US is now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

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We're now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015
By Christopher Ingraham
The Washington Post

WASHINGTON: -- Aug. 26 is the 238th day of the year. And with the fatal shooting in Virginia today — in which a gunman shot himself after killing two reporters and wounding one more person — plus the shooting of four during a Minneapolis home invasion, the number of mass shooting incidents has risen to 247 for the year.

These numbers are compiled by the moderators of the GunsAreCool subreddit, a sarcastically named community that tracks gun violence in America. They define "mass shooting" as any single incident in which at least four people are shot, including the gunman.

The tracker comes in for some criticism because its definition is broader than the FBI's definition, which requires three or more people to be killed by gunfire.

But the broader definition is nonetheless a useful one, because it captures many high-profile instances of violence — like the recent Lafayette theater shootings — that don't meet the FBI's criteria.

Full story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/08/26/were-now-averaging-more-than-one-mass-shooting-per-day-in-2015/

-- The Washington Post 2015-08-28

[HeijoshinCool]

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We're now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

Pure bullshit.

[Seastallion]

4 or more people to be shot is indeed a more accurate definition of mass shooting. FBI takes it as 3 or more killed by shooting.

I wonder what the figure would be if the FBI used the word "shot" literally, ie, 3 or more people shot, not necessarily killed. Obviously more than one incident per day, on average.

A shocking statistic.

Cue defenders of the right to bear arms. Their irrational arguments actually bear testimony to the demograph's average IQ.

[Seastallion]

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We're now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

Pure bullshit.

You base that on what?

[Ulysses G.]

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We're now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

Pure bullshit.

One shooting per day might be believable. One mass shooting per day sounds like "pure bullshit" indeed.

[robblok]

The US a failed country.

In the Netherlands we had 3 murders per week (most of them not gun related)

Think something is seriously wrong there, the US and Thailand look quite similar.

[HeijoshinCool]

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We're now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

Pure bullshit.

You base that on what?

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R-E-A-L-I-T-Y

The times they are changing. And the day is coming when this will be an accurate statistic. But right now, it is bullshit.

[robblok]

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We're now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

Pure bullshit.

One shooting per day might be believable. One mass shooting per day sounds like "pure bullshit" indeed.

Figurers dont lie you guys had 14,196 murders in 2013, even if half of those were gun related (real low for the US) then you got far more then one per day

[Ulysses G.]

That has little to do with "MASS SHOOTINGS" - which is the topic of the thread.

Edited August 28, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[robblok]

That has little to do with "MASS SHOOTINGS" which is the topic of the thread.

You downplayed it from mass shooting to shooting that 1 shooting a day was believable.. i said you were wrong and showed you how wrong you were.

Sorry mate facts are facts.

[HeijoshinCool]

So you simply automatically believe what you read on the internet?

I have always given you more credit than that.

My bad.

[robblok]

So you simply automatically believe what you read on the internet?

I have always given you more credit than that.

My bad.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/november/crime-statistics-for-2013-released/crime-statistics-for-2013-released

I do when it comes from your own government, instead of users like you

[Seastallion]

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We're now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015

Pure bullshit.

You base that on what?

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R-E-A-L-I-T-Y

The times they are changing. And the day is coming when this will be an accurate statistic. But right now, it is bullshit.

And your reality comes from...????

NOT being aware of the actual figures?

If you're going to call bullshit, you should have some reliable figures to counter the OP claim, not just your imagination.

I'd love you to prove this is BS. Really. It's such a shocking statistic that I would much prefer it to be wrong.

[Farma]

A well timed thread. As I type this another US university is currently on lockdown in yet another shooting. Savannah State University campus in Georgia.

[55Jay]

I wonder if the sarcastic subreddit group is from England or some other European utopia. They are obsessed with this topic, perhaps as a way to avoid thinking about their own lot in life.

[Seastallion]

So you simply automatically believe what you read on the internet?

I have always given you more credit than that.

My bad.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/november/crime-statistics-for-2013-released/crime-statistics-for-2013-released

I do when it comes from your own government, instead of users like you

Your link shows the figure of 69% of those murders were by firearm, ie 27 per day.

Does it really matter, with atrocious numbers like that, if it was 27 separate incidents or one mass shooting/killing of 27 people?

[Seastallion]

I wonder if the sarcastic subreddit group is from England or some other European utopia. They are obsessed with this topic, perhaps as a way to avoid thinking about their own lot in life.

With 27 firearm murders per day, I would assume that their concern is for human life.

[Ulysses G.]

So you simply automatically believe what you read on the internet?

I have always given you more credit than that.

My bad.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/november/crime-statistics-for-2013-released/crime-statistics-for-2013-released

I do when it comes from your own government, instead of users like you

That chart shows that there has been a downward progression in the number of reported violent crimes - less violent crime - over the past five years (ending with 2013). It has nothing to do with "mass shootings".

