webfact Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 6 officers ordered to apologize dead victimYALA: -- Six army officers accused of beating to death an army private in Yala province have been ordered to apologize in front of the victim’s body placed at a temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat province.A well-informed military source said that Lt-Gen Vivath Pathompark, commander of the 4th army region, was concerned with the tragic incident and ordered the top superior of the six alleged perpetrators to apologize the victim, Pvt Songtham Moodmud, at Wat Kongkawadee in Tambon Saopao, Sichon district as demanded by the mother’s victim.The victim’s mother, Mrs Chitra Chormanee, earlier warned that she would not cremate her son unless the six officers make an apology in front of his body. She also threatened to petition Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha to seek justice.The funeral ceremony at Wat Kongkawadee was quiet today (Thursday) with only relatives of the victim were present. Expenses of the funeral were funded by Tambon Saopao Administrative Organization.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/158654 -- Thai PBS 2016-04-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly2007 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Is that all??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merylhighground Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I guess that'll make it OK then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Thais turning on thais!.....I don't believe it..............false pride raises it's ugly head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 So let me get this straight - Six officers beat one serviceman to death and no inquiry about it, no court marshall, nor anything else done, but presented an apology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Apologizing... good...that will bring him back from being dead for sure.... Edited April 7, 2016 by ezzra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 So let me get this straight - Six officers beat one serviceman to death and no inquiry about it, no court marshall, nor anything else done, but presented an apology? We do not know the full story do we? Maybe there was an inquiry , maybe even a military trial. Still they need to pay respect to the dead , it's a buddhist thing.... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Shame no remorse was seen forth coming from a persons responsible really shows no respect as humans , let alone the uniform just another day in the jungle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 So let me get this straight - Six officers beat one serviceman to death and no inquiry about it, no court marshall, nor anything else done, but presented an apology? Looks like that's it. All is forgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) "Six army officers accused of beating to death an army private in Yala province have been ordered to apologize in front of the victim’s body placed at a temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat province." Is that not going to compromise any future trial if they are going to plead not guilty? Edited April 7, 2016 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 They should be tried for murder in a civilian court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 "Six army officers accused of beating to death an army private in Yala province have been ordered to apologize in front of the victim’s body placed at a temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat province." Is that not going to compromise any future trial if they are going to plead not guilty? A defence lawyer in any half decent legal system would have a fit at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 So let me get this straight - Six officers beat one serviceman to death and no inquiry about it, no court marshall, nor anything else done, but presented an apology? Ahhh see now there's a difference, now if they were splashing water at him with a red bowl then that is gaol time for treason, it all about balance ok. Isn't that right junta fanboys. How about a murder charge for the six mongrels that beat this poor guy to death and a very clear message to the military AND uni's that do this crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Oh, and you seriously believe soldiers would (1) be tried in a civil court, like anywhere else in the world (sarcasm) and (2) any outcome would be an improvement on military one? Edited April 8, 2016 by dageurreotype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 you can kill as long as you apologize and that is "Thainess" farang not understand RiP young man and hope justice, not apology, reigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 So let me get this straight - Six officers beat one serviceman to death and no inquiry about it, no court marshall, nor anything else done, but presented an apology? Ahhh see now there's a difference, now if they were splashing water at him with a red bowl then that is gaol time for treason, it all about balance ok. Isn't that right junta fanboys. How about a murder charge for the six mongrels that beat this poor guy to death and a very clear message to the military AND uni's that do this crap... Congratulations! You have managed to sink to an all new low, using the death of a soldier at the hands of his own officers to make your political point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyinasia Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 What are they going to say..."Err, sorry we formed a cowardly six man team to beat you to death, after all you were one guy so we know we couldn't do it one on one, we promise not to do it to you again?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 So let me get this straight - Six officers beat one serviceman to death and no inquiry about it, no court marshall, nor anything else done, but presented an apology? You gotta think like a Thai: my god, think about how much face they lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Unfortunately, this tragedy is a tip of an iceberg. Every year, new recruits get killed, put into ICU, or commit suicide. The initial one months 'training' where no contact is permitted by recruits to anyone including family members, is designed to beat anything the SAS could conceive. My wife's son got conscripted, he lost 14 kilos in one month, by way of inedible diet, saw several of his comrades experience death or near death happenings, but was warned by the captain NOT to tell his mother on her eventual visit. Fortunately, he is a strong, brave lad with good manners, and the captain considered him to be a worthy recruit. He passed out with flying colours, but now has to suffer another month of hard training before his next job of being a security guard on a munitions dump. The upside of those many who make it, is they turn these boys into men (enforcing traditional Thai values of respect), which for Thai youths, most of whom are pampered from birth, is a good thing. He'll have no trouble finding a wife, and will make a good family man - I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 "Six army officers accused of beating to death an army private in Yala province have been ordered to apologize in front of the victim’s body placed at a temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat province." Is that not going to compromise any future trial if they are going to plead not guilty? Have you ever been in a Thai court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 "Six army officers accused of beating to death an army private in Yala province have been ordered to apologize in front of the victim’s body placed at a temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat province." Is that not going to compromise any future trial if they are going to plead not guilty? At this point they're probably only hoping a judge might consider it a sign of good faith for a plea deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 It's what the mother wants. Maybe it'll help her to come to terms with what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 transffered to inactive posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 All sorted... right onto the next beating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 ....how about being charged for murder...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familyaffairs Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Its only a nobody's child.....so that makes it okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 That's it? Just apologise and all will be forgiven? No criminal charges, court martial... really? I have never been in the service so I don't know how these sort of things work, but surely, if these idiots were responsible for the death of the private, something more than an apology is necessary? Or is this just Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Better yet, bind each of the monsters involved in this and allow each family member to try on a pair of army boots and give each soldier a good solid kick to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 "Six army officers accused of beating to death an army private in Yala province have been ordered to apologize in front of the victim’s body placed at a temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat province." Is that not going to compromise any future trial if they are going to plead not guilty? they were ordered to do it therefore it was not genuine. does not count so can not be used to incriminate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 So let me get this straight - Six officers beat one serviceman to death and no inquiry about it, no court marshall, nor anything else done, but presented an apology? Ahhh see now there's a difference, now if they were splashing water at him with a red bowl then that is gaol time for treason, it all about balance ok.Isn't that right junta fanboys. How about a murder charge for the six mongrels that beat this poor guy to death and a very clear message to the military AND uni's that do this crap... Congratulations! You have managed to sink to an all new low, using the death of a soldier at the hands of his own officers to make your political point. Sorry to inform you of the facts but, most soldiers die due to a political point, this is usually one country's political point verses another country's political point. Also within a country the deaths of it's soldiers and civilians are the result of political points. welcome to reality. Now my point was not intended as a political point score but a simple pointing out that where are the soldiers now? not in gaol? And where is the woman that was arrested and charged with treason for having a red bowl? You see the balance now? that was my intent, but ok mate my apologies. Bastardization is common in the military all over the world be it right or wrong, it's also called hazing in Thai Uni's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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