Green book change need to show motorcycle?

[Kenny202]

Having a motorcycle green book change from my girlfriends name to my name. She's told me the transport department say we need to bring the vehicle for inspection. It's a year old with 3000km. Is this normal?

[wabbitcnx]

As far as I know yes. They check serial number vs green book

[Kenny202]

I bought the bike from a dealer. I drove it away and they took care of the green book ie was never checked? Maybe dealers are different

[stoli]

If they tell you to bring the bike in, take it in. What make life more difficult than it is? Of course they need to check the serial numbers. Why do I believe you know this already, and this is why you don't want to provide the bike?

[Kenny202]

If they tell you to bring the bike in, take it in. What make life more difficult than it is? Of course they need to check the serial numbers. Why do I believe you know this already, and this is why you don't want to provide the bike?

Oh 60ks on the back of a ute for nothing if not required. I don't know how many times I been told the wrong thing and wasted time with govt departments. As for u? I asked for someone with experience ie facts which are all too hard to find on TV. If you don't know, you chime in with Ur useless opinion for what? Edited August 24, 2015 by Kenny202

[kartman]

So will the Green Book still be doing the 60k without the bike in the back of the Pick Up?

[Furryman]

I bought the bike from a dealer. I drove it away and they took care of the green book ie was never checked? Maybe dealers are different

They probably did the number check in the back while you were doing paperwork, so you just did not notice it. Pretty much they check the numbers every year when you pay the taxes. They actually do a rubbing of the number stamped into the metal onto a piece of masking tape. It usually costs 60 baht for that number check and a safety check, making sure lights and horn are working.

Most dealers will do a ownership change for you if you don't want to do the leg work yourself. Costs 800-900 baht for the transfer paperwork service IME.

[PoolHustler]

100% bike has to go for the name transfer, have to check vin numbers

[Ulic]

Yes it is normal. I bought a used bike with 2,800km on the odometer. I had to take the bike to an

inspection station with the owner to do the paperwork and ownership transfer. It took the better

part of a day. If a dealership will do the transfer for 800-900 baht it is well worth it.

[oneday]

Assuming the bike is in your name on the green book and the bike is under 5 years of age, then NO, it is not necessary. Kilometers on the odometer is of no consequence. It is only the age of the bike that is important.

Go to any local P.R.B. (Paw Raw Baw) office and they will handle this for you for a small commission. Do not bother driving all the way to the Land Office and taking care of this (wherever your Land Office is). P.R.B. offices are everywhere. Their sole purpose is doing this kind of stuff and renewing yearly registrations. I recently changed the name on one bike and our car and our P.R.B. lady handled everything, including taking rubbings of the serial numbers and then taking it all to the Land Office herself. Neither vehicle needed to be inspected. The P.R.B. places do this all the time. The commissions are well worth the price since they go to all the hassle of standing in line for you and dealing with the people at the Land Office. Neither my bike or car had to be inspected. They are only inspected after reaching a certain age; 5 years for bikes. Our car has not reached it's age limit yet at 4 years old so maybe cars have a 5 year limit also.

I have changed names on 3 vehicles so I speak from experience.

What you will have to do is get a "Resident Certificate" or I have heard having a "Work Permit" or almost certainly a "Yellow House" book to prove or show your place of residence. They will also need a copy of your passport. I do not have a work permit or house book so I always have to get a "Residence Certificate" from immigration. You need this anytime you buy, sell or change names on either a bike or car.

Edited August 24, 2015 by oneday

[menzies233]

I bought the bike from a dealer. I drove it away and they took care of the green book ie was never checked? Maybe dealers are different

You are right, I have bought privately and you have to take the bike/car, however, the dealer can do all of the transfer of the green book and tax insurance just by rubbing a piece of masking tape with a pencil on your frame number. A hell of a lot less hassle.

[Kenny202]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

[Furryman]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

I think you could do it either way, but if you go together, then if there is a problem like some photocopys not being signed or whatever, the other guy is right there to help get it sorted out.

[Kenny202]

Funny you say about sign. My missus was handling it this morning and came back 3 times and told me the lady asked me to "sign" in the same area I had already signed. After signing 3 times I found out she meant print my name

[ThaiWai]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

"the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check"

​They are checking to see if the bike is stolen. Why are you of the belief that bikes with low mileage would not be stolen?

[Kenny202]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

"the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check"

​They are checking to see if the bike is stolen. Why are you of the belief that bikes with low mileage would not be stolen?

A previous poster mentioned if the bike is under 5 years inspection not necesary. That's why

[stevenl]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

"the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check"

​They are checking to see if the bike is stolen. Why are you of the belief that bikes with low mileage would not be stolen?

A previous poster mentioned if the bike is under 5 years inspection not necesary. That's why

That is related to yearly registration renewal, not to sales inspection.

