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I actually understand everything you are saying and appreciate such a reasoned response. Some others on this thread have really shown how unhinged they truly are. And I agree, that we end up for two choices and we generally have to choose the lesser of two evils.

But, here is what I don't understand....how did you come to the conclusion that Trump is indeed the lesser of two evils? I can list a million examples, but the one that really sticks out is that he has claimed, "American wages are too high". How can you reconcile voting for a billionaire who says this about other peoples (working class) wages in America?

And do you not view Trump as a habitual liar (on a dangerous level)? It is hard to get an answer to something like this as well because as you can see throughout this thread.....when a questioned like this is put forth.....it is simply ignored and re-directed with something regarding Clinton (who is also a habitual liar).

Please give links and examples for allegations. I don't buy any of what you're saying.

Trump has been bemoaning the plight of the middle class worker due to outsourced jobs and illegal immigrants competing for jobs.

I'm not a big Trump fan. I am anti, anti, anti establishment which means everything else that is available except a socialist which I could never support.

Cheers.

It is not an allegation! Here is the video of him saying it! Do you know how to use Google or Youtube? And by the way....if he was really that concrned with outsourcing jobs, why are all of his products and clothing lines made in China? His "Make America Great Again" hats are even made in China! And why has he used immigrant labor in America rather than hiring US citizens? Do you need a video link to this stuff as well? This is why I can't take you seriously. You seem blissfully unaware of the massive divide between what he says.....and what he actually does.

Game.

Set.

Match.

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Another video of the bloviator lying.

To date, he has taken in over 7 million in donations. Fact.

The money he lies about when he claims "I'm using my own money"?

It is lent to the campaign. To be paid back. Fact.

"I'm really rich" What kind of <deleted> say's that?

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Another video of the bloviator lying.

He's constantly lying.

In fact, according to a recent analysis of his speeches, he lies every five minutes.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/trump-fact-check-errors-exaggerations-falsehoods-213730

But the slurping Trump fanboys aren't concerned about that. Yet.

My favorite manifestation of their pure idiocy is when the say that Trump care about middle class voter. Good God. How can they be so naive/stupid/delusional?

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Delusional is my pick.

And they will never address the cold, real facts.

Campaign gear "Made in America"?

Of course. This shyster isn't that stupid.

Pointless, deflection on the part of one here.

Now, his line of clothing, and his ex-wife Ivana? (One of 3) laugh.png

That's another story...

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the gloves are really off now ! Donald Trump has just tweeted the following message

" Hillary Clinton has been involved in corruption for most of her professional life! "ohmy.png

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/710626092114120708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

LOL....tough talk from a man who was great buddies with her just a few years back. Invited her to his wedding of his 3rd wife and donated tons of money to her political campaigns.

How people fall for the show this guy is putting on is beyond me........

Exactly what Trump knows. His supporters are suckers. Now what he really wants with the presidency is a mystery.

Well, like I said earlier......It has crossed my mind that Trump does not even believe the nonsense he spits. There is a part of me that believes he knows the population he is appealing to. I mean, he even said, "I love the uneducated" after one of the primaries a few weeks back. And quite honestly, that is probably the most truthful thing Trump has ever said. If it were not for uneducated people that can so easily fall for verifiable lies and discreet, Trump would be nowhere right now.

On the other hand one needs a certain level of sophistication to understand how something is good when every sense you have tells you it is not. One doesn't need a high level of intelligence to grok when a system is unfair or that the benefits of one system over another are distributed unfairly.

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Your thinking there is nothing wrong with it says a lot about your character.

Look. I am well aware of the word games people like you play and I won't fall into them. You and I both know I never said there was nothing wrong with it. You are making a false assumption about me and putting words into my mouth.

What I said was that your statement about Clinton accepting donations has nothing to do with the fact TRUMP was good buddies with her and donating to her.....a liberal.....a Democrat.....just a few years earlier.

You are the only one with character issues when you cannot discuss an issue at hand without resorting to a straw man argument.

Trump has addressed this. He said he paid her to be at his wedding and that his contributions were to pay for her support on other projects he was working on. That certainly rings true. I wonder what the Chinese will pay her? I mean the foundation of course. Accepting payments directly from a foreign government would be illegal.

