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Just you I think....but some are miserable & some not.

I had a thai man help me with something only yesterday, didn't ask him, but he could see I needed some assistance. He spent about an hour helping me, I offered him some money & he just smiled & said no thanks.

In general I find most Thai people friendly & compassionate

Unlike so many sour Europeans - of which I am one. European,that is.

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When I am in a good mood and smiling people normally return a smile and are friendly. When I am moody and serious people don't smile and basically ignore me. Being aware of this I normally try to smile all the time thus bringing out the friendliness in others.

Some people however are just angry with the world and I say just ignore them. If you have to deal with them try to smile anyway and at lease you have tried.

Thais are under a lot of pressure now. Money is tight and the fun times of spending and putting everything on your credit card is over. Sometimes hard to smile :(

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They now only smile if there is money in it.

Please don't generalise because what you have said simply isn't true.

Where YOU live in Thailand they might only smile for you but for many farangs the opposite applies.

Now where I live in rural Thailand I see Thais every day up here and I always get a smile, and it is genuine too. If I am on my motorbike I get waved at as well.

I was in Nakhon Sawan yesterday walking past a food stall and I saw a Thai lady of about 45 or so giving her friend a neck massage so I jokingly asked if she would give me a neck massage too. She gave me a neck and shoulders massage for about 15 minutes and would not take any money at all. I gave her my best wai in gratitude and got the biggest smile I have seen in a while.

Perhaps you and your attitude may be the problem.

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So now we're telling Thai people they should stay out of a city in Thailand?

You couldn't make this place up.

I would suggest any person who doesn't like where they live to move to a better place. It doesn't just apply to the Thais. Kind of the same reason why you would never live in Pattaya.

Although it is not common for me to see, I have witnessed some of the rudest behavior towards me in my lifetime here in Thailand. It is clear that these individuals showed HATE towards me, even though I did not do anything that warranted this treatment. Those individuals should probably not be providing services (food vendor, taxi driver..etc) in a tourist area if they do not like interacting with foreigners.

As a whole I find those occurrences to be few and far between, but they are so vivid in my memory. Overall I am happy with Thailand and find most Thai people to be as polite or more polite than any stranger back home.

Posted (edited)

The only negativity I routinely experience in Thailand -- other than from my Thai neighbors on account of their dogs -- is on this website. Since one most likely will have to deal with some negativity from somewhere in one's life, this website is a good place for it to occur.

Edited by JLCrab
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No I think it's just you. The Thais I interact with are as kind and pleasant as ever. Of course, I don't have to walk through bar areas to get to my home so that may have something to do with it.

Same for me,

I don't interact with any Thais that make money off white foreigners.

Everyone around me blames the general and pray for the return of Thaksin.

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The only negativity I routinely experience in Thailand -- other than from my Thai neighbors on account of their dogs -- is on this website. Since one most likely have to deal with some negativity from somewhere in one's life, this website is a good place for it to occur.

From a guy that constantly fights with all his neighbors over dog pooh. .......... 555!

They all hate you ..... the poor economy hasn't changed their hatred of you.

Posted (edited)

The only negativity I routinely experience in Thailand -- other than from my Thai neighbors on account of their dogs -- is on this website. Since one most likely have to deal with some negativity from somewhere in one's life, this website is a good place for it to occur.

From a guy that constantly fights with all his neighbors over dog pooh. .......... 555!

They all hate you ..... the poor economy hasn't changed their hatred of you.

That's OK. There is a high turnover in those houses. The one house has had 5 different occupants since I moved in. I got along fine with any of the occupants who didn't have dogs. And I don't constantly fight ... I just wait for their dogs to get run over as we live on a long rural straight away and it tuns into the local drag strip. Big dog turnover as well.

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How do you know they dislike all foreigners, and not just you?

So your stance is that no Thai people in tourist areas dislike foreigners?

Like I mentioned in my reply, most Thai people I interact with are polite. A very small percentage have been extremely rude to me and since my behavior is fairly consistent between the ones who are polite and the ones that are rude, I would have to deduce that maybe they hate me because I am a foreigner. Maybe there is another reason, but this seems to be pretty logical. And when someone screams F you you F'ing Farang directly to your face, it is pretty clear what their opinion of foreigners are in general.

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That's a rather odd conclusion to draw from my post.

So what kind of point are you trying to make then? Just try and point out that even though 99% of the Thais I meet are polite to me, that somehow I am doing something to anger the rare cases that get angry for no apparent reason?