Edited August 28, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[robblok]

I wonder if the sarcastic subreddit group is from England or some other European utopia. They are obsessed with this topic, perhaps as a way to avoid thinking about their own lot in life.

Im Dutch, you mean we can't comment on the fact that the US is a crazy dangerous place with many gun deaths and idiots with guns ?

I guess we also can't comment on the US police shooting black for no reason at all ?

When something is based on facts I would not call it bashing.

Please find things wrong with my country and you probably will see me agreeing with you as I don't close my eyes to the faults in my country. Because every country has its faults. But the shootings like this in the US are starting to become the norm.

[robblok]

So you simply automatically believe what you read on the internet?

I have always given you more credit than that.

My bad.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/november/crime-statistics-for-2013-released/crime-statistics-for-2013-released

I do when it comes from your own government, instead of users like you

That chart shows that there has been a downward progression in the number of reported violent crimes over the past five years (ending with 2013). It has nothing to do with "mass shootings".

You said .. you did not believe 1 mass shooting a day but a normal shooting a day sounded real

I countered that by saying that its far more as that ans showing how many murders were committed and extrapolated that for many of those a gun was used making it a shooting.

By doing so showing that your shooting number of 1 a day was far to low. Now do you get it ?

[55Jay]

The US a failed country.

In the Netherlands we had 3 murders per week (most of them not gun related)

Think something is seriously wrong there, the US and Thailand look quite similar.

When someone from a unimportant country like the Netherlands calls the US a failed country, I have to laugh. The irony here is you chose to leave there and live in a really screwed up country like Thailand, which, in your opinion, ranks right down there with America.

Go back to humping and pumping.

[55Jay]

I wonder if the sarcastic subreddit group is from England or some other European utopia. They are obsessed with this topic, perhaps as a way to avoid thinking about their own lot in life.

With 27 firearm murders per day, I would assume that their concern is for human life.

Oh yeah, sure it is. LOL.

[Ulysses G.]

I guess we also can't comment on the US police shooting black for no reason at all ?

You can comment all you want, but it happens very infrequently. Usually the police shoot blacks in self defense - like the Michael Brown case.

[2fishin2]

Here we go another thread to bash americans....thanks TV

[HeijoshinCool]

So you simply automatically believe what you read on the internet?

I have always given you more credit than that.

My bad.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/november/crime-statistics-for-2013-released/crime-statistics-for-2013-released

I do when it comes from your own government, instead of users like you

That chart shows that there has been a downward progression in the number of reported violent crimes - less violent crime - over the past five years (ending with 2013). It has nothing to do with "mass shootings".

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Dude, we are wasting our time here. Stop arguing with these ill-informed fanatics and let them have the topic all to themselves.

Then watch how quickly the thread will die.

[Ulysses G.]

By doing so showing that your shooting number of 1 a day was far to low. Now do you get it ?

It is not "my number". I simply said that it sounded believable. No one denied that there were one or more shootings per day in the whole country. They said that one mass shooting per day sounds unrealistic and no one on this thread has offered evidence to prove otherwise, using the FBI's definition.

Edited August 28, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[JoePai]

Here we go another thread to bash americans....thanks TV

Agree fully - why bash them, let them carry on killing themselves off - what business is it to the rest of the world.

[robblok]

The US a failed country.

In the Netherlands we had 3 murders per week (most of them not gun related)

Think something is seriously wrong there, the US and Thailand look quite similar.

When someone from a unimportant country like the Netherlands calls the US a failed country, I have to laugh. The irony here is you chose to leave there and live in a really screwed up country like Thailand, which, in your opinion, ranks right down there with America.

Go back to humping and pumping.

And you think I would care you call my country unimportant. Damm you don't even know your own history, we owned part of Manhattan.

Its always fun to see those flag wavers getting all worked up when their country gets some bad press. You can comment all you want on my country and plenty of would be probably be true. Unlike you I would not be defending the bad things of my country but expressing concern and complaining about it.

Yes Thailand is far more screwed up than America and i like it here, but I don't see the relevance.

Fact is you got some serious problems over there with guns among other things. Instead of acknowledging it you guys are downplaying it.

[robblok]

By doing so showing that your shooting number of 1 a day was far to low. Now do you get it ?

It is not "my number". I simply said that it sounded believable. No one denied that there were one or more shootings per day. They said that one mass shooting per day sounds unrealistic and no one on this thread has offered evidence to prove otherwise.

You said one mass shooting was unbelievable but 1 shooting (and i see that as a normal shooting) was, but i just showed you there were far more then 1 shooting a day (only counting those where they end fatally).

I might believe you (or want to believe you) that 1 mass shooting a day is off because if it is not then the problem is even worse as I thought it is.

[Ulysses G.]

You keep deflecting to your own Red Herring. We are arguing about mass shootings, not single ones.