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Good that these American Jewish leaders are standing up against the hate incitement campaign of Trump.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/17/politics/donald-trump-aipac-boycott-protest-rabbis-jewish-leaders/index.html

http://www.cometogetheragainsthate.com/#!press-1/emvb4

"This is not about policies, this is not about parties, this is about one particular person, Donald Trump, who has encouraged and incited violence at his campaign rallies," said Paskin, a rabbi in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. "We are against the hatred, the incitement of hatred, the ugliness that has engulfed this political season."

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"We do not draw analogies to the rise of communism and fascism lightly, but both of those tyrannical movements rose to power replacing democratically elected governments, by virtue of threats of, or actual, violence against their opponents," the AJC said.

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One good thing that may come out of this: Other countries with tenuous manifestations of democracy will become more open in their campaigning processes. As flawed as it is, America is still influential (non-smoking rules, national parks, anti-hemp laws, defamation of character lawsuits, etc). Thailand is #1 ww for # of coup d'etats and currently has a self-imposed government of old men who also happen to control the most guns. When there are election campaigns in Thailand, they don't include TV debates nor much other trappings of campaigning. There are 2 parties which appoint candidates (usually the son or daughter of a retiring official), and candidates are required to have the exact same ideas as their respective party affiliation. So, the party leadership make vague sweeping policy statements, with promises. No need for debates, because voters (who care to research) will already know what their candidate stands for. Payments are made up and down - to the level of individual voters.

The current campaign in the US, warts and all, will hopefully influence some countries to open up their campaigning processes - instead of 'business as usual' with countries like Syria, S.Arabia and N.Korea, which merely annoint the son of the prior leader, or places like Mexico or Malaysia where one strong political party appoints the national leader, while barely pretending to have elections. One can hope.

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a few hours ago, Romney put the following post on his FB account. . . . . . .
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"This week, in the Utah nominating caucus, I will vote for Senator Ted Cruz.

Today, there is a contest between Trumpism and Republicanism. Through the calculated statements of its leader, Trumpism has become associated with racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia, vulgarity and, most recently, threats and violence. I am repulsed by each and every one of these.

The only path that remains to nominate a Republican rather than Mr. Trump is to have an open convention. At this stage, the only way we can reach an open convention is for Senator Cruz to be successful in as many of the remaining nominating elections as possible.

I like Governor John Kasich. I have campaigned with him. He has a solid record as governor. I would have voted for him in Ohio. But a vote for Governor Kasich in future contests makes it extremely likely that Trumpism would prevail.

I will vote for Senator Cruz and I encourage others to do so as well, so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican."

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Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren said it was time for voters of all stripes to unite together against GOP front-runner Donald Trump.


"Donald Trump is a bigger, uglier threat every day that goes by -- and it's time for decent people everywhere -- Republican, Democrat, Independent -- to say, 'No More Donald,'" Warren wrote Monday (March 14) in a Facebook post. Warren, who's not yet endorsed a Democratic candidate, is a liberal voice in Congress.




note, the source for the quote in my above-post #281 is US's NPR

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As an outsider looking in....If Trump should get the nomination when he faces up to a real politician in Clinton certainly in policy she will cut him to ribbons, she don't have the razzamatazz like the golden boy what she has is real experience in government and for us watching this circus we all hope the Trump does not make president.

As an outsider, I view his rise is due to the absolutely corrupt electoral and political system, (if you could call it a system) and the disgracefully corrupt lobbying of big business and big media whose interest run counter to the best interests of the general public.

Real politics is wasted on the masses, so if he gets the nomination, he will get elected is my take on the situation.

Obama and his ilk have screwed the nation to the point where they are going to rear up and bite someone.

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OK, so, he got the hat wrong. What about all the rest?

Can you provide links refuting it?

Good idea putting him on the ignore list, he was eating your lunch.

He was eating no one's lunch. The link I provided tells about the rest of his promotional clothing, proudly made in the US by American workers.

If he's going to make statements that are proudly but stupidly false with no links (which would larn him some things) I'm not going to read him.

Now, I just ate your lunch for you not reading my link. smile.png

Cheers.

Why don't you answer the original question? The statement from Trump that "wages were too high".

Or, how about your reaction to Trump hiring immigrant labour and outsourcing?

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Your thinking there is nothing wrong with it says a lot about your character.

Look. I am well aware of the word games people like you play and I won't fall into them. You and I both know I never said there was nothing wrong with it. You are making a false assumption about me and putting words into my mouth.

