What new cars below 1.5m have this ? Or nearly new s/h perhaps.

My Civic 2.0 has them and well under 1.5 new.

MG3 and MG6

Previous model PJS GT

As a long time owner of paddles I can inform you that I never use them.

Better question is what type of gearbox.

Double clutch.

CVT

Or just an old plain automatic.

Does the next gen civic have them? Trying to think if there are any new gen Japanese models with them.

As a long time owner of paddles I can inform you that I never use them.

Thanks for informing me.

My 2013 Honda City has it. I do use it during stop and go traffics.

As a long time owner of paddles I can inform you that I never use them.

Better question is what type of gearbox.

Double clutch.

CVT

Or just an old plain automatic.

I have to agree.... paddle shifters can be useful or useless - the type of AT is what's going to determine the gear change speed, not the paddle shifters.

My 2013 Honda City has it. I do use it during stop and go traffics.

why?

My 2013 Honda City has it. I do use it during stop and go traffics.

why?

why not?

top spec mazda 3 has them.

My new Honda Jazz has them, (B750,000.

My Grand-kids Dinghy has them.

My 2013 Honda City has it. I do use it during stop and go traffics.

why?

why not?

you will use more gas with lower speeds in stop and go

I prefer a manual transmission but my Ford Focus is an automatic. I use the manual mode when in the mountains. I much prefer the engine braking than riding the brakes. The brakes on my old Nissan had 150,000 KM on the original brakes. I'm always a bit amused when the vehicles in front of me show brake lights all the way down the grade.

I prefer a manual transmission but my Ford Focus is an automatic. I use the manual mode when in the mountains. I much prefer the engine braking than riding the brakes. The brakes on my old Nissan had 150,000 KM on the original brakes. I'm always a bit amused when the vehicles in front of me show brake lights all the way down the grade.

Cheaper to replace brakes than transmissions.

I prefer a manual transmission but my Ford Focus is an automatic. I use the manual mode when in the mountains. I much prefer the engine braking than riding the brakes. The brakes on my old Nissan had 150,000 KM on the original brakes. I'm always a bit amused when the vehicles in front of me show brake lights all the way down the grade.

Cheaper to replace brakes than transmissions.

Not if your brakes overheat from overuse and stop working

I prefer a manual transmission but my Ford Focus is an automatic. I use the manual mode when in the mountains. I much prefer the engine braking than riding the brakes. The brakes on my old Nissan had 150,000 KM on the original brakes. I'm always a bit amused when the vehicles in front of me show brake lights all the way down the grade.

Yep - nothing beats good old "gear tummadah" for absolute control. Even AT's that allow gear manipulation wont' always want to respond quickly to your gear change command, or hold that gear you wanted it to.

Smarter AT's have inclinometers and accelerometers so they know when you're going downhill or uphill, and can vary their shift program to suit - but they still can't see an impending hill or descent like the driver can

Unfortunately some of us have Thai wives who can't use manual boxes, and I'm certainly not going to attempt to teach her .

That's why paddle shifts are the best solution. I personally enjoy using them .. when not in heavy traffic at least

Even if your woman would enjoy manual driving, you'd still be stuck with a no feature version of your car with 0 safety

Why does my manual Jazz run away with itself when going down Doi Inthanon in first gear? The gearing's really short, so I would have thought that would help keep the speed down, but I actually have to ride the brakes.

Even if your woman would enjoy manual driving, you'd still be stuck with a no feature version of your car with 0 safety

I didn't realise the BRZ was so dangerous

Why does my manual Jazz run away with itself when going down Doi Inthanon in first gear? The gearing's really short, so I would have thought that would help keep the speed down, but I actually have to ride the brakes.

Engine size and compression ratio is probably the issue. The larger the engine, that is piston size and cylinder volume and probably stroke and higher the compression ratio the more engine braking you can get. My previous car, Nissan Bluebird SSS 2.0L had an overdrive button. It worked great in the mountains. Just a press of the button to move to a lower gear or back to normal gear.

Unfortunately some of us have Thai wives who can't use manual boxes, and I'm certainly not going to attempt to teach her .

That's why paddle shifts are the best solution. I personally enjoy using them .. when not in heavy traffic at least

My wife must be Laotian then...

I prefer a manual transmission but my Ford Focus is an automatic. I use the manual mode when in the mountains. I much prefer the engine braking than riding the brakes. The brakes on my old Nissan had 150,000 KM on the original brakes. I'm always a bit amused when the vehicles in front of me show brake lights all the way down the grade.

Cheaper to replace brakes than transmissions.

Any decent truck will auto change down when it gets a bit steep. Probably not enough though

MG3 and MG6

Their only positive attribute? If it can be considered an attribute.

Why does my manual Jazz run away with itself when going down Doi Inthanon in first gear? The gearing's really short, so I would have thought that would help keep the speed down, but I actually have to ride the brakes.

Engine size and compression ratio is probably the issue. The larger the engine, that is piston size and cylinder volume and probably stroke and higher the compression ratio the more engine braking you can get. My previous car, Nissan Bluebird SSS 2.0L had an overdrive button. It worked great in the mountains. Just a press of the button to move to a lower gear or back to normal gear.

Thanks - v interesting.