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English Muffins

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I tell people nobody ever heard of them, UK has crumpets however "same same, but different". Now I hear Sainsbury' carries them but they are just labeled "muffins". More confusion. How about calling them "breakfast muffins"?

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Breakfast muffin:

http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipes/tag-5549/breakfast-muffins.aspx?o_is=DH_4

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Crumpets:

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Totally different animals - both good for breakfast but I used to put crumpets on a long toasting fork and heat them up in front of a nice blazing coal fire for an evening treat.

(This was in the good old days when coal fires burned in every British home, providing the basic essentials of a pea-soup fog and infections brought about by the inhalation of soot particles by the million.

tutsi is with an english colleague in Jakarta in 1993 one evening after work who then sez: 'lets get us some of the local crumpet? wha???'

tutsi was confused as there was no toaster in sight and nowhere to put the butter...and he had already lived in the east midlands for over 2 years and was confused by the estuary accent...

earlier in the US NW woods in a breugel woodsmen in the snow scenario we toasted our sarnies over a fire with forked sticks at lunchtime...

tutsi is with an english colleague in Jakarta in 1993 one evening after work who then sez: 'lets get us some of the local crumpet? wha???'

tutsi was confused as there was no toaster in sight and nowhere to put the butter...and he had already lived in the east midlands for over 2 years and was confused by the estuary accent...

earlier in the US NW woods in a breugel woodsmen in the snow scenario we toasted our sarnies over a fire with forked sticks at lunchtime...

No - that type of crumpet does not need toasting - they're usually hot enough already.

And if that was Jakarta - then M district? Hotel M was always a good place to stay when I flew in from Padang.

In the snow ... It will be snowing here in the UK soon - we are preparing for that one-winter-in-fifty-years event this year. The holly is covered in berries, the Russian swans have flown in 30 days early, yadda yadda. My forked stick will help me get through the deep drifts, then I'll lay it down and fork off, heading for my wood-burner fire.

Breakfast muffin:

http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipes/tag-5549/breakfast-muffins.aspx?o_is=DH_4

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Crumpets:

http://www.bigfishenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/crumpet.jpg

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Totally different animals - both good for breakfast but I used to put crumpets on a long toasting fork and heat them up in front of a nice blazing coal fire for an evening treat.

(This was in the good old days when coal fires burned in every British home, providing the basic essentials of a pea-soup fog and infections brought about by the inhalation of soot particles by the million.

There's muffins, and there's English muffins.

The former are what's in your first photo and are usually sweet or fruity (but can be savoury such as zucchini and tomato muffins) and are more like a cupcake or scone, the latter are plain and used for savoury fillings (like the McDonald's bacon and egg McMuffin) and are more like a bread such as panini.

Well, that's how we see it down under.

Have you seen the muffin man who lives on Drury Lane?

As with many other things, in England we don't call them 'English'. The premier golf tournament is 'The Open' not 'The English/British Open'. Muffins are muffins - some sweet, some savoury, others plain.

Let's face it - almost everything worthwhile in this world - rugby, soccer, television, fish 'n chips, beating the French at anything, sending our criminals to far-away places, (the list is endless) - came from the (dis-)United Kingdom.

Bit of trivia for you...Fish'n'chips came from Spain via Jewish immigrants. Pisca frita, or some such.

The All Blacks do a pretty good job of beating the French.

Just saying.

The potato did not come into Europe until after Columbus sailed to the New World and Pissarro invaded South America. Before that we had parsnips and turnips to feed us. This was at the same time as Ferdinand and Isabella started their attack on the Jews (they had to convert by 2nd August 1492 - Colon left Huelva on 3rd August). Through the next score of years Jews and marranos (converts who concealed their adherence to Judaism) fled to many parts of Europe, but very few to England, from where they had been expelled 300 years earlier.

And the Spanish ruin the fish (cod) by preserving it in salt and then cooking it, calling it bacalao.

They don't make any decent beer-based batter, either.

The Kiwis will also beat the Wallabies next Saturday, by a country mile.

And French fries come from Belgium - and even then they are not as good as our nice chunky chips, crisp on the outside and beautifully fluffy inside. And a white pudding to help the fish 'n chips down, with just a dash of vinegar. Aaaahhh!

whaddaya do when yer in a campesino hut in way out rural Bolivia with some shrunken potatoes and local chiles?

ye grind up the chiles to make a sauce fer the tatties and then cover yer hands with chile juice toxic inflammation (just imagine what chiles do to yer insides...)

tutsi, who was 16 y.o. and ignorant suffered and then later went to his aunty Alicia (who expired in Cochabamba last week, oh, boo hoo mak mak..) holding out the inflammed hands in hopes of relief...Alicia looked then shouted at cousin Octavio ('Oto, Oto, cara de poto') 'why didn't you keep him away from de chiles??? ye goddam edjit!!!'

