webfact Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Govt cautions against 'red' campaign in support of YingluckJEERAPONG PRASERTPOLKRUNG,WASAMON AUDJARINT,NATCHA ORAVEERAKULTHE NATIONPHEU THAI, UDD LEADERS DENY ROLE IN RALLY PLANNED FOR NOV 1BANGKOK: -- THE GOVERNMENT has warned the public to exercise proper judgement over whether to stage a symbolic protest by wearing red on November 1 in support of former premier Yingluck Shinawatra.The government yesterday called on the public to decide for themselves whether it was right for supporters of the embattled former prime minister to wear red in order to show their backing for her.Government Spokesman Maj-General Sansern Kaewkamnerd said yesterday that Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has been aware of the ongoing online campaign for Yingluck's supporters to wear red on that particular day.The government called on the people to judge whether it was proper to "divide people with political colours again", according to the spokesman."By asking people to wear a particular colour of dress, will this cause social division again?" Sansern asked. "The government will focus on justice procedures and not on verbal arguments and attacks.''Red is the colour of United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, which supports Yingluck's Pheu Thai Party.Yingluck is facing a civil liability action in relation to her government's corruption-plagued rice pledging scheme. She is countering the government's move to seek damages from her for losses of more than Bt500 billion suffered by the state as a result of the project.Key red-shirt leaders and Pheu Thai politicians yesterday denied they were behind or involved with the campaign for symbolic protest.The Pheu Thai Party has not initiated or heard of the campaign, the party's caretaker deputy spokesperson Anusorn Iamsa-ard said. The party would also not join the campaign, if it happens, as the NCPO has prohibited citizens from mass political gatherings, he said.UDD spokesman Thanawut Wichaidit denied that the front was behind the campaign to wear red on November 1."We have not reached such a decision. We believe the move stems from groups in social media,'' he said.Worachai Hema, a UDD leader and Pheu Thai politician, yesterday said he had learned about this campaign from social media and the UDD had nothing to do with it. "We did not start this campaign," he said.However, he added that there was nothing wrong with wearing red to offer moral support to Yingluck.He said that prohibiting people from wearing red would be "too much restriction" on people's rights. "If they want to, the prime minister may exercise his power under Article 44 by banning people from wearing red on November 1. Let's see red not worn anywhere in this country," he said.Thida Thavornseth, former chairperson of the UDD, also said yesterday that the group has not initiated a campaign asking people to wear red on November 1, in support of Yingluck.The UDD has not heard of the matter, Thida added, nor discussed whether to join the campaign.Yingluck's lawyer, Norrawit Larlaeng, said he has not been able to consider any legal consequences from the campaign, if it happens, as he has not heard of such a thing before.Despite the comment by the PM, National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) spokesman Colonel Winthai Suvari yesterday said there has not been any order or report within the NCPO regarding the matter.Weng Tojirakarn, a Pheu Thai politician and key UDD figure, said yesterday he had not heard of the campaign to wear red in support of Yingluck. He said he was unlikely to join the campaign.UDD president Jatuporn Prompan insisted that the group had made no moves. "I did not call a meeting of the UDD. I assure you that the UDD has no appointment at this time," he said.Most other red-shirt figures reached by The Nation yesterday said they were unaware of the campaign.In a related development, Yingluck yesterday visited several temples in Ratchaburi under close monitoring and surveillance by plainclothes and uniformed military personnel. Yingluck's close aides said the ex-PM was also under military surveillance while she attended religious rites in Udon Thani and Nong Khai on Tuesday. Military men also informed her that she was not allowed to carry out such activities.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Govt-cautions-against-red-campaign-in-support-of-Y-30271435.html-- The Nation 2015-10-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 A practical solution would be for the reds to campaign in support of all thieves, not just the Shinawatra thieves. Fair enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 A practical solution would be for the reds to campaign in support of all thieves, not just the Shinawatra thieves. Fair enough? They campaign to support their own thieves, not all thieves. They call it electioneering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 people can wear what they want - for a small donation lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 TS must have organised a large supply of 500bt notes to hand out. No wonder I get a stack of 100bt notes when I pay for my beer with a 1,000bt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Town Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Why such hate? Its clear the prosecution of Yingluck is more persecution than justice. Everyone in the entire world knows that, including everyone in Thailand. It is aimed at her brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldgit Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 A number of bickering posts removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJazz Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I don't know who advise this government but if they were trying to create a Thailand Aung San Suu Kyi, that would be the most efficient way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The government should just go the whole hog and ban any coloured shirts at all , be they red , yellow , green or whatever. Such a move would promote reconciliation. Instead of colors they could have 50 shades of grey.This would be in line with the kind of utopia Prayuth has in mind for Thailands future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I don't know who advise this government but if they were trying to create a Thailand Aung San Suu Kyi, that would be the most efficient way. To be fair I think the General is well aware of that and there is evidence to that effect.Like most of the upper levels of the elite there is no personal animosity on his part toward Yingluck (she had a good relationship with Prem and the palace) rather a determination that the Shinawatra clan's influence will end forever.The attitude towards Yingluck is also tempered with fear