The dog I ran over today - UPDATE

[Gecko123]

Last week I posted a thread about a dog I had accidentally run over in the Izuzu dealership parking lot.

Today I went back to the dealership. I had some business to attend to, but was also curious about the status of the dog. Because some forum members expressed concern about the dog, I thought I'd provide an update.

The dog survived. It will probably have a limp for the rest of its life, but it's going to make it. Here are some pictures:

[cornishcarlos]

That is great news...

Sure you are very relieved..

[davethailand]

Also a soi dog with a new collar on?

Means he's being cared for which is a good thing.

[DavisH]

Also a soi dog with a new collar on?

Means he's being cared for which is a good thing.

I do wonder sometimes about the ownership status of some soi dogs. Be careful if you injure one, someone will claim ownership of the dog....and will want compensation. It does happen and has been reported in tv before. Best to treat them all as owned by someone from the outset.

[Gecko123]

I asked the guard exactly who owned the dog. It belonged to some neighboring house, but hangs out at the dealership because they feed it and give it water. Probably a companion for the guard. I'm almost positive that dog didn't have a collar when I hit it the week before.

[SoiBiker]

Glad to hear it.

Good thing you didn't finish it off with a tyre iron like some of our resident hard men suggested.

[Gecko123]

Glad to hear it.

Good thing you didn't finish it off with a tyre iron like some of our resident hard men suggested.

SoiBiker:

One thing I learned from this ordeal is that mercy killing is even more alien to Thai culture than I realized.

When I finally made it over to the service department, it was close to closing time. The counter service staff were in nail filing mode, just waiting for 5 o'clock. The service bays were all empty, and several of the mechanics were chilling in the customer service area, enjoying the air conditioning before they went home. So I decided to strike up a discussion about the dog.

Of course, they already knew all about it, and assured me that the dog hadn't died. I told them about how I had discussed what happened on the internet with foreigners living in Thailand and that many had said that I should have killed the dog to end its suffering. Everyone was like: 'Say whaaat?" I asked one of the mechanics if Thai people ever kill a dog which got hit by a car in order to put it out of its misery, and everyone shook their head, saying that that was never done.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Thais perceive this, but my impression is that they see death as a natural process, not to be interfered with. I get the feeling that there is an aura around death which needs to be respected.

Edited January 27, 2016 by Gecko123

[Gracas]

The dog looks real happy to see you again. Took shelter by the tree away from your car.

But yes it was good that you follow up and the dog is recovering.

[CharlieH]

Troll style comment removed, and subsequent responses to it.

[steven100]

soi dogs can be dangerous to kids and elderly. They need to be exterminated.

This dog has a collar that the OP said he thought wasn't there before .... so it may be a soi dog.

anyway he's up and about .... so he's fine.

Edited January 28, 2016 by steven100

[jacko45k]

I asked the guard exactly who owned the dog. It belonged to some neighboring house, but hangs out at the dealership because they feed it and give it water. Probably a companion for the guard. I'm almost positive that dog didn't have a collar when I hit it the week before.

Ownership established, they will be sending you a vet bill (hand-written) soon.

[roo860]

Glad to hear it.

Good thing you didn't finish it off with a tyre iron like some of our resident hard men suggested.

SoiBiker:

One thing I learned from this ordeal is that mercy killing is even more alien to Thai culture than I realized.

When I finally made it over to the service department, it was close to closing time. The counter service staff were in nail filing mode, just waiting for 5 o'clock. The service bays were all empty, and several of the mechanics were chilling in the customer service area, enjoying the air conditioning before they went home. So I decided to strike up a discussion about the dog.

Of course, they already knew all about it, and assured me that the dog hadn't died. I told them about how I had discussed what happened on the internet with foreigners living in Thailand and that many had said that I should have killed the dog to end its suffering. Everyone was like: 'Say whaaat?" I asked one of the mechanics if Thai people ever kill a dog which got hit by a car in order to put it out of its misery, and everyone shook their head, saying that that was never done.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Thais perceive this, but my impression is that they see death as a natural process, not to be interfered with. I get the feeling that there is an aura around death which needs to be respected.

Unfortunately they have an agonising end of life, this view is totally alien to us.

I still can't get my head round it.

Edited January 28, 2016 by roo860

[Gecko123]

I asked the guard exactly who owned the dog. It belonged to some neighboring house, but hangs out at the dealership because they feed it and give it water. Probably a companion for the guard. I'm almost positive that dog didn't have a collar when I hit it the week before.

Ownership established, they will be sending you a vet bill (hand-written) soon.