What I said was that your statement about Clinton accepting donations has nothing to do with the fact TRUMP was good buddies with her and donating to her.....a liberal.....a Democrat.....just a few years earlier.

You are the only one with character issues when you cannot discuss an issue at hand without resorting to a straw man argument.

Trump has addressed this. He said he paid her to be at his wedding and that his contributions were to pay for her support on other projects he was working on. That certainly rings true. I wonder what the Chinese will pay her? I mean the foundation of course. Accepting payments directly from a foreign government would be illegal.

Oh, well if Trump says so it must be true. I mean.... He is known to be so honest. Not like he lies every 5 seconds....

And even of it is true.... That's says a lot about Trump. Giving money to someone he claims is a criminal for personal gain.....

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Look. I am well aware of the word games people like you play and I won't fall into them. You and I both know I never said there was nothing wrong with it. You are making a false assumption about me and putting words into my mouth.

What I said was that your statement about Clinton accepting donations has nothing to do with the fact TRUMP was good buddies with her and donating to her.....a liberal.....a Democrat.....just a few years earlier.

You are the only one with character issues when you cannot discuss an issue at hand without resorting to a straw man argument.

Trump has addressed this. He said he paid her to be at his wedding and that his contributions were to pay for her support on other projects he was working on. That certainly rings true. I wonder what the Chinese will pay her? I mean the foundation of course. Accepting payments directly from a foreign government would be illegal.

Oh, well if Trump says so it must be true. I mean.... He is known to be so honest. Not like he lies every 5 seconds....

And even of it is true.... That's says a lot about Trump. Giving money to someone he claims is a criminal for personal gain.....

Well, if that's the way you see it and I'm not saying you're wrong, he has at least admitted to his part in the influence buying. Has Clinton done the same? BTW, there is no indication that Trump's contributions were in an effort to purchase influence to avoid regulations or laws or the consequences of having broken laws like many others of the Clinton contributors have.

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And even of it is true.... That's says a lot about Trump. Giving money to someone he claims is a criminal for personal gain.....

Well, if that's the way you see it and I'm not saying you're wrong, he has at least admitted to his part in the influence buying. Has Clinton done the same? BTW, there is no indication that Trump's contributions were in an effort to purchase influence to avoid regulations or laws or the consequences of having broken laws like many others of the Clinton contributors have.

Clinton and her husband have done many, many questionable things. However, buying influence is most likely not one fo them considering most people are attempting to buy influence from them. However, every time someone says something about Trump, and the automatic response from his supporters is, "Well, what about Clinton!" Well, this is a prime example of the lowest form of intellectual discourse possible.....and it has been done dozens and dozens of times throughout the thread.......

Remember, we were all taught as children that two wrongs don't make a right! Let's try not to forget this.

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And even of it is true.... That's says a lot about Trump. Giving money to someone he claims is a criminal for personal gain.....

Well, if that's the way you see it and I'm not saying you're wrong, he has at least admitted to his part in the influence buying. Has Clinton done the same? BTW, there is no indication that Trump's contributions were in an effort to purchase influence to avoid regulations or laws or the consequences of having broken laws like many others of the Clinton contributors have.

Clinton and her husband have done many, many questionable things. However, buying influence is most likely not one fo them considering most people are attempting to buy influence from them. However, every time someone says something about Trump, and the automatic response from his supporters is, "Well, what about Clinton!" Well, this is a prime example of the lowest form of intellectual discourse possible.....and it has been done dozens and dozens of times throughout the thread.......

Remember, we were all taught as children that two wrongs don't make a right! Let's try not to forget this.

I didn't say the Clinton's buy influence, they sell it. From Tyson Foods, to illegal Chinese campaign schemes to Marc Rich to UBS to Goldman Sachs, etc.

I don't speak about Trump because I don't care about Trump. I see him only as a short term phenomenon acting as foil to the pre-ordained protagonist. He is best viewed as what he represents rather than what he is. It seems to me the lowest level of discourse is saying the lines someone else wrote for you instead of thinking objectively and coming up with something original, whether it be right or wrong.

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I actually understand everything you are saying and appreciate such a reasoned response. Some others on this thread have really shown how unhinged they truly are. And I agree, that we end up for two choices and we generally have to choose the lesser of two evils.

But, here is what I don't understand....how did you come to the conclusion that Trump is indeed the lesser of two evils? I can list a million examples, but the one that really sticks out is that he has claimed, "American wages are too high". How can you reconcile voting for a billionaire who says this about other peoples (working class) wages in America?

