Police consider prosecuting Koh Tao victim's sister over Thailand criticism

[farcanell]

Hey guys excuse my ignorance..what's a VPN ?? Please..

Virtual private network... Supposed to enable you to extend a private network across a public one, like the Internet... No one can see you, from what I understand.

But... Dr Google will ipundoubtedly have more and better info

[grabitanrun]

Words fail me - maybe the RTP should read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, this certainly seems a case of the State trying to subvert the rights of free speech and control everyone's lives. Did they forget she actually doesn't live in Thailand...............

[farcanell]

Over the past couple of days, in open forum, I have asked what a troll and a shill is/ are

I now know the simple answer... Lucky 11... Hey.... How much does a shill make?

[lucky11]

Over the past couple of days, in open forum, I have asked what a troll and a shill is/ are

I now know the simple answer... Lucky 11... Hey.... How much does a shill make?

A Shilling of course!!

[DennisF]

Like it or not both the sisters FB post and the RTP response has gone viral in a BIG WAY.

This story is not going away.

The Anon crew plus the RTP and Laura are filling the international media.

A good thing.

[Traveling Sailor]

Surely for Thai public consumption, promoting the idea that the powers that be in Thailand have reach beyond their borders (in other words, fooling the slaves into thinking their masters have any real power).

I doubt he/they really believe they can achieve anything beyond passing some motion that if she ever goes to The Land Of Corruption they'd get her then.

Again, I say the British government needs to stand up for its citizens and warn them before going to that backwards and morally bankrupt country. This is salt in the wound for any British family who suffered when Thailand killed their family members.

What more proof do people need that Thailand does not respect its guests and needs boycotting?

Nearly all guests in Thailand have only positive things to think about the place until the Thais damage their own reputation by abusing people they should be taking care of. That is the bottom line: Thais have damaged their reputation and they deserve nothing less than to be openly held responsible and not be allowed to abuse the citizens of other countries.

Thailand, shame on you.

British government, shame on you even more.

You would think that this family have suffered enough and therefore earned the right to speak openly and voice their opinion in their own country wouldn't you?

They can and she did. All possible because she is in England, not Thailand. She has nothing to fear.

[sz1a]

I'm so happy I moved from Thailand, the country is a mess For tropical SEA livin' i think Cambodia or Burma is better. Thailand is becoming a disaster for foreigners and Thai laws are screwed up.

[stander]

The Miller family have to be admired for the way they have handle this horrendous event with dignity.

[BuckBee]

I think someone should sue thailand for negligence ...

I don't think this murder could of been made any worse for the victims or families, i think they earned a right to speak their minds. Most westerners value family & justice way way higher than thais so money can't make this go away.

With RTP keep stirring the pot the stench just carries further & creates more support against them, which is rather poetic.

Really want see this case exposed for the whole truth, either way thailand will pay a huge reputation cost & RTP rep is unrecoverable . Face is already 100% lost ...

Edited January 15, 2016 by BuckBee

[stephenterry]

The Miller family have to be admired for the way they have handle this horrendous event with dignity.

What if I said crawl back into your hole, worm, but of course I wouldn't as in Thailand it's defamation. Laura has every reason to lambast the Rtp if what she disclosed is factual. And considering the verdict which the Miller family agreed, she really has nothing to gain by her posts.

[Khun Han]

Well it means that anyone who hasn't read the facebook post will do now spreading the word even further. This all good as it keeps the case in the spotlight. When will Thai's realise that this type of action is an enormous face loser and not a face saver.

The ones pulling the strings will never realise because they are almost invariably hopelessly immature and entitled.

[JusticeKT]

Out of curiosity: Why and by whom has Laura's FB page been taken down? Is this a Facebook decision and if so, on what grounds? Or can this be a UK Gov decision? Surely, we are free to voice our opinions on FB and I find it kind of a drastic action that Laura's page has been taken down completely.

Not that it makes any difference since a copy of her FB post is published all over in the world press...... but still, who blocked her posts then and why?

[chainarong]

I presume Laura is in the UK and has no intention of setting foot in Thailand. If so, she is beyond Thai jurisdiction. What would be the practical effect of any investigation?

Probably tried , hung and quartered in absentia

[Artisi]

She also wrote she had been threatened, chased, and offered bribes by Thais.

So she writes - now show us the proof of your accusations as you will need it if they do decide to press charges.