They did take the dog to a vet after the accident, and it was given some shots and antibiotics.

It did cross my mind to offer to pay, but from a legal liability standpoint (at least under US premises liability law), I really don't believe I was at-fault.

The dealership had a duty to maintain a hazard free premises for its customers. A stray dog can be considered a hazard. The guard was aware or should of been aware of the dog. A customer can't really be expected to be aware that a stray dog has decided to take a nap under his car. I was following the guard's instructions to back up, which was the proximate cause of the accident.

I am planning on bringing the dog some homemade chicken meat balls when I go back again next week.

Edited January 28, 2016 by Gecko123

[AlQaholic]

Also a soi dog with a new collar on?

Means he's being cared for which is a good thing.

I do wonder sometimes about the ownership status of some soi dogs. Be careful if you injure one, someone will claim ownership of the dog....and will want compensation. It does happen and has been reported in tv before. Best to treat them all as owned by someone from the outset.

Yeah, if they bite your kid nobody owns them, but if you hurt a dog suddenly it is owned by everyone in the Soi

[CharlieH]

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[scubascuba3]

It can't last long being injured can it? other Soi dogs don't appear to have much sympathy

[csabo]

He probably felt like an outcast anyway being the only dog in town with four good legs.

[fredge45]

I asked the guard exactly who owned the dog. It belonged to some neighboring house, but hangs out at the dealership because they feed it and give it water. Probably a companion for the guard. I'm almost positive that dog didn't have a collar when I hit it the week before.

Ownership established, they will be sending you a vet bill (hand-written) soon.

They did take the dog to a vet after the accident, and it was given some shots and antibiotics.

It did cross my mind to offer to pay, but from a legal liability standpoint (at least under US premises liability law), I really don't believe I was at-fault.

The dealership had a duty to maintain a hazard free premises for its customers. A stray dog can be considered a hazard. The guard was aware or should of been aware of the dog. A customer can't really be expected to be aware that a stray dog has decided to take a nap under his car. I was following the guard's instructions to back up, which was the proximate cause of the accident.

I am planning on bringing the dog some homemade chicken meat balls when I go back again next week.

I am quite surprised that you didn't take full responsibility for hitting the dog at the time of the incident. In that you had thoughts of killing the victim of your actions tells me a lot about you. Hiding behind your impression of 'merican laws and how they apply (not) in Thailand borders on hilarious!

Just pay the bills and supply the good security guards with dog food to the victim for a year or two might buy your soul some salvation.

[dotpoom]

Glad to hear it ...good luck to you....and the dog, of course.

[SOTIRIOS]

......if the limb is broken..........and set properly.....no limp.....

...just leave a dog with a broken leg.....???

....ouch...yuck.....

[Gecko123]

I am quite surprised that you didn't take full responsibility for hitting the dog at the time of the incident. In that you had thoughts of killing the victim of your actions tells me a lot about you. Hiding behind your impression of 'merican laws and how they apply (not) in Thailand borders on hilarious!

Just pay the bills and supply the good security guards with dog food to the victim for a year or two might buy your soul some salvation.

You misunderstand what happened. It was other TVF members who advocated killing the dog, not me.

Earlier thread is here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/886654-the-dog-i-ran-over-today/

Easy to play Monday morning quarterback in these situations.

Edited January 28, 2016 by Gecko123

[khunPer]

Thanks for update and glad to hear the good news with photo, she looks lovely, hope someone at the dealership will continue to take care of her...

[fredge45]

I am quite surprised that you didn't take full responsibility for hitting the dog at the time of the incident. In that you had thoughts of killing the victim of your actions tells me a lot about you. Hiding behind your impression of 'merican laws and how they apply (not) in Thailand borders on hilarious!

Just pay the bills and supply the good security guards with dog food to the victim for a year or two might buy your soul some salvation.

You misunderstand what happened. It was other TVF members who advocated killing the dog, not me.

Earlier thread is here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/886654-the-dog-i-ran-over-today/

Easy to play Monday morning quarterback in these situations.

I read your earlier post and was amazed that you would just take the easy way out and drive off, ostensibly with the security guard's blessing. The impression about you I got from that seems to have been correct.

Please sir, start taking some responsibility for your actions especially when they adversely affect other creatures on the planet.

[TheKnave]

I am quite surprised that you didn't take full responsibility for hitting the dog at the time of the incident. In that you had thoughts of killing the victim of your actions tells me a lot about you. Hiding behind your impression of 'merican laws and how they apply (not) in Thailand borders on hilarious!

Just pay the bills and supply the good security guards with dog food to the victim for a year or two might buy your soul some salvation.

