simon43 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 In my garden, there re quite a few of these scorpions, typically about 10cm long. They often make an appearance when it rains, heading for the dry of my conservatory area where I normally sit. I don't kill them, but use a brush or something to persuade them to go outside. But call me mad, but I want to know if they will have a tendency to sting if I pick them up?! I always pick up the large millipedes, because I know that they cannot bite/sting me. (I am not talking about centipedes, which are aggressive and will give a painful bite). I also pick up snakes that I can identify as non-poisonous, or with jaws that are too small to harm me. So, has anyone picked up one of these large black scorpions without injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Pick them up by the tail,taking care not to get stung,these black scorpions,the sting is about same as a bee, its the ones with thin claws you have to be careful with ,they can be deadly.thanks for not killing them,lots of people on ThaiVisa seem to want to kill anything that moves. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 scorpians are a delicacy to some... but I would not one in my bed... so I clear them away from the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 They are more tasty than dangerous. Lots up here at the moment too. I saw one the other day crossing the road that was damn near as big as a dinner plate. You should buy a big bottle of hang dong and then put them in that. You can also add a cobra for garnish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 think i read........... big jaws = small sting, small jaws = big sting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Agressive ? perhaps you mean defensive, I think they can actually be "tamed" as I have seen Thai folks handle them, but not holding them, just allowing them to walk on their arms and hands. As stated earlier, not something to be feared, they sure do look badass though, nature is awsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toknarok Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The poison sting in the smaller species of scorpion tend to be much more potent than the larger ones as pictured. I think this is because the large scorpion can grip its prey (such as a beetle) in it's claws and thus be able to sting it multiple times, whereas the smaller scorpion cannot hold its prey so well and need a more potent sting to immobilise it's lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The theory is that if you pick it up by the tail close to the stinger it does not have the strength to lift it's body by it's tail muscles so will just hang there so you can drop it over the wall to the outside. That's the theory, anyone out there can try and let me know. I use tongs and just drop them over the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If that is your garden the scorpion is on, you need a gardener sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 These are the type the 'Scorpion Lady' sits there covered in for the amusement of tourists so I don't expect them to be too aggresive. Nevertheless, rather her than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Good pic Simon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Good pic Simon! Thanks! I'll let Mr Google know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Pretty sure venomous snakes are not safe to pick up just because they have a small head. Be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterphil Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) think i read........... big jaws = small sting, small jaws = big stingIts the colour of them how dangerous they are. Black - Non venomous Yellow - Venomous Edited August 13, 2015 by misterphil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slerickson Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ha! I just got stuck 2 nights ago by one of these. It's nothing compared to a bee sting. Didn't kill it but chased it away from the house. Dogs wouldn't get very close to eat even though they will kill any and all snakes. The scorpion wasn't being aggressive, it was in a dark corner and nowhere for it to go when I apparently put my foot down right next to it. Be aware of the white ones though or so I've been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterphil Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 After spending over 5 years working in African deserts, the only good insect is a dead one. Black scorpions not venomous. Yellow ones venomous. Snakes, scorpions get either a machette or a hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscano Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I have encountered quite a few in our garden and a couple of times in the bathroom , having entered from the water outlet pipe . It wouldn't help to step on one , but I don't find them aggressive at all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Regular visitors to my garden. Dogs take me to them but won't go near them. Pick up with tongs, you can hear the stinger hit the tongs, then drop outside. No need to kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Black scorpions are venomous...however their venom is not harmful to humans in the same way that a bee sting is not harmful to humans unless you have an alergy to the bee sting. When picking up a black scorpion grasp the "stinger" between the thumb & forefinger, squeeze a bit but not too much to rupture it and pick the beasty up. Mind you their claws will take nice chunks of your skin away from wherever your skin is attached if you piss off said scorpon. How can you tell if you've pissed off the scorpuon? You can't. If stung by the black scorpion it will hurt like all get out not only from envemomation but also from the physical size of the stinger itself...it's thick & long. Treat as you would a bee or wasp sting or immerse the part stung in the hottest water you can stand for at least 5 minutes. If you start tio have breathing difficulties or an irregular heartbeat