I was just trine to be authentic, inna indian hut with potatoes and chiles...but I was just young and it got away from me...

oh... decansa en paz, tia Alicia...te llora noche y dia...

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If I may offer my technical expertise in the area of crumpets . . .

Crumpets quite actually come in a variety of forms. There may also be remarkable differences in the manner in which they are served and eaten. Some varieties of crumpets are served warm, or toasted, for instance. Others are quite hot. Rather smoking hot in some cases. Different crumpets may be enjoyed with distinctive toppings as well.

To illustrate; the crumpet on the left generally is tastiest with a dollop of creamy butter. The crumpet on the right is exceedingly appetising with a dollop of fluffy whipped cream. As previously mentioned, the way in which they are eaten can be quite contrasting. One may be bitten into while another might be merely licked, both methodologies providing tremendous satisfication.

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It is not entirely known where crumpets originated, as they can be found all over the world, both in the present and in antiquity. Below is an example of a Thai crumpet found in the jungles of SE Asia.

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They are of a smaller variety, generally, and quite delicate. Perhaps not on the pocketbook, though. Crumpets can be rather inexpensive or they can literally consume small fortunes, depending on one's tastes.

Hopefully I have added meritoriously to ThaiVisa's knowledge base.

Cheers,

Tippaporn

Shades of my sister's childhood in the 1950s.

As a teenager then I was puzzled as to why anyone would be muffin' a mule.

Shades of my sister's childhood in the 1950s.

As a teenager then I was puzzled as to why anyone would be muffin' a mule.

well, humph...maybe it's sorta like 'muffin yer mule' sorta like the old slang 'waterin' yer mule' for urination...(mule + muff, etc)

We used the say "I'm going to water the horse".

It was quite common... the expression...

Well, watering the horse was as well.

There's a few expressions around for bodily functions, a friend, when heading for the cubicle says... "I'm off to fire a shot for king and country".

I'll bet THAT has Irish origins.

Amazing how a fine topic on scrumptious crumpets can morph into a discussion on the various expressions used for males urinating. blink.png

Carry on, but pass the crumpets, please . . . biggrin.png

We used the say "I'm going to water the horse".

It was quite common... the expression...

Well, watering the horse was as well.

There's a few expressions around for bodily functions, a friend, when heading for the cubicle says... "I'm off to fire a shot for king and country".

I'll bet THAT has Irish origins.

"Strangle the maggot" was the one that always gave me the starkest imagery.

"Bleed the lizard" was rather bizarre, I thought.

Wasn't me, Tutsi started it..... angry.png

Always the Americans . . . laugh.png

Wasn't me, Tutsi started it..... angry.png

you did!...you did!...there weren't no 'mules' around here before!!!

Amazing how a fine topic on scrumptious crumpets can morph into a discussion on the various expressions used for males urinating. blink.png

Carry on, but pass the crumpets, please . . . biggrin.png

I find the failure to comprehend the association between 'crumpet ' (a sexually alluring woman) and 'mule' (the human male organ) rather puzzling?...

however, since the former is english jargon and the latter american perhaps one may be excused...(cough)...in this instance...

(get outta here, tipp...'scrumptious crumpets' indeed...biggrin.png )

Wasn't me, Tutsi started it..... angry.png

you did!...you did!...there weren't no 'mules' around here before!!!

('mule' reference is to 'muffin the mule'...sorry fer any confusion)

I can't remember ever seeing mules in Australia, or for that matter, donkeys.

Plenty of horses though.

I can't remember ever seeing mules in Australia, or for that matter, donkeys.

Plenty of horses though.

no mules or donkeys in Australia?

well, you know...ye can't expect much in dem south sea islands...mostly palm trees and dark girls in hula skirts...

