Canadian Teachers report assault at Pattaya Go-Go Bar

[Jiggo]

It's all part of visiting Pattaya, thinking of buying a "I got Scammed in Pattaya" t-shirt......lol

[pmk1000]

Most likely they had to much to drink the pair of them, and being from Canada, i know they can be stroppy beaches! Drink all night, all the girls running around after them, i can just see it! At the end of the night who knows maybe they were going to leg it? Crying large at the station "personally" although i don't condone it, i think she may have deserved a slap. She may have been looking down at the Thai hosts, thinking she is superior blah blah. Unfortunately because its such bad press the place may be closed down as a result, who knows what happened other than the staff and everyone is against them for the bad press they have caused. Yes stupid on their part, the manager should have stepped in and controlled the situation escorting the girl to find her friend rather than letting it get out of hand with the security! One can only hope that instances like this will encourage owners to get more intelligent managers to run their houses!

[smedly]

I have only been to a girly bar once , in Bangkok . I paid for drinks as ordered , so no more money , no more drinks .

These women are complete idiots who don't know how to conduct themselves in a foreign land , as are many of the tourists who come to Thailand on holiday .

yes you are quite right and more often than not get taken to the cleaners in thailand

[inzman]

Unfortunately Thailand has carefully cultivated an image of scams. I don't profess to know what really happened but because of the well deserved reputation of this countries tourist proprietors, the locals are now looked upon as the instigators. Wear a bikini in khotao get killed. Pensioners playing an innocent game of cards locked up. Old men walking in a park are now targets for hate crimes. The list goes on. The days of the Thai smile are long gone.

[SOTIRIOS]

...how can you expect people coming here for a trip to even imagine what awaits them;;;

....even those with experience are constantly surprised and taken aback by the audacity of some of these locals...

....did the police even bother checking the bill...???

[NCC1701A]

the gogo was closed as per the zero violence order against tourists. this was reported on Pattaya Addicts Forum, where I am Super Member with 23,457 posts.

the two school teachers will be looking for jobs soon...

5000 / 160 = 31 drinks /2 15.5 per woman. or 4 each for them, and 11 lady drinks per woman.

[smedly]

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Don't hang around the worst tourist central areas like Walking Street or Bangla Road. The people there can turn hostile very quickly.

Don't get sh1tfaced when you don't have a lot of friends around to help you out.

Thais, particularly those familiar with drunken farangs, do not have unlimited patience with drunken farangs.

Never run up a bill that you cannot pay at the due and expected time.

Don't try to do a runner. This is not farangland.

If you do try to do a runner, expect a beating. This is not farangland.

If you try to do the runner, you will get the beating and still have to pay.

Thailand is not always nice. It can be ruthless.

Do not combine the above errors. It will compound the problem.

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Better still dont go to Thailand.

LOS, Land of scams.

Unreal ,Two foreigners try to scam some Thais and you are saying that Thais tried to scam foreigners !!!!!!

Unbelievable

if that is what you want to believe then up to you, I saw no details in the report to suggest either way, like I said lack of details so everyone is filling in the blanks

[luke000]

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Don't hang around the worst tourist central areas like Walking Street or Bangla Road. The people there can turn hostile very quickly.

Don't get sh1tfaced when you don't have a lot of friends around to help you out.

Thais, particularly those familiar with drunken farangs, do not have unlimited patience with drunken farangs.

Never run up a bill that you cannot pay at the due and expected time.

Don't try to do a runner. This is not farangland.

If you do try to do a runner, expect a beating. This is not farangland.

If you try to do the runner, you will get the beating and still have to pay.

Thailand is not always nice. It can be ruthless.

Do not combine the above errors. It will compound the problem.

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Better still dont go to Thailand.

LOS, Land of scams.

Unreal ,Two foreigners try to scam some Thais and you are saying that Thais tried to scam foreigners !!!!!!

Unbelievable

Get your facts straight,,,,,,5,000B bar bill. <deleted>.

If you are clamming that the bar bill was inflated, then do tell what they consumed ?

The girls didnt make the claim that their bill was inflated, so, what are you basing your assumption on ?

The bill was 5000K, which is agreed on by everyone.

