Do you pay her a salary? (I do.)

[ardokano]

As a test , tell your wife something terrible happened back home and you will be without your salary/pension for the next 6 months. "But don't worry darling we'll manage somehow". Then let's see if everyone will contribute in the family so you will survive , the hard working relatives that you helped in the past financially , will they return the favor ? Will your wife be there for you and be understanding about the money situation ? Maybe even try to find a job ? After 6 months you will probably be a lot wiser.

you decided to marry someone and then decide to come up with a test afterwards? Good plan!

better later than never..

[ardokano]

Right. so as I give my missus a chunk of coin every month to take care of household expenses that would be a budget.

So that makes her a whore ?

Only if she stopped having sex with you and left if you missed a payment.

If you said, no money this month, I'm broke, and she said, that's OK dear we'll manage somehow = not a whore.

Cleaning and cooking for money = maid/housekeeper.

Sex for money = whore.

100%

only small correction

Cleaning and cooking only for money = maid/housekeeper.

Sex only for money = whore.

[BritManToo]

One day you'll work it out. No woman anywhere dreams of pairing off with a creep or a depressive.

Unless said creep/depressive has a decent pension.

[BritManToo]

If you are raising children here, please at least offer them the same opportunites your western countries offered you.

I'm not entirely sure those opportunities still exist in the UK, for newcomers.

Free university education ......... gone.

Apprenticeships .......... gone.

Company pensions .......... gone.

State pension .......... doubtful.

Free health care ........ doubtful.

I wouldn't want to be starting out in the UK today. It was a LOT easier in the 60s and 70s.

At least in Thailand kids have a chance to buy a house and land on a modest wage, something becoming nearly impossible in the UK.

[ardokano]

No I do not pay my wife to be with me, you pay a hooker or someone who works for you, anyway she has a good job and earns white a good salery

So how she get money?

Ask yo evry time: Please give me money(10-30000b) for tampon, cosmetics, icecreame, bag, shoes... etc?

or you just give She acces to you account(s) in bank and she spend money how much she need?

Reading between the lines there ardokano I suspect i claudiius wife has a job and does not need to ask for money.

So She pay for him?

PS

Ask and NEEDS its two different thinks.

[ardokano]

If you are raising children here, please at least offer them the same opportunites your western countries offered you.

I'm not entirely sure those opportunities still exist in the UK, for newcomers.

Free university education ......... gone.

Apprenticeships .......... gone.

Company pensions .......... gone.

State pension .......... doubtful.

Free health care ........ doubtful.

I wouldn't want to be starting out in the UK today. It was a LOT easier in the 60s and 70s.

You compare UK 60s-70s with UK todays

But not compare with Thailand.

Free university education ......... gone. Still have grant , and ofcouse get job with goodsalary much more chance than after Thai university.

State pension .......... doubtful. -But its still highest than Thailand salary

Free health care ........ doubtful. But its still much better than in Thailand. In Thailand even 99% can die from some heart disease if you not near some Hospital..

In UK its chance much less..

[ardokano]

At least in Thailand kids have a chance to buy a house and land on a modest wage, something becoming nearly impossible in the UK.

Only some of this is the use if they are even larger salary can not get quality? Or as example will be killed but the road?

[uthaithanirules]

If you are raising children here, please at least offer them the same opportunites your western countries offered you.

If you are raising children here, please at least offer them the same opportunites your western countries offered you.

I'm not entirely sure those opportunities still exist in the UK, for newcomers.

Free university education ......... gone.

Apprenticeships .......... gone.

Company pensions .......... gone.

State pension .......... doubtful.

Free health care ........ doubtful.

I wouldn't want to be starting out in the UK today. It was a LOT easier in the 60s and 70s.

At least in Thailand kids have a chance to buy a house and land on a modest wage, something becoming nearly impossible in the UK.

I have already bet on a better future for my kids in Thailand than in a western country

[uthaithanirules]

Drivel

It's not a choice between

mammon or subsistence.

Things simply aren't that

polarized. There are plenty

of shades in between that

don't require Thais to lose

their cultural distinctiveness.

Maybe you prefer those in

the rural areas to stay where

they are developmentally

since it provides you with a

large pool of partners with

financial imperatives that a

"sugar daddy" can address

in return for a piece of ass.

Except things are just that polarized though arent they?

[BritManToo]

Free health care ........ doubtful. But its still much better than in Thailand. In Thailand even 99% can die from some heart disease if you not near some Hospital..

In UK its chance much less..

Sorry, absolutely nothing wrong with the Thai government healthcare.

Next doors kid just spent 10 nights in Suan Dok hospital (referred from our local Nakorn Ping). They asked for a 300bht donation for expensive drugs.

Next doors grandma has diabetes, high blood pressure and liver problems, in Suan Dok every month for checkups and usually admitted for a week or two each year (she forgets to take her meds) all totally free.

Not to mention, in the UK I have to pay for the car park, about 4GBP/hr. If I'd been visiting a kid in a UK hospital for 10 days, the car parking fees would have exceeded any Thai hospital fees.

[balo]

I used dating sites a lot and still would and i have met many ladies and some are very nice. However every single lady i met had some form of quite strong previous connection with Western men. Many are prostitutes, many were prostitutes, many had ex Western boyfriends and the rest had friends or family who had been successful in meeting Western men. I have my eyes open and am aware of these things and will date these ladies accordingly, but ultimately their aims and ambitions are similar to that of a girl working at a bar. In short most will be ideally looking for a provider man via indirect payment, some of those will opt for direct payment as a substitute, others are looking just for direct payment and they have their methods to achieve this. I suspect TDKK is simply warning of caution with regard to dating sites.

