' by the Obama administration. He would have been a gift from the previous administration.

For more than a decade, Mr. Abdulazeez, his parents and his sisters had made their home in a subdivision called Colonial Shores, just across the Tennessee River from Chattanooga.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/us/chattanooga-shooting-suspect-was-ordinary-boy-neighbors-recall.html

[Tchooptip]

I do not condone this attack in any way, ok? But can hardly expect to have zero casualties in US forces while routinely carrying out drone strikes in several countries in the Middle East. Rather childish to assume the other side is just going to sit there and take it.

Sorry there is no unlike button.

[JockPieandBeans]

Stand easy and RIP Marines.

Condolences to your families and loved ones.

From a brother from the other side of the pond.

[Baerboxer]

Perhaps America should pull all troops, military bases and embassies out of the ME.

You know, leave them alone.

Making apologies and excuses for the ISIS inspired terrorist. Oh, that's the ISIS that chops heads off of Christians on the beaches, burns people alive, and throws gays off tall buildings. Excuse me while I vomit. It's interesting this being an international forum that we get all kinds, including Jihadist terrorist apologists.

I have many Moslem, Christian, Jewish, Atheist, Agnostic and even a couple of Jedi Knight friends. They include heterosexuals and homosexuals, many nationalities and races.

All are under threat from the violent deranged lunatics that are ISIS. They slaughter, often as brutally as possible any who don't submit to their will or fit with their idea of society. They are never ever going to change or modify their views and have found access to funds, streams of indoctrination and how to attract impressionable recruits.

They are the most serious threat to world peace, and consider themselves at war with any who do not support them and live how they say.

The world governments are so immersed in their bickering and rivalries that they loose site of the significant threat ISIS represents. They need to wake up quickly before it's too late.

[Jingthing]

Well, actually I think the U.S. government now does see ISIS as the number one threat ... bigger than Iran, as evidenced by recent current events. What to do about it ... not so easy.

[JetsetBkk]

Of course none of this had anything to do with Islam.

Of course not. More workplace violence.

[/sick sarcasm]

[Baerboxer]

Stand easy and RIP Marines.

Condolences to your families and loved ones.

From a brother from the other side of the pond.

Indeed. Serving their country and murdered by a terrorist. RIP and condolences.

Those that support extreme political and/or religious views through terrorism consider attacks on unarmed military, police, civilians and children fair game. In so doing they should loose the expectation of human rights law affords the rest of mankind.

The IRA also pursued the murder of unarmed military recruitment personnel. Now the US and other forces need to be aware ISIS have the same idea,

[Lissos]

It is only a matter of time before media start the - "how did we fail him?" rhetoric, the same old self blaming assumption that these people do what they do because of some 'failing' of us.

[Credo]

His family will hopefully return to where they came from. I think they have worn out their welcome.

[thaibeachlovers]

And STILL Obama won't call it Islamic fundamentalist terrorism, or do anything meaningful about it.

Americans should be outraged that despite the government spending billions on the NSA spying palace and organisation they can't actually detect a terrorist that wasn't even hiding.

[Metapod]

I for one am glad that he targeted a militrary base.

America routinely invades other countries and is in a state of perpetual war.

At least this guy decided to attack the military and not the general population, which is more than can be said for the US armed forces.

[MaxYakov]

Perhaps America should pull all troops, military bases and embassies out of the ME.

You know, leave them alone.

Making apologies and excuses for the ISIS inspired terrorist. Oh, that's the ISIS that chops heads off of Christians on the beaches, burns people alive, and throws gays off tall buildings. Excuse me while I vomit. It's interesting this being an international forum that we get all kinds, including Jihadist terrorist apologists.

Maybe they aren't simply "apologists".

[Basil B]

… Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez of Hixson, Tennessee ...

Geez, how the immigration "laws" have changed the face of America.

Last time I was in Tennessee, most guys were named Billy Bob, or Larry, or Clyde.

"Billy Bob, or Larry, or Clyde." whatever happend to Crazy Hourse, Sitting Bull and Hiawatha???

Any American who questions immigration should look up their family tree first...

[Usernames]

On a human level RIP to thoose that lost their lives in this terror act.

On a security level mass surveillance 0 - home grown terrorist 10. You cannot fight home grown lone wolf terrorists with mass surveillance.

He was not a home grown terrorist. He was an immigrant.

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

On a human level RIP to thoose that lost their lives in this terror act.

On a security level mass surveillance 0 - home grown terrorist 10. You cannot fight home grown lone wolf terrorists with mass surveillance.

He was not a home grown terrorist. He was an immigrant.

He was a US citizen (according to an NBC report), he attended atleast high school and thereafter college within the US. His family was considered an average American family (according to news reports). Unless you want to say that immigrants that become US citizens are not real US citizens ?

[Usernames]

On a human level RIP to thoose that lost their lives in this terror act.

On a security level mass surveillance 0 - home grown terrorist 10. You cannot fight home grown lone wolf terrorists with mass surveillance.

He was not a home grown terrorist. He was an immigrant.

He was a US citizen (according to an NBC report), he attended atleast high school and thereafter college within the US. His family was considered an average American family (according to news reports). Unless you want to say that immigrants that become US citizens are not real US citizens ?

I'm saying that he and his family are immigrants. Otherwise, don't put words in my mouth. "Home grown" is incorrect.

[Steely Dan]

Well I thought for a minute the gift of peace would not be visited on mainland U.S this Ramadan, but alas one sneaked in just before the deadline. I wonder whether the Obama administration will reverse its policy of failing to monitor Mosques for fear of being accused of profiling?