Do you think that some Thais hate foreigners simply because they are foreigners or not?

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No I think it's just you. The Thais I interact with are as kind and pleasant as ever. Of course, I don't have to walk through bar areas to get to my home so that may have something to do with it.

Agree. Has nothing to do with the Thais. It's the OP. Let's see if he has the courage to admit that it's him. But I doubt it very much.

sorry I was born, but I was minding my own business when these people confronted me for no reason at all, if you think harassing strangers is ok go for it but you wont make many friends

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walking through a bar to get home - gross

thai lady has probably had a gutsful of rude drunken foreigner pigs as so many tend to be with a skinful,

i find thais to be so friendly and nice but then that may have something to do with whom and where i spend my time, and it most certainly is not with drunkard expats

were does it say I was drunk? its an empty beer bar complex with one remaining bar in it which I dont go near, maybe the rest went out of business because they were rude to people

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That's a rather odd conclusion to draw from my post.

So what kind of point are you trying to make then? Just try and point out that even though 99% of the Thais I meet are polite to me, that somehow I am doing something to anger the rare cases that get angry for no apparent reason?

Do you think that some Thais hate foreigners simply because they are foreigners or not?

They're always nice to me.

Even if someone took a dislike to me, I wouldn't draw a generalised conclusion that they disliked all foreigners.

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That's a rather odd conclusion to draw from my post.

So what kind of point are you trying to make then? Just try and point out that even though 99% of the Thais I meet are polite to me, that somehow I am doing something to anger the rare cases that get angry for no apparent reason?

Do you think that some Thais hate foreigners simply because they are foreigners or not?

They're always nice to me.

Even if someone took a dislike to me, I wouldn't draw a generalised conclusion that they disliked all foreigners.

  1. They are always nice to you? Never had a Thai be rude to you the whole time you have lived here?
  2. Do you live in a tourist area like Pattaya where there are a lot of foreigners that are rude to the Thais?
  3. If someone said to your face F you, you F'ing Farang , you would conclude that you being foreign had nothing to do with their reaction?
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Thais in general have every reason to be unhappy. Life is a constant struggle for many.

If you live away from a cesspool tourist dive however, you will be amazed daily at the number of people who smile and are nice to you.

If you smiled at a stranger walking down the street in my western home town..you would probably get a smack in the mouth.

Posted (edited)

I'm on the fence on the question of walking around being over-smiley.

Temperamentally, I do like to smile and see smiles, but my rational side thinks the Russian view of smiling makes sense.

Seeing people who smile at strangers a lot for no apparent reason as mentally deficient (putting it politely).

Edited by Jingthing
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don't try to learn Thai, immigration think you are working.

less you know better it is.

be like a UK refugee.

Even if this were true (which it isn't), the logical response would be: "Don't speak Thai at Immigration" not, "Don't try to learn Thai at all."

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don't try to learn Thai, immigration think you are working.

less you know better it is.

be like a UK refugee.

be like a UK refugee. What!! and deliberately lose my passport.

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don't try to learn Thai, immigration think you are working.

less you know better it is.

be like a UK refugee.

be like a UK refugee. What!! and deliberately lose my passport.

A tactic regularly suggested on here to attempt to evade the Thai immigration authorities. So let's not get on our high horse, eh?

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Have you considered making a change in residential location? You stay in the bar-girl, ThaiGuy hustler environment, but you expect that level of Thai people to be polite and courteous to you, especially after someone (Thai) has apparently bad-mouthed you, for some reason. If you've earned the "Cheap-Charlie" reputation, among the local bar-girls, then the smiling faces will definitely disappear. Water seeks it's own level, chappy!

Posted (edited)

don't try to learn Thai, immigration think you are working.

less you know better it is.

be like a UK refugee.

Even if this were true (which it isn't), the logical response would be: "Don't speak Thai at Immigration" not, "Don't try to learn Thai at all."

The Baht in your pocket, speaks all the Thai that you ever need to speak. Thais are interested in your money, not your personhood. If you are a retired expat, then endeavor to learn how to understand the Thai language (for heads-up leverage purposes), not to speak it.coffee1.gif

Edited by NativeSon360
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I'm on the fence on the question of walking around being over-smiley.

Temperamentally, I do like to smile and see smiles, but my rational side thinks the Russian view of smiling makes sense.

Seeing people who smile at strangers a lot for no apparent reason as mentally deficient (putting it politely).

Exactamundo!

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