And do you not view Trump as a habitual liar (on a dangerous level)? It is hard to get an answer to something like this as well because as you can see throughout this thread.....when a questioned like this is put forth.....it is simply ignored and re-directed with something regarding Clinton (who is also a habitual liar).

Please give links and examples for allegations. I don't buy any of what you're saying.

Trump has been bemoaning the plight of the middle class worker due to outsourced jobs and illegal immigrants competing for jobs.

I'm not a big Trump fan. I am anti, anti, anti establishment which means everything else that is available except a socialist which I could never support.

Cheers.

It is not an allegation! Here is the video of him saying it! Do you know how to use Google or Youtube? And by the way....if he was really that concrned with outsourcing jobs, why are all of his products and clothing lines made in China? His "Make America Great Again" hats are even made in China! And why has he used immigrant labor in America rather than hiring US citizens? Do you need a video link to this stuff as well? This is why I can't take you seriously. You seem blissfully unaware of the massive divide between what he says.....and what he actually does.

The vid is out of context and you're lying about Trump's promotional clothing being made in China. LINK

I'm not reading your shit anymore because of your lies and/or out of context statements.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Cheers.

Now you've done it inbangkok. The dreaded ignore list. Ouch

Megyn Kelly and the Donald are going at it. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-trump-kelly_us_56ec9b24e4b09bf44a9d6212

Don't you love it when the jackals turn on each other?

Best election ever.

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Republicans aren't voting for anything. They are voting against everything. They rejected the insiders' choice - Jeb Bush - out of hand. They rejected the insiders' next choice - Rubio - out of hand.

They are voting against decades of broken promises. They are voting against what appears to be an actual encouragement of illegal immigration and the costs that come with it. They are voting against making China rich while the American middle class suffers. They are voting against the newer trend to do the same with Mexico. They are voting against people insisting they be PC in a culture that has always prized free speech. They are voting against starting wars in God-forsaken places. They are voting against Obamacare which is a mandate that people make the health insurance companies rich out of their own pockets.

Hillary can't convince people that she would fix any of these things. She is part of the establishment that caused all of these problems. She can't run on her record because it sucks. She has a record of being sneaky and dishonest and taking big donations from foreign governments for the Clinton "foundation". She has a record of being pure sleaze. She and Bill have gotten filthy rich sucking at the teats of Wall Street and foreign governments while pretending that they are "for the little guy". What creeps. What awful, ugly creeps.

Now the ingrained corrupt R establishment is showing its true colors by scheming about how it can bump off Trump even if he has by far the most votes and replacing him with someone who didn't even bother to run. What arrogance. Wait for that explosion if they actually do it.

Americans have had enough and if someone doesn't realize it he isn't paying attention.

Cheers.

This is the most accurate snapshot yet of what motivates people toward Trump.

America is voting against... not for...

This may indeed be true... However..... It is called "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Voting for Her Royal ThighnessTM is cutting off your nose to spite your face. She's the embodiment of what's been wrong with this country for decades. She is the establishment of putting America last. She and Bill have gotten rich off the backs of the average American by accepting big fees from foreign governments and Wall Street. They are part of that culture, not our culture. They are the poster children of sleaze and phony.

Cheers.

Wow! Tough talk. Probably shouldn't vote for her if you feel that way.

It's great to be Democrat these days. What could be better than what's happening to the poor poor Republicans (sniff). Wrong about everything. All their soul killing political policies are about to die along with their party. It has to be discouraging when you see the crap going down. Trump or Cruz or Kasich or Romney or Sarah Palin, no one is going to save them.

Dems take the Presidency and the Senate. Supreme Court gains a liberal majority. Goodbye GOP don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. You had a great run of obstructionism, accomplishing absolutely nothing.

There is change coming alright.

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This may indeed be true... However..... It is called "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

This exchange right here is exactly why Trump has traction (and Sanders). People are constantly invited to support the lesser of two evils (I am working loosely with your post). I think its pretty clear there are some concerns about a Trump presidency but people on the left (see Bernie) and the right (see Trump) are sick and tired of being forced to compromise on degrees of bad, or IMO, degrees of socialism/globalism. People are supporting Trump less than they are objecting to the status quo. As a token of further rightness of their choice the Republican Party every day clarifies the issue for everyone. [They] were right all along- Republicans (RHINOs) are really no different from the other party. Its constantly false alternatives.