I assume that she must have proof of the 'chasing' element that she writes about, unless they sent someone to the UK to run after her!!

I'm afraid, that as far as I'm concerned she is telling porkies. Unless someone has been ringing her with threats or offers of money (which seems very unlikely) then any correspondence between the Thai authorities and her must have been carried out by 'words on paper' or electronically. Both of which she should be able to produce as evidence to fight her case should she be unluckily enough for them to follow through on their actions to sue her!!

Has Andy been in touch to act on her behalf, I wonder - probably not I would guess, as he has a few issues of his own to fight against!! For his sake, I hope that he employs a more capable defence team in his battles than those that botched the KT case so catastrophically.

What are you on about?

How would she provide "evidence" for all she said?

Pictures from her dashboard- camera to prove the chase?

You really think, someone in Thailand gave her an official "bribe note"?

What has Andy Hall to do with this?

He is defense lawyer- she is basically on the opposite side!

You have been very happy with a death sentence, based on nothing but hearsay, but now you want evidence?

I could tell you what I think of you, but I like my posting rights!

Why do you believe her?

Why do you disbelieve her?

[iReason]

Ahh, Mr. Blind Justice for Koh Tao finally steps out into the light after lurking at the bottom of the forum page for days.

(You know the FB account, the one with 21 "likes".)

How many diving instructors are there on Koh Tao by the way?

In answer to your curiosity, I suppose you should go off and research your rhetorical questions.

[Tonawatchee]

The new investigation-possibly progressing from mud into quicksand?

Edited January 15, 2016 by Tonawatchee

[glenmohr]

So if Thailand will prosecute her for negative remarks, what about all the TVF members comments? Should we be worried?

555

If they want me they will need a extradition warrant...

There is no chance of Laura ever being extradited to Thailand.

On June 17th 2015, the Thailand Office of the Attorney General applied to the government of New Zealand for the extradition of Ekapob Luara, a United Nations refugee to answer a charge of Lese Majeste. The New Zealand government did not respond even though he had continued with the offense after being granted refugee status in that country under a UN quota system..

The Office of the Attorney General was asked how many other requests were current for extradition to Thailand from all countries'

Answer : "Nine"

Question: ' How many countries have acknowledged the requests "

Answer: "None have responded to our request"

Laura Witheridge has not committed L M, which Ekapob had continuously.

Not one country in June of 2016 even said thank you for your letter Thailand.

Two important points re extradition to Thailand.1) Capital punishment. 2) As the editorial published in the New Zealand Herald said at the time, " Youthful indiscretion is not a crime in NZ". For extradition to be successful the crime and the punishment has to be relevant to and in both countries.

[JonnyF]

The difference between Laura's experience and the Miller's experience is astounding. Polar opposites. If you really think about it, it's quite troubling.

[MrTee]

Out of curiosity: Why and by whom has Laura's FB page been taken down? Is this a Facebook decision and if so, on what grounds? Or can this be a UK Gov decision? Surely, we are free to voice our opinions on FB and I find it kind of a drastic action that Laura's page has been taken down completely.

Not that it makes any difference since a copy of her FB post is published all over in the world press...... but still, who blocked her posts then and why?

I should imagine Laura took it down herself. I guess Laura underestimated just how far it would go and how quickly it would blow up

Cannot be easy for her to be on the world stage like that .

[glenmohr]

" I suppose that Prayut told the judge to deliver the guilty verdict!!"

Almost literally!

Yes!

Absolutely.

[taony]

Over the past couple of days, in open forum, I have asked what a troll and a shill is/ are

I now know the simple answer... Lucky 11... Hey.... How much does a shill make?

He's on my ignore list but it doesn't seem to work when i am using the phone app. Why not!

[lucky11]

She also wrote she had been threatened, chased, and offered bribes by Thais.

So she writes - now show us the proof of your accusations as you will need it if they do decide to press charges.

I assume that she must have proof of the 'chasing' element that she writes about, unless they sent someone to the UK to run after her!!

I'm afraid, that as far as I'm concerned she is telling porkies. Unless someone has been ringing her with threats or offers of money (which seems very unlikely) then any correspondence between the Thai authorities and her must have been carried out by 'words on paper' or electronically. Both of which she should be able to produce as evidence to fight her case should she be unluckily enough for them to follow through on their actions to sue her!!