That isnt excessive for two people. on a night out

The only people who are clamming that the bill was inflated are some people here on this thread, no one else, not the girls or the Police

[striderman]

^^^ It's possible they didn't realize the bill was getting that large. BTW how do two gals drink 5,000 baht worth of drinks?

palace is a run of the mill walking st gogo and in line with almost all of them a new computer print ticket is issued every time another drink or series of drinks is ordered.

the bill in there does not suddenly appear by magic at the end of the evening, it sits in front of you in a small round holder. keeping a note of what your current spend is at any point in the evening simply involves looking at that "bin"

[luke000]

^^^ It's possible they didn't realize the bill was getting that large. BTW how do two gals drink 5,000 baht worth of drinks?

palace is a run of the mill walking st gogo and in line with almost all of them a new computer print ticket is issued every time another drink or series of drinks is ordered.

the bill in there does not suddenly appear by magic at the end of the evening, it sits in front of you in a small round holder. keeping a note of what your current spend is at any point in the evening simply involves looking at that "bin"

So that is proof that the girls were not scammed .

[silent]

Ah the delights of the scam street of pattaya. Complete with its own private thugs to beat you up!

I'm Canadian too and unless all establishments in Ontario have changed drastically, as someone else mentions, give your head a shake and don't the actions of the victims sound classic and more suspicious than the suspicions that some kind of unlawful assault occurred here.

The alleged victim of assault being Canadian female sounds similar to a case of one trying to play the assault card because of bruising to her wrists from her ex, which only proved her guilt and exhibited that the real victim used only as much force as necessary in holding them to stop her commission of a crime and prevent his need for the use of potentially deadly force.

A very common trait of those people with their ability to gain sympathy through manipulation of the facts and present the perception of being a victim so some poor schmuck gets blamed. Don't they look and sound like poor innocent naive Pollyanna at a Thailand go-go bar that would also like to see Jian Gomeshi hang, for spurning their affections if given the chance when he was popular.

Edited February 13, 2016 by silent

[sawadee1947]

good experience. Why to enter a go-go bar?

[Tchooptip]

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Don't hang around the worst tourist central areas like Walking Street or Bangla Road. The people there can turn hostile very quickly.

Don't get sh1tfaced when you don't have a lot of friends around to help you out.

Thais, particularly those familiar with drunken farangs, do not have unlimited patience with drunken farangs.

Never run up a bill that you cannot pay at the due and expected time.

Don't try to do a runner. This is not farangland.

If you do try to do a runner, expect a beating. This is not farangland.

If you try to do the runner, you will get the beating and still have to pay.

Thailand is not always nice. It can be ruthless.

Do not combine the above errors. It will compound the problem.

That is 100% valid for every single "red light district" in the world, farang land or not!

[geisha]

You would have to be very naive , or stupid, to go to a go go bar and not know the consequences. These two teachers should have known better. Pattaya , especially Walking Street, has a world wide reputation, so I don't think they could plead ignorance. While I completely condem any violence ( the staff should have accompanied the woman to the atm, or called a tourist police to explain) I don't think they have any excuse to make a fuss. Surely, after all one sees in Thailand, a foreign woman should know how to behave ?

[striderman]

it is always possible to add a lady drink here or there which is why you should keep an eye on things.

i have myself never had a problem in any of the french group gogos which includes palace and i've been in all of them many times.

my point is the bill is in front of you all the time and stopping ordering drinks before it exceeds what cash you have on you is pretty simple stuff

[Sooo Upto Me]

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Don't hang around the worst tourist central areas like Walking Street or Bangla Road. The people there can turn hostile very quickly.

Don't get sh1tfaced when you don't have a lot of friends around to help you out.

Thais, particularly those familiar with drunken farangs, do not have unlimited patience with drunken farangs.

Never run up a bill that you cannot pay at the due and expected time.

Don't try to do a runner. This is not farangland.

If you do try to do a runner, expect a beating. This is not farangland.

If you try to do the runner, you will get the beating and still have to pay.

Thailand is not always nice. It can be ruthless.

Do not combine the above errors. It will compound the problem.

I think most people know this anyway, It happens anywhere in the world in party towns. Not just Thailand.

[silverado]

good experience. Why to enter a go-go bar?

lesbians ?

Edited February 13, 2016 by silverado

[mickba]

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Don't hang around the worst tourist central areas like Walking Street or Bangla Road. The people there can turn hostile very quickly.

Don't get sh1tfaced when you don't have a lot of friends around to help you out.

Thais, particularly those familiar with drunken farangs, do not have unlimited patience with drunken farangs.

Never run up a bill that you cannot pay at the due and expected time.

Don't try to do a runner. This is not farangland.

If you do try to do a runner, expect a beating. This is not farangland.

If you try to do the runner, you will get the beating and still have to pay.

Thailand is not always nice. It can be ruthless.

Do not combine the above errors. It will compound the problem.

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Better still dont go to Thailand.

LOS, Land of scams.

Unreal ,Two foreigners try to scam some Thais and you are saying that Thais tried to scam foreigners !!!!!!