because she remains by some considerable distance the most popular politician in the Kingdom. As an important aside most thoughtful people know that the eradication of Shinawatra influence would not actually solve the problem.It's quite possible that in years to come traditionalists will curse their predecessors for not doing a deal with Thaksin who actually shared most of their values.In other words the alternative (think Chavez) could be a great deal worse. The problem Prayuth faces in coming to a sensible arrangement with Yingluck is the small but influential bunch of reactionary crazies who wrap themselves in the flag and royalist rhetoric.They cannot be easily silenced and have the capacity to wreck any lasting compromise deal. A more ruthless political culture like that of China or the old Soviet Union would have a way of dealing with these fanatics but that option is not yet open thank goodness in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The government should just go the whole hog and ban any coloured shirts at all , be they red , yellow , green or whatever. Such a move would promote reconciliation. Instead of colors they could have 50 shades of grey.This would be in line with the kind of utopia Prayuth has in mind for Thailands future. And everyone could walk down the street naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The government should just go the whole hog and ban any coloured shirts at all , be they red , yellow , green or whatever. Such a move would promote reconciliation. Instead of colors they could have 50 shades of grey.This would be in line with the kind of utopia Prayuth has in mind for Thailands future. "Prayuth has in mind" Are you suggesting this schoolboy have brains ? This junta is just a bunch of children playing soldier. Why they are so paranoid about Yinluck's movements, why are they so scared of her ? Maybe they understand she's an adult and they just the boy's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotEd Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 So now the Junta is going to outlaw political protest especially when it disagrees with them? That is know as a dictatorship. As long as persons wearing red shirts remain peaceful it should be allowed. However, I suspect they will be attacked by the forces of Suthep and, of course, the red shirts will be blamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Why such hate? Its clear the prosecution of Yingluck is more persecution than justice. Everyone in the entire world knows that, including everyone in Thailand. It is aimed at her brother. "Why such hate?" Because their beloved general is slowly but surely turning into a nightmare - even for the cheerleaders - so all they have left is the hate for Thaksin. Pathetic, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 A practical solution would be for the reds to campaign in support of all thieves, not just the Shinawatra thieves. Fair enough? They campaign to support their own thieves, not all thieves. They call it electioneering. Stupid reds. Actually wanting to have the right to vote! How pretentious is that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I don't know who advise this government but if they were trying to create a Thailand Aung San Suu Kyi, that would be the most efficient way. To be fair I think the General is well aware of that and there is evidence to that effect.Like most of the upper levels of the elite there is no personal animosity on his part toward Yingluck (she had a good relationship with Prem and the palace) rather a determination that the Shinawatra clan's influence will end forever.The attitude towards Yingluck is also tempered with fear because she remains by some considerable distance the most popular politician in the Kingdom. As an important aside most thoughtful people know that the eradication of Shinawatra influence would not actually solve the problem.It's quite possible that in years to come traditionalists will curse their predecessors for not doing a deal with Thaksin who actually shared most of their values.In other words the alternative (think Chavez) could be a great deal worse. The problem Prayuth faces in coming to a sensible arrangement with Yingluck is the small but influential bunch of reactionary crazies who wrap themselves in the flag and royalist rhetoric.They cannot be easily silenced and have the capacity to wreck any lasting compromise deal. A more ruthless political culture like that of China or the old Soviet Union would have a way of dealing with these fanatics but that option is not yet open thank goodness in Thailand. "....there is no personal animosity on his part toward Yingluck (she had a good relationship with Prem...." This not so much about Yingluck, but more about Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The army reacting to this symbolic demonstration will only amplify it. It spreads the word and gets more people involved - now where did I put my red shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I don't know who advise this government but if they were trying to create a Thailand Aung San Suu Kyi, that would be the most efficient way. Aung San Suu Kyi has class Yingluck has...cellulitis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I don't know who advise this government but if they were trying to create a Thailand Aung San Suu Kyi, that would be the most efficient way. To be fair I think the General is well aware of that and there is evidence to that effect.Like most of the upper levels of the elite there is no personal animosity on his part toward Yingluck (she had a good relationship with Prem and the palace) rather a determination that the Shinawatra clan's influence will end forever.The attitude towards Yingluck is also tempered with fear because she remains by some considerable distance the most popular politician in the Kingdom. As an important aside most thoughtful people know that the eradication of Shinawatra influence would not actually solve the problem.It's quite possible that in years to come traditionalists will curse their predecessors for not doing a deal with Thaksin who actually shared most of their values.In other words the alternative (think Chavez) could be a great deal worse. The problem Prayuth faces in coming to a sensible arrangement with Yingluck is the small but influential bunch of reactionary crazies who wrap themselves in the flag and royalist rhetoric.They cannot be easily silenced and have the capacity to wreck any lasting compromise deal. A more ruthless political culture like that of China or the old Soviet Union would have a way of dealing with these fanatics but that option is not yet open thank goodness in Thailand. Thaksins only influence with the people is monetary, and to refine that further the red leadership, look