You misunderstand what happened. It was other TVF members who advocated killing the dog, not me.

Earlier thread is here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/886654-the-dog-i-ran-over-today/

Easy to play Monday morning quarterback in these situations.

I read your earlier post and was amazed that you would just take the easy way out and drive off, ostensibly with the security guard's blessing. The impression about you I got from that seems to have been correct.

Please sir, start taking some responsibility for your actions especially when they adversely affect other creatures on the planet.

I got me two chickens, and knocked hell out of a Soi dog who ran his entire pack into the side of my bike chasing some cat. If I could have found some inverted stick figure decals, I would have stuck them on my gas tank, B-25 style...

I did offer to pay for the chickens, though...

Glad the pup is ok.

[Gecko123]

I am quite surprised that you didn't take full responsibility for hitting the dog at the time of the incident. In that you had thoughts of killing the victim of your actions tells me a lot about you. Hiding behind your impression of 'merican laws and how they apply (not) in Thailand borders on hilarious!

Just pay the bills and supply the good security guards with dog food to the victim for a year or two might buy your soul some salvation.

You misunderstand what happened. It was other TVF members who advocated killing the dog, not me.

Earlier thread is here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/886654-the-dog-i-ran-over-today/

Easy to play Monday morning quarterback in these situations.

I read your earlier post and was amazed that you would just take the easy way out and drive off, ostensibly with the security guard's blessing. The impression about you I got from that seems to have been correct.

Please sir, start taking some responsibility for your actions especially when they adversely affect other creatures on the planet.

And I say, thank you, Holy Father, for your spiritual guidance, even if your sermon was delivered from the comfort of your La-Z-Boy recliner.

Edited January 28, 2016 by Gecko123

[fredge45]

I am quite surprised that you didn't take full responsibility for hitting the dog at the time of the incident. In that you had thoughts of killing the victim of your actions tells me a lot about you. Hiding behind your impression of 'merican laws and how they apply (not) in Thailand borders on hilarious!

Just pay the bills and supply the good security guards with dog food to the victim for a year or two might buy your soul some salvation.

You misunderstand what happened. It was other TVF members who advocated killing the dog, not me.

Earlier thread is here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/886654-the-dog-i-ran-over-today/

Easy to play Monday morning quarterback in these situations.

I read your earlier post and was amazed that you would just take the easy way out and drive off, ostensibly with the security guard's blessing. The impression about you I got from that seems to have been correct.

Please sir, start taking some responsibility for your actions especially when they adversely affect other creatures on the planet.

And I say, thank you, Holy Father, for your spiritual guidance, even if your sermon was delivered from the comfort of your La-Z-Boy recliner.

No Monday morning quarterback and do not have a recliner of any brand.

At least I got your attention and perhaps got you to think just a bit.

Have a wonderful one of whatever you are having! 555+

[hugh2121]

soi dogs can be dangerous to kids and elderly. They need to be exterminated.

This dog has a collar that the OP said he thought wasn't there before .... so it may be a soi dog.

anyway he's up and about .... so he's fine.

"They need to be exterminated." How about some of the 2 legged mad dogs? Far more dangerous than any dog.

[hugh2121]

Glad to hear it.

Good thing you didn't finish it off with a tyre iron like some of our resident hard men suggested.

SoiBiker:

One thing I learned from this ordeal is that mercy killing is even more alien to Thai culture than I realized.

When I finally made it over to the service department, it was close to closing time. The counter service staff were in nail filing mode, just waiting for 5 o'clock. The service bays were all empty, and several of the mechanics were chilling in the customer service area, enjoying the air conditioning before they went home. So I decided to strike up a discussion about the dog.

Of course, they already knew all about it, and assured me that the dog hadn't died. I told them about how I had discussed what happened on the internet with foreigners living in Thailand and that many had said that I should have killed the dog to end its suffering. Everyone was like: 'Say whaaat?" I asked one of the mechanics if Thai people ever kill a dog which got hit by a car in order to put it out of its misery, and everyone shook their head, saying that that was never done.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Thais perceive this, but my impression is that they see death as a natural process, not to be interfered with. I get the feeling that there is an aura around death which needs to be respected.

Unfortunately they have an agonising end of life, this view is totally alien to us.

I still can't get my head round it.

Some Thai vets will euthanize but not all. I think it is usually the pet hospitals that will do it.

[fakename]

Good to know that US liability law applies to Thailand! Your in Dreamland!

[LotusBoy]

I once ran of a packet of Digestives, there were crumbs everywhere........

But glad Fido is on the mend