"Cutting of your nose to spite your face..." may be a valid outcome. You may be correct, but people are sick of being ethically compromised by false options.

I actually understand everything you are saying and appreciate such a reasoned response. Some others on this thread have really shown how unhinged they truly are. And I agree, that we end up for two choices and we generally have to choose the lesser of two evils.

But, here is what I don't understand....how did you come to the conclusion that Trump is indeed the lesser of two evils? I can list a million examples, but the one that really sticks out is that he has claimed, "American wages are too high". How can you reconcile voting for a billionaire who says this about other peoples (working class) wages in America?

And do you not view Trump as a habitual liar (on a dangerous level)? It is hard to get an answer to something like this as well because as you can see throughout this thread.....when a questioned like this is put forth.....it is simply ignored and re-directed with something regarding Clinton (who is also a habitual liar).

Please give links and examples for allegations. I don't buy any of what you're saying.

Trump has been bemoaning the plight of the middle class worker due to outsourced jobs and illegal immigrants competing for jobs.

I'm not a big Trump fan. I am anti, anti, anti establishment which means everything else that is available except a socialist which I could never support.

Cheers.

If you're "anti, anti, anti establishment" you are a fanatic and best ignored.

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I actually understand everything you are saying and appreciate such a reasoned response. Some others on this thread have really shown how unhinged they truly are. And I agree, that we end up for two choices and we generally have to choose the lesser of two evils.

But, here is what I don't understand....how did you come to the conclusion that Trump is indeed the lesser of two evils? I can list a million examples, but the one that really sticks out is that he has claimed, "American wages are too high". How can you reconcile voting for a billionaire who says this about other peoples (working class) wages in America?

And do you not view Trump as a habitual liar (on a dangerous level)? It is hard to get an answer to something like this as well because as you can see throughout this thread.....when a questioned like this is put forth.....it is simply ignored and re-directed with something regarding Clinton (who is also a habitual liar).


Please give links and examples for allegations. I don't buy any of what you're saying.

Trump has been bemoaning the plight of the middle class worker due to outsourced jobs and illegal immigrants competing for jobs.

I'm not a big Trump fan. I am anti, anti, anti establishment which means everything else that is available except a socialist which I could never support.

Cheers.




It is not an allegation! Here is the video of him saying it! Do you know how to use Google or Youtube? And by the way....if he was really that concrned with outsourcing jobs, why are all of his products and clothing lines made in China? His "Make America Great Again" hats are even made in China! And why has he used immigrant labor in America rather than hiring US citizens? Do you need a video link to this stuff as well? This is why I can't take you seriously. You seem blissfully unaware of the massive divide between what he says.....and what he actually does.


The vid is out of context and you're lying about Trump's promotional clothing being made in China. LINK

I'm not reading your shit anymore because of your lies and/or out of context statements.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Cheers.


Now you've done it inbangkok. The dreaded ignore list. Ouch

Megyn Kelly and the Donald are going at it. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-trump-kelly_us_56ec9b24e4b09bf44a9d6212

Don't you love it when the jackals turn on each other?

Best election ever.


Yeah, it's just out of control at this point. Someone ignores me after I provide video evidence of something and they of course claim I am taking it out of context..... You can't make this stuff up.

As for the Kelly/Trump fight. I tell you...... It is absolutely hilarious how people say Trump will be a great leader, stand up to Putin and North Korea, tells it like it is....blah, blah, blah,.... All the typical shit we have been hearing from these uneducated people. Yet look at the reality of the situation. He is a thinned skin little man who cannot even handle a fair and honest question from a journalist. All Kelly ever did was quote his own words and ask for a comment on them. That's all..... And Trump throws nothing short of a raging temper tantrum. Yeah! Real leadership material right there. All you Trump supports should be seriously ashamed of yourselves for turning our great country into such a mockery!
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This may indeed be true... However..... It is called "cutting off your nose to spite your face".
This exchange right here is exactly why Trump has traction (and Sanders). People are constantly invited to support the lesser of two evils (I am working loosely with your post). I think its pretty clear there are some concerns about a Trump presidency but people on the left (see Bernie) and the right (see Trump) are sick and tired of being forced to compromise on degrees of bad, or IMO, degrees of socialism/globalism. People are supporting Trump less than they are objecting to the status quo. As a token of further rightness of their choice the Republican Party every day clarifies the issue for everyone. [They] were right all along- Republicans (RHINOs) are really no different from the other party. Its constantly false alternatives.