Unbelievable

Get your facts straight,,,,,,5,000B bar bill. <deleted>.

There were 3 (BiB say) customers partying and 'splashing the cash' in a WS GoGo, so that's about 1,700 each (c. 11 drinks inc LDs) - what's your point?

I'd say a more relevant point is that they did that whilst only apparently having 500 Baht between them, but draw your own conclusions from that.

Regardless, the GoGo will be the one to suffer the consequences.

Edited February 13, 2016 by mickba

[Lupatria]

Looking at the amount of the bill for drinks, I just hope they are not math teachers...

[gyrosman]

5000 baht bill? How many lap dances did these 2 enjoy?

[recycler]

Another example of how our privacy is guarded by the police.... reporting being assaulted and you end up with full names and pictures on internet...

[luke000]

I'd say a more relevant point is that they did that whilst only apparently having 500 Baht between them, but draw your own conclusions from that.

Regardless, the GoGo will be the one to suffer the consequences.

If the three of them went out with only 500 Baht between them and without the ability to pay and then consumed an excessive amount without a care in the World and at the end of the night after being given the bill, one goes to the ATM machine and doesnt come back and the other goes to "look for her friend" leaving the bill behind suggests that the girls intentionally tried to not pay their bill .

They would have known that they didnt have enough money to cover the bill and the bill was there in front of them to see, so why didnt one of them nip off to the ATM before they went to (not ) pay the bill?

" You two wait here, I'll just go to the ATM machine, get some money and be back in five minutes and we can pay the bill"

The fact that they asked for the bill without funds to pay, suggests that they deliberately tried to avoid paying their bil

[Tchooptip]

it is not the first time there is problem with security staff which are waiting any opportunities to agress pharang . these people should be jailed and the bar definitively closed.

"security staff which are waiting any opportunities to agress pharang"

Because for sure in farangland, no farang bouncers would dare to aggress customers!

...there are hardly a few thousands YouTube's videos on the subject

[mickba]

Looking at the amount of the bill for drinks, I just hope they are not math teachers...

5000 baht bill? How many lap dances did these 2 enjoy?

See above - c. 11 drinks each inc the LDs they were buying.

Do you really think that's a lot in a party session in a WS GoGo?

Best stick with the 7-11 if so.

[sawadee1947]

good experience. Why to enter a go-go bar?

lesbians ?

wow, yes, I forgot, sorry......

[diehard60]

And these are the kind of foreign teachers Thailand wants. I wonder if they even have work permits? A couple of drunk broads.

[Tchooptip]

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Don't hang around the worst tourist central areas like Walking Street or Bangla Road. The people there can turn hostile very quickly.

Don't get sh1tfaced when you don't have a lot of friends around to help you out.

Thais, particularly those familiar with drunken farangs, do not have unlimited patience with drunken farangs.

Never run up a bill that you cannot pay at the due and expected time.

Don't try to do a runner. This is not farangland.

If you do try to do a runner, expect a beating. This is not farangland.

If you try to do the runner, you will get the beating and still have to pay.

Thailand is not always nice. It can be ruthless.

Do not combine the above errors. It will compound the problem.

What lessons might these 2 learn if they have any brains?

Better still dont go to Thailand.

LOS, Land of scams.

Because the red light districts anywhere else in the world are not land of scams

[mikiea]

Another example of how our privacy is guarded by the police.... reporting being assaulted and you end up with full names and pictures on internet...

yea in this case i like it ....bada bada bing ...............

[pmk1000]

Maybe you could wait to know what really happened

before condemning staff of one of best Walking Street agogo ...

According to the staff last night,

the Canadian girls started a fight with a dancer inside the agogo while waiting,

and the dancer had to go to the hospital for facial injuries.

Looks like she forgot to mention that to Police and medias...

Agreed 100%, most likely stroppy little <deleted> looking down at everyone after getting pissed and possibly trying to do a runner, no money in cash machine, the hosts were probably doing their best to make these girls happy and enjoy the evening, at the end of the night NO CASH to pay. Its out of order to go to a bar drink and not pay attention to how much the bin is, its a shame with all the bad press this the club will be closed down and have to pay large of for a couple of stupid women who think they are superior!

[mikiea]

...how can you expect people coming here for a trip to even imagine what awaits them;;;

....even those with experience are constantly surprised and taken aback by the audacity of some of these locals...

....did the police even bother checking the bill...???

sit down and take your insulin shot , da skanks tried a jail -break to avoid the bar bill , got caught , apparently did not run fast enough . i should feel sorry for the pair of thief's sitting in jail begging the police for mercy ? bwhaha ha haa ha , that is a good one ..................