[merijn]

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

That is correct, I sold my car last month to another farang and i filled out and signed my part of the transfer forms.

He can then transfer the car into his name at any land transportation department at any time his wish.

I wrote also a simple sales contract to confirm the ownership transfer at the date and time so he is responsible for any problems afterwards.

[jacko45k]

I bought the bike from a dealer. I drove it away and they took care of the green book ie was never checked? Maybe dealers are different

Yes I did too, but the process seemed complicated and the bike shop moaned and groaned a bit. So initially they put it in my wife's name, then we transferred it over to my name later. OP, yes they need to see the serial number to make sure it is the same bike.

[Liquorice]

Kenny, sorry chuckling as I write because reading your other topics you really seem to be having a hard time with any procedure in Thailand and it can be very frustrating.

Did you specifically ask for the bike to be registered in your name?

If you didn't supply a confirmed address (Tabian Baan, Cert of Residence or Thai Driving Licence) then the dealer would have to register the bike in your g/f name.

I know your struggling to get a Tabian Baan at the moment, but a Thai driving licence is accepted by many (not all) as proof of ID and residency. It has name and passport number on the front and address on the rear.

Of course you'll need another 'Certificate of Residency' letter to get a Thai Driving Licence.

One thing you will learn is to check any documentation returned to you before you leave the office for correctness.

That goes for Immigration who can put wrong dates, or in one situation I had, the Amphur had to print off 3 Tabian Baans to get the details correct. The translated details were correct, they just made typo errors first on my name, then my address.

Edited August 25, 2015 by Faz

[oneday]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

You must not be in Pattaya. In Pattaya you DO NOT have to get the bike inspected given the conditions I stated in my post. I guess you just have to chalk it up to Thailand does not do anything standard within the same government department. I'm willing to bet they DID NOT need to inspect it per the laws on Thailand books, but I'm sure they would like to have more money and so they put you through an unneeded inspection.

Since you do not want to use a P.R.B. office to assist you then I will not repeat myself.

[Kenny202]

Kenny, sorry chuckling as I write because reading your other topics you really seem to be having a hard time with any procedure in Thailand and it can be very frustrating.

Did you specifically ask for the bike to be registered in your name?

If you didn't supply a confirmed address (Tabian Baan, Cert of Residence or Thai Driving Licence) then the dealer would have to register the bike in your g/f name.

I know your struggling to get a Tabian Baan at the moment, but a Thai driving licence is accepted by many (not all) as proof of ID and residency. It has name and passport number on the front and address on the rear.

Of course you'll need another 'Certificate of Residency' letter to get a Thai Driving Licence.

One thing you will learn is to check any documentation returned to you before you leave the office for correctness.

That goes for Immigration who can put wrong dates, or in one situation I had, the Amphur had to print off 3 Tabian Baans to get the details correct. The translated details were correct, they just made typo errors first on my name, then my address.

Yes it seems particularly difficult to do anything in my particular area govt wise. I have all my vehicles registered in my name (I'm not ending up like Pete on Private Dancer :-( ) except this one. It was a good deal and I just cudnt be bothered buggerising around getting the 3 month certificate of Residency of the Amphur head dressed up like a 5 star general. I thought better of it later and hence the reason for the tfer (I love that bike). I have tried to use my Thai drivers license for these things ad nauseum same as u wud in any other country in the world. No go. I have had the experience of leaving with incorrect forms to so very careful. Even though they'll make u jump through fire, provide everything in triplicate and return paperwork to you 24 times for correction they don't seem to careful themselves. Been there with everything several times and have the tshirts but thanks for the advice

[Kenny202]

Double post sorry

Edited August 25, 2015 by Kenny202

[oneday]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

"the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check"

​They are checking to see if the bike is stolen. Why are you of the belief that bikes with low mileage would not be stolen?

A previous poster mentioned if the bike is under 5 years inspection not necesary. That's why

That is related to yearly registration renewal, not to sales inspection.

This is not true "stevenl".

Let me see if I can make this clearer. I did a name change from my name to my GF's name, just exactly like the OP is doing, except he did it from her name to his, and I DID NOT have to have my bike inspected. I did this on a bike and a car and NEITHER had to be inspected, unless they have changed the rules sometime this year (2015) or his land department just wants to make more money.

[Kenny202]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

You must not be in Pattaya. In Pattaya you DO NOT have to get the bike inspected given the conditions I stated in my post. I guess you just have to chalk it up to Thailand does not do anything standard within the same government department. I'm willing to bet they DID NOT need to inspect it per the laws on Thailand books, but I'm sure they would like to have more money and so they put you through an unneeded inspection.

Since you do not want to use a P.R.B. office to assist you then I will not repeat myself.