I always thought that horses came from arabia...

a story:

when I was a kid in Tennessee my grandad took to me to the Davidson County Fair in Nashville...and there was a sled dragging competition where mules were hooked up to sleds ladden with huge weights...

and these animals were the hugest I had ever seen, specially bred by country folks for the competition, just like prized pigs and chickens, etc...

and then the judge gave the 'go' signal and then these country guys fulla tobacco juice started to whip the animals mercilessly to drag the sled and to win the prize...

huge violence...I was just a kid and I was terrified...

my grandad spat tobacco juice and said: 'ye see, Buck...dem hillbillys ain't got much on us city folk...'

my grandad was part of the irish mafia in Nashville...and when he died half the town turned out for his funeral...

Amazing how a fine topic on scrumptious crumpets can morph into a discussion on the various expressions used for males urinating. blink.png

Carry on, but pass the crumpets, please . . . biggrin.png

I find the failure to comprehend the association between 'crumpet ' (a sexually alluring woman) and 'mule' (the human male organ) rather puzzling?...

however, since the former is english jargon and the latter american perhaps one may be excused...(cough)...in this instance...

(get outta here, tipp...'scrumptious crumpets' indeed...biggrin.png )

I guess my time in the States was spent too far east of mule country. Pecker, boner, dong, willy, skin flute, private eye, pud, third leg, hose, gonad, dipstick, Johnson, love muscle, <deleted>, peeter, knob, popsicle, weiner, sausage, tubesteak, wang doodle, ding dong, one-eyed snake, prick . . . had you used any of those descriptors I might have made the connection. But mule??? Spent too much time on the open range with rhinestone cowboys, tutsi? w00t.gif

I can't remember ever seeing mules in Australia, or for that matter, donkeys.

Plenty of horses though.

Nope, no mules in the Windy City, either. We had lots of donkeys, though (imagine the inverse of a crumpet). laugh.png

Erm, still waiting for someone to pass the crumpets . . . whistling.gif

P.S. Sorry about the <deleted>. Must have something to do with TV's filtering software. unsure.png

well...if ye spend time in de States then ye gots to come back wid sumpin' worthwhile...glad t'hear that yer vocabulary was suitably enhanced...

now...'peeter' yas, that's good'un...

picture lonely loggers in the rain and snow in Oregon...we kept busy with the loggin' but there was always 'peeter' this and 'peeter' that...

later, when I got back to Venice in CA where my sister was livin' she remarked regarding the various sexually suggestive t-shirt slogans that were in fashion...and I said: 'yeah, I'd like a t-shirt that said 'yank my peeter'...'

now, my sister was sittin' there wid a friend of hers named Candy (and she had the sweet equipment to boot: 'you stay away from her, tutsi...I've had enough ob you sniffin' after me frens...') and there was the usual mischievious gleam (t-shirt? yank my peeter?)

my birthday was comin' up...and sure enough here comes sis: 'tuuutsiii, we got sumpin fer yer...' and it was a dyed t-shirt wid de eponymous slogan...

and then she said: 'you think yer bad, eh? 'big brother'?...then lets see ye walk down the Venice boardwalk wearin' that, then...'

she always resented me because our folks liked me better...bein' the oldest and a boy and all...

Amazing how a fine topic on scrumptious crumpets can morph into a discussion on the various expressions used for males urinating. blink.png

Carry on, but pass the crumpets, please . . . biggrin.png

I find the failure to comprehend the association between 'crumpet ' (a sexually alluring woman) and 'mule' (the human male organ) rather puzzling?...

however, since the former is english jargon and the latter american perhaps one may be excused...(cough)...in this instance...

(get outta here, tipp...'scrumptious crumpets' indeed...biggrin.png )

I guess my time in the States was spent too far east of mule country. Pecker, boner, dong, willy, skin flute, private eye, pud, third leg, hose, gonad, dipstick, Johnson, love muscle, <deleted>, peeter, knob, popsicle, weiner, sausage, tubesteak, wang doodle, ding dong, one-eyed snake, prick . . . had you used any of those descriptors I might have made the connection. But mule??? Spent too much time on the open range with rhinestone cowboys, tutsi? w00t.gif

I can't remember ever seeing mules in Australia, or for that matter, donkeys.

Plenty of horses though.

Nope, no mules in the Windy City, either. We had lots of donkeys, though (imagine the inverse of a crumpet). laugh.png

Erm, still waiting for someone to pass the crumpets . . . whistling.gif

P.S. Sorry about the <deleted>. Must have something to do with TV's filtering software. unsure.png

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Damn you all!!

For a year or more I have avoided crumpets, muffins and other fattening foods.

But after this thread I went out at the start of the weekend and bought some crumpets. I have eaten 24 in three days! Used up all my butter too.

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