into the finances of the red leaders and all will be revealed, that is what is at stake, if Thaksin is wiped then so is the money, ironically Thaksins empire was built on corruption, he took the money from the Thai people using his political influence - exactly why he should be in jail, more recently he tried to buy the farmers and that imploded and his political rag doll is going to fall for that one In Thailand it is all about money, I have said this many times and don't mind repeating it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 "The government called on the people to judge whether it was proper to "divide people with political colours again", according to the spokesman."The Coup and this Government have done the whole time nothing else than dividing the people with political colors.Start to treating everybody equally and you will maybe get a little bit more credibility. Start to sue the guys behind the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Education and stop harassing others. "In a related development, Yingluck yesterday visited several temples in Ratchaburi under close monitoring and surveillance by plainclothes and uniformed military personnel. Yingluck's close aides said the ex-PM was also under military surveillance while she attended religious rites in Udon Thani and Nong Khai on Tuesday. Military men also informed her that she was not allowed to carry out such activities."Why can Yingluck not attend religious rites?Is she not Buddhist? Shows what this Government is up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 A practical solution would be for the reds to campaign in support of all thieves, not just the Shinawatra thieves. Fair enough? They campaign to support their own thieves, not all thieves. They call it electioneering. Your bitterness at the direction the LOS is going has no end. If only you ddn't share it with us because your Comments never inform us readers on this thread or any other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockatoowho Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 What is your problem General / PM, you have been bringing happiness to the people with your boring rhetoric week in and week out, your fixed polls have you in favour at at 90% plus, and you have even made the lottery cheaper even though gambling is illegal. Lets not forget also that you have single handedly provided the solution to stamp out under-age drinking by banning alcohol near schools even though many lost their livelihoods and a lot of money. Also you are going to make it cheaper to use the internet with your single gateway promise; so why would you be worried about a few red garments when everyone are lying down at your feet. I can always ask my wife to not wear her sexy red Victoria Secret's sheer lingerie as I am only a farang, and farangs don't have any rights in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Man in military uniform discourages others from wearing symbolic clothing, as it might cause division within society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Why such hate? Its clear the prosecution of Yingluck is more persecution than justice. Everyone in the entire world knows that, including everyone in Thailand. It is aimed at her brother. quote "Everyone in the entire world knows that, including everyone in Thailand." Are you quite sure that every person in the entire world knows? Is that called poetic licence, exaggeration or what. You would probably find that of the estimated In demographics, the world population is the total number of humans living on Earth. As of July 2015, it was estimated at 7.3 billion.[1] The United Nations estimates it will increase to 11.2 billion in the year 2100.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population Of that 7.3 billion people over 6 billion have never heard of Thailand and of the rest perhaps 90% (my guess) don't care either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Nobody claims responsibility for this campaign, and it seems few people outside of the government knew about it until the junta gave it all this free publicity. Are they really that stupid, or are they desperately trying to create an enemy/scapegoat to distract attention from their (lack of) performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 A practical solution would be for the reds to campaign in support of all thieves, not just the Shinawatra thieves. Fair enough? They campaign to support their own thieves, not all thieves. They call it electioneering. Stupid reds. Actually wanting to have the right to vote! How pretentious is that?! You mean: 'wanting the rights but not the moral duties that come with it'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I don't know who advise this government but if they were trying to create a Thailand Aung San Suu Kyi, that would be the most efficient way. Ha ha - that made me laugh. Oh wait, you're serious ?. Typical Thailand : they took someone else's idea then made an absolutely terrible copy which misses all the good points of the original. Funny how all the reds seem to start their 'protests' when it looks like the Shinwatra's might lose some money eh ? Jump Fido, jump. You do know Suu Kyi is not a soap start right ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Town Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Why such hate? Its clear the prosecution of Yingluck is more persecution than justice. Everyone in the entire world knows that, including everyone in Thailand. It is aimed at her brother. quote "Everyone in the entire world knows that, including everyone in Thailand." Are you quite sure that every person in the entire world knows? Is that called poetic licence, exaggeration or what. You would probably find that of the estimated In demographics, the world population is the total number of humans living on Earth. As of July 2015, it was estimated at 7.3 billion.[1] The United Nations estimates it will increase to 11.2 billion in the year 2100.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population Of that 7.3 billion people over 6 billion have never heard of Thailand and of the rest perhaps 90% (my guess) don't care either. Excuse me. Let me qualify my statement. Everyone in the entire world, that follows events in Thailand. Satisfied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJK Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 You can only support them no one else It's the way of the non democratic future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJK Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I not care I think it's wrong what they do to that lady and nothing to do with politics The world sees all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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