Yes many things here are a lot more difficult here than Pattaya simply because they don't have the farang population or knowledge here. As I said the transfer experience yesterday was quite pleasant and dare I say it efficient. No battle of wills with officials who don't want to lose face by admitting they're not sure. And 100% right re procedures vary from office to office hence the reason for 90% of the arguments and conflicts on TV of people claiming to know for sure. Going in and quoting govt acts or procedures won't get you anywhere either apart from drawing the ire of Ur particular official. All part of the excitement of living in a strange land

[Kenny202]

Well threw the bike on the pick up and they did want to inspect it. I had all the docs re resident certificate, copies of passport etc so even though around 2 hours it was rather smooth and a lot more stress free than other encounters I've had (driving license etc). By the way...the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check. Cost tfer 250 baht all finished 2 hours and green book in my name. Will try PRB next time.

By the way, in future if I was to buy a bike or car privately, I was under the assumption the seller fills out his part of the form, gives me the green book and I hand over the cash. Then I sort it with the transport dept. I see someone else here said the buyer and the seller go together?

What's the normal procedure?

"the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check"

​They are checking to see if the bike is stolen. Why are you of the belief that bikes with low mileage would not be stolen?

A previous poster mentioned if the bike is under 5 years inspection not necesary. That's why

That is related to yearly registration renewal, not to sales inspection.

This is not true "stevenl".

Let me see if I can make this clearer. I did a name change from my name to my GF's name, just exactly like the OP is doing, except he did it from her name to his, and I DID NOT have to have my bike inspected. I did this on a bike and a car and NEITHER had to be inspected, unless they have changed the rules sometime this year (2015) or his land department just wants to make more money.

This means u were lucky. It doesn't mean ur right or he's right. Every experience I have had here has been slightly or radically different to others experiences here. Just the way it is. Offices don't seem to be on a common network so you seem to be at the mercy of the particular individual u are dealing with and their knowledge of procedures

[stevenl]

"the bike is a year old and 3000ks. They still wanted to check"

​They are checking to see if the bike is stolen. Why are you of the belief that bikes with low mileage would not be stolen?

A previous poster mentioned if the bike is under 5 years inspection not necesary. That's why

That is related to yearly registration renewal, not to sales inspection.

This is not true "stevenl".

Let me see if I can make this clearer. I did a name change from my name to my GF's name, just exactly like the OP is doing, except he did it from her name to his, and I DID NOT have to have my bike inspected. I did this on a bike and a car and NEITHER had to be inspected, unless they have changed the rules sometime this year (2015) or his land department just wants to make more money.

Yes, that's what I said. The inspection is related to the yearly registration renewal.

Thanks for confirming my post, pity you start with 'that is not true'.

[Liquorice]

Every province in Thailand seems to be autonomous.

Whilst they follow the law, they lay down there own procedures to comply with the law, therefore a lot of answers can only relate to personal experiences within a Province, but the procedures will vary throughout Thailand, as will the experiences.

[Furryman]

One thing you will learn is to check any documentation returned to you before you leave the office for correctness.

That goes for Immigration who can put wrong dates, or in one situation I had, the Amphur had to print off 3 Tabian Baans to get the details correct. The translated details were correct, they just made typo errors first on my name, then my address.

That's good advice for so many dealings in Thailand, with government offices or other entities. Saw a post recently about a guy having troubles caused by a typo on some marriage documents, something he did not see until long after he had the documents in hand. I've learned to never step too far away after getting documents back until I have closely double checked them.

Every province in Thailand seems to be autonomous.

Whilst they follow the law, they lay down there own procedures to comply with the law, therefore a lot of answers can only relate to personal experiences within a Province, but the procedures will vary throughout Thailand, as will the experiences.

It seems easiest to expect and prepare for the worst when doing paperwork tasks in Thailand, then you can only be pleasantly surprised.

[Kenny202]

One thing you will learn is to check any documentation returned to you before you leave the office for correctness.

That goes for Immigration who can put wrong dates, or in one situation I had, the Amphur had to print off 3 Tabian Baans to get the details correct. The translated details were correct, they just made typo errors first on my name, then my address.

That's good advice for so many dealings in Thailand, with government offices or other entities. Saw a post recently about a guy having troubles caused by a typo on some marriage documents, something he did not see until long after he had the documents in hand. I've learned to never step too far away after getting documents back until I have closely double checked them.

Every province in Thailand seems to be autonomous.

Whilst they follow the law, they lay down there own procedures to comply with the law, therefore a lot of answers can only relate to personal experiences within a Province, but the procedures will vary throughout Thailand, as will the experiences.

It seems easiest to expect and prepare for the worst when doing paperwork tasks in Thailand, then you can only be pleasantly surprised.

was only telling my missus the same thing this morning :-)