"Cutting of your nose to spite your face..." may be a valid outcome. You may be correct, but people are sick of being ethically compromised by false options.


I actually understand everything you are saying and appreciate such a reasoned response. Some others on this thread have really shown how unhinged they truly are. And I agree, that we end up for two choices and we generally have to choose the lesser of two evils.

But, here is what I don't understand....how did you come to the conclusion that Trump is indeed the lesser of two evils? I can list a million examples, but the one that really sticks out is that he has claimed, "American wages are too high". How can you reconcile voting for a billionaire who says this about other peoples (working class) wages in America?

And do you not view Trump as a habitual liar (on a dangerous level)? It is hard to get an answer to something like this as well because as you can see throughout this thread.....when a questioned like this is put forth.....it is simply ignored and re-directed with something regarding Clinton (who is also a habitual liar).

Please give links and examples for allegations. I don't buy any of what you're saying.

Trump has been bemoaning the plight of the middle class worker due to outsourced jobs and illegal immigrants competing for jobs.

I'm not a big Trump fan. I am anti, anti, anti establishment which means everything else that is available except a socialist which I could never support.

Cheers.


If you're "anti, anti, anti establishment" you are a fanatic and best ignored.


It's scary how convinced these people are that they are the rational ones.....
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"Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs"

"Donald Trump wanted to market a line of men’s clothing that would bear his name."

"Documents and interviews reveal the personal role Trump played in negotiating the deal." laugh.png

"Participants said they could not recall him expressing a preference that products be made in the United States."

"Today, Donald J. Trump Collection shirts — as well as eye­glasses, perfume, cuff links and suits — are made in Bangladesh, China, Honduras and other low-wage countries."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-decries-outsourced-labor-yet-he-didnt-seek-made-in-america-in-2004-deal/2016/03/13/4d65a43c-e63a-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html

That is what's called hypocrisy folks. thumbsup.gif

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.IB:

I see you still haven't mastered that Quote function?

I am quite confident that I have mastered simply clicking a "quote" button. Perhaps it is a bug in the mobile app? Either way, not something I am very concerned about......

The quotes all look fine to me when I am on my phone or tablet. The formating only appears messed up when I view it on my PC.

But please feel free to continue making sarcastic remarks if it makes you feel better about yourself.

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From his home in Chang Mai up in Northern Thailand, financial guru Dr Marc Faber was interviewed by Bloomberg and made the following remark

interviewer: Are you really a fan of Mr. Trump, Marc? Do you really believe...?

FABER: It is all relative. Given the alternatives, I would vote for Mr. Trump, because he may only destroy the U.S. economy, but Hillary Clinton will destroy the whole world. Look at her nation building in the Middle East, how successful that has been thumbsup.gif

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Your thinking there is nothing wrong with it says a lot about your character.

Look. I am well aware of the word games people like you play and I won't fall into them. You and I both know I never said there was nothing wrong with it. You are making a false assumption about me and putting words into my mouth.

What I said was that your statement about Clinton accepting donations has nothing to do with the fact TRUMP was good buddies with her and donating to her.....a liberal.....a Democrat.....just a few years earlier.

You are the only one with character issues when you cannot discuss an issue at hand without resorting to a straw man argument.

Trump has addressed this. He said he paid her to be at his wedding and that his contributions were to pay for her support on other projects he was working on. That certainly rings true. I wonder what the Chinese will pay her? I mean the foundation of course. Accepting payments directly from a foreign government would be illegal.

Accepting payments directly from a foreign government would be illegal.

However, political hack innuendo is not, especially when it comes from the usual suspects out over there.
The Institutional Republican Party is scrambling to try to deal effectively with Himself but the right continues to ignore him while trying simultaneously to deflect an ideological attention to the usual and favorite other.
Trump and the Republicans will arrive in Cleveland in mid-July to the Republican National Riot Convention in a disarray that already far exceeds its electoral wipeout precipitated by their nominating the rightwinger Sen. Barry Goldwater in 1964.
As to the CCP Dictators in Beijing, their nads shrivel when the Boyz think of a Potus Hillary Clinton because they fear and detest her more than the rightwhinge does.
Let's also talk about the founder and headman of Trump University where it could seem not everyone who sat there or could have sat there likes to admit to it.
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