get to a hospital asap & have someone go with you to describe what stung you/bring the splattered scorpion along in a bag so the hospital has a positive ID. There are scorpions here that may be lethal...the yellowish/brownish amber looking ones and the grey with orange spots type. Seriously...grey with orange spots & perhaps reddish orange spots. These two types will ruin your day & possibly your life...don't ever try to handle these unless you are 100% sure you know what you're doing. Even then it's best to simply shoo em away. Use a slender stick or broom to shoo em away...and be forwarned...they can move pretty quick if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Not aggressive, but had to get up the odd night because dog and scorpion are dancing around each other and the dog is barking. Stood on one accidently in the dark and it was stabbing the sole of my flip flop, but only because I trapped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli42 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 They won't kill you but it hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 think i read........... big jaws = small sting, small jaws = big sting Read again. Claws not Jaws. Big clasw small sting. Thin (small??) claws, bad sting is what the man said, assuming he is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Pretty sure venomous snakes are not safe to pick up just because they have a small head. Be careful. Some snakes have the ability to dislocate the lower jaw so they can swallow their sometimes quite large prey whole. (Did you ever see a snake with a knife & fork?) Be aware that an animal that can dislocate it's lower jaw can manage a much bigger bite that you would think. Do not be foolish around snakes. PS Malaysian Pit Vipers can look a bit like a small python at first glance or in poor light. Don't go trying to pick up one of them or you can die. The first one I saw round here, it was exactly what i thought, but one of our staff had already killed it I was feeling a bit bad about it til I got out my snake book & Google images & broke into a cold sweat. PS I do not like poisonous things but black scorpions look pretty un- aggressive and generally move reasonably slowly. I just move them on unless right up against the house. Edited August 13, 2015 by The Deerhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Pick them up by the tail,taking care not to get stung,these black scorpions,the sting is about same as a bee, its the ones with thin claws you have to be careful with ,they can be deadly.thanks for not killing them,lots of people on ThaiVisa seem to want to kill anything that moves. regards worgeordie How anyone would want to pick up snakes or these horrible looking scorpion things I just do not know. Are they going to stroke them, cuddle them or what? UGGGGGGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrilliant Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 As mentioned: Big claws, small sting, small claws, big sting. They are not 'aggressive' in the way Scolopendridae (giant centipedes) are, however they are feisty and will go on the defensive (i.e sting or nip) if threatened. They can be easily manoeuvred onto a dustpan or shovel and bunged over the fence into next door's if needed.....so no real need to handle or squash them. To the 'squash them on sight' gang, bear in mind that they are handy in keeping vermin numbers down as well as numbers of other possible dangerous creatures such as spiders, centipides and even snakes, down too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If that is your garden the scorpion is on, you need a gardener sir! I think you're confusing garden with lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Pick them up by the tail,taking care not to get stung,these black scorpions,the sting is about same as a bee, its the ones with thin claws you have to be careful with ,they can be deadly.thanks for not killing them,lots of people on ThaiVisa seem to want to kill anything that moves. regards worgeordie you are very shallow..... they are farmed for consumption . i think you need a reason to feel good about yourself by being above killing vermin in your garden , blood simple that is ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 think i read........... big jaws = small sting, small jaws = big sting I think that applies to their overall size in general as well. The paler ones seem more poisonous as well. I was hit by one of these in Mexico. I was taken to the Red Cross and they kept me under observation for an hour to make sure my airway did not close up. It hit me on the arm and it was really sore for a couple of days. It was winning the lottery I guess I just happened to lean on the wall on top of the only scorpion on the premises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Good pic Simon! Thanks! I'll let Mr Google know According to the new government rules are we not supposed to give credit to the person from whom we "borrowed" the picture from in this case Google. Just asking a question do what you want. Personally I think the world is to jammed up with rules. Pretty soon we will have to contact the government when we want to have sex and pay the sex tax. Guess that means once a month for me. How about you guys? Edited August 13, 2015 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 think i read........... big jaws = small sting, small jaws = big sting I think that applies to their overall size in general as well. The paler ones seem more poisonous as well. I was hit by one of these in Mexico. I was taken to the Red Cross and they kept me under observation for an hour to make sure my airway did not close up. It hit me on the arm and it was really sore for a couple of days. It was winning the lottery I guess I just happened to lean on the wall on top of the only scorpion on the premises. Yeah - I thought I'd always read that the smaller the scorpion the more dangerous it is (to humans, anyway) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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