Has Andy been in touch to act on her behalf, I wonder - probably not I would guess, as he has a few issues of his own to fight against!! For his sake, I hope that he employs a more capable defence team in his battles than those that botched the KT case so catastrophically.

What are you on about?

How would she provide "evidence" for all she said?

Pictures from her dashboard- camera to prove the chase?

You really think, someone in Thailand gave her an official "bribe note"?

What has Andy Hall to do with this?

He is defense lawyer- she is basically on the opposite side!

You have been very happy with a death sentence, based on nothing but hearsay, but now you want evidence?

I could tell you what I think of you, but I like my posting rights!

Why do you believe her?

Why do you disbelieve her?

Because she has ulterior motives and because of her hair colour!! She could be a clone of Pornthip.

[lucky11]

Over the past couple of days, in open forum, I have asked what a troll and a shill is/ are

I now know the simple answer... Lucky 11... Hey.... How much does a shill make?

He's on my ignore list but it doesn't seem to work when i am using the phone app. Why not!

Guess you'll just have to put up with me then and wait until they modify the phone ap you are using.

[retarius]

Smart move by BiB. Could lock her up for 15 years. That would ensure that everybody would know that the investigation was perfect.

[farcanell]

The difference between Laura's experience and the Miller's experience is astounding. Polar opposites. If you really think about it, it's quite troubling.

I would also suggest that the difference between what happened to Laura's sister and the Miller lads experience was also quite different... Which of the two had the worst of it, do you think?

[lucky11]

Over the past couple of days, in open forum, I have asked what a troll and a shill is/ are

I now know the simple answer... Lucky 11... Hey.... How much does a shill make?

You've given me two likes now. Can I conclude from that, that I'm not such a bad shill after all?

I think that I'll try to put my points over in a little less of a confrontational manner in the future as I don't want to come over as being 'all nasty'.

I shall still fight my corner though!! Whether it is against Yingluck or on the Koh Tao threads. I don't think you'd expect any different of me in this respect.

[lvr181]

Thais never understand that by trying to save face they lose more face to the outside world who don't give a monkey's about their silly rules and etiquette. The problem is that they take themselves so seriously when everyone else just looks on rolling their eyes. How long can the world keep humouring these childish morons ?

I have been told by some Thais they don't care what the world thinks, it is their country. An insight into how many every day average Thais think? Hence the leadership seem to do what they damn well please and up urs

They have given very little to the world, apart from Red Bull and an Ebola cure, so perhaps they feel "the world" should butt out on their internal affairs? Just saying

[farcanell]

Over the past couple of days, in open forum, I have asked what a troll and a shill is/ are

I now know the simple answer... Lucky 11... Hey.... How much does a shill make?

You've given me two likes now. Can I conclude from that, that I'm not such a bad shill after all?

I think that I'll try to put my points over in a little less of a confrontational manner in the future as I don't want to come over as being 'all nasty'.

I shall still fight my corner though!! Whether it is against Yingluck or on the Koh Tao threads. I don't think you'd expect any different of me in this respect.

When not posting rubbish, your undoubtedly a funny bugger!... And we can argue the serious stuff as it arises.... Which probably won't garner to many likes.

[bannork]

I'm so happy I moved from Thailand, the country is a mess For tropical SEA livin' i think Cambodia or Burma is better. Thailand is becoming a disaster for foreigners and Thai laws are screwed up.

Hilarious post- ask the Rohingya about the concentration camps they live in in Burma which Aung San Suu Kyi refuses to condemn.

As for Cambodia and Hun Sen,an ex Khmer Rouge dictator who has no time for any opposition of any kind.

Which country in SE Asia has such a vibrant and free expat forum comparable to Thai Visa?

[Khun Han]

Over the past couple of days, in open forum, I have asked what a troll and a shill is/ are

I now know the simple answer... Lucky 11... Hey.... How much does a shill make?

You've given me two likes now. Can I conclude from that, that I'm not such a bad shill after all?

I think that I'll try to put my points over in a little less of a confrontational manner in the future as I don't want to come over as being 'all nasty'.

I shall still fight my corner though!! Whether it is against Yingluck or on the Koh Tao threads. I don't think you'd expect any different of me in this respect.

It would be a big plus if you stopped defending the indefensible, and sticking to your POV after you've been comprehensively proven wrong, as you did on the Jonathan Head tweet discussion.