I really don't get it. I must be so stupid that a god took pity on me and found me a Thai woman who is nothing like this.

My (now) wife has many very nice looking self sufficient friends all working for an international company who are very single and looking.

Some of these girls are very pretty (all over 30 if that matters), have cars, live in a nice place, etc.....

But you didnt' find her on a dating site did you?

[YeahSiam]

Drivel

It's not a choice between

mammon or subsistence.

Things simply aren't that

polarized. There are plenty

of shades in between that

don't require Thais to lose

their cultural distinctiveness.

Maybe you prefer those in

the rural areas to stay where

they are developmentally

since it provides you with a

large pool of partners with

financial imperatives that a

"sugar daddy" can address

in return for a piece of ass.

Except things are just that polarized though arent they?

Probably seems that

way in your "only

falang in the village"

setting but almost

every contributor to

this thread knows

otherwise.

[uthaithanirules]

Probably seems that

way in your "only

falang in the village"

setting but almost

every contributor to

this thread knows

otherwise.

Yes, because most here seem to be either posting from laptops while sitting on bar stools in Pattaya or Phuket.....or they are in Bangkok married to some wonderful non-golddigger who can earn something of a wage (becuase she is in Bangkok), end up shelling out pretty much as much as I do with the extra expense of living in Bangkok

There doesnt seem to be that many here, that are actually in Nowhere-kon-sawan, the ones that are all seem to be in the DIY forums, posting about how do I fix my solar installation, how do I find a thai bulider thats not a retard

On the polarization, thing, back in the west. Especially on the tertiary education thing, Back anywhere in falangland, is any tertiary qualification as valueable now or the years to come as it was in the 70s, 80s?

My kids are only 9 and 6 at the moment, so its a far way off. But, and I'm being very serious here, why exactly would they be better off me bringing them to Aus to get a degree, with maybe a 25% chance of them ending up in a job that has anything to do with the degree they studied for, at 3 times the cost. Then if they stayed in Australia it would be the next 30 years only managing to pay off 2/3 of some ridiculous mortage.

Realtively speaking Thai tertiary education may be useless, but still ups the ante, they can land a job in tourism or hotels, and third of the cost, so I can buy them either house and land each, or even some basic condo in Bangkok if they want to work there.

I'm being very serious. 500K baht for a thai degree, 1 million for a home ( into todays money, not what it will be in 10/15 tears), AUD$55,000

Why why WHY? exactly would that money be better used bringing them to Aus to get a degree? Hell, it would be at least $20,000 a year just in living expenses. So it would be all of that $55,000 just on living expenses and then some for a three year course, then the cost of the course itself and no house

With them and the wife now, its real estate in Thailand vs the west thats the real biggy

Are we in the west, even going to go back to what it was like in the 70s and 80s, well, end of WWII to the 80s really. I dont really see it happening

[AlexRRR]

So you want everyone to believe that every guy you know that married a prostitute is having a great marriage. But you can't believe that my wife put 1 million of her own money for sinsod? Just goes to explain how screwed up the average poster is here.

Btw, times change buddy. Even women in Thailand have a career and a choice so they don't have to prostitute themselves. Has nothing to do if ones wife is hiso or not.

And btw I accept your challenge or anyone for that matter. I can prove it that my wife put sinsod and also transferred money to my account for marriage visa. I can also prove I live rent free in her house. Since this proof would require my identity to be exposed I am willing to do a bet. Say 5 million baht. Do you accept?

May I ask what is your contribution to your marriage?

I would feel very unhappy and uncomfortable in your situation ..

My GF is a Loso from Isan and after reading all these posts I get the message I live with a parasitical hooker. It may all be true but after 16 very happy years together I wonder what I did wrong/right?

I always paid a "salary", with this money she does what she wants, I know that the biggest part goes to her family which gave them a better life as well. To those who like to use this post to insult other members I would like to point out that this forum allows personal opinions which can defer from yours. Calling other members GF or wife a hooker is in my opinion not in line with this forum etiquette.

Another hypocritical post.

You all pretend to be non judgmental, but you always judge people who seem to find women that don't require a payment to be in a relationship. I understand it is an envy thing.

So, my question to you is what do you care what my contribution to the marriage is? What's your wife's contribution?

And guys like you are always quick to be offended, but what is actually offensive is that you put my wife in the same category as a prostitute by constantly claiming that "everyone pays for sex" in Thailand. Therefore, I will keep emphasizing that my wife is not a hooker and requires no monthly payment. Further, she actually helped me financially to settle in Thailand as I mentioned in many previous posts. Live with it.

I am also glad that many "Farang" love their wife's family more than their own. This is why you get no respect. Your family should come first, but you are paying your wife's family to be loved and accepted. Who does that?

He's got something there guys, haha, your Thai partner in most cases would put you second third fourth even last, blood is very thick in Asia.

I said it before you pay your partner a wage it's pure control in your eyes though this is not to be confused with house keeping money, if they don't have a job there lazy end of story, I bet everyone of us has a sister who held a job raised kids ran a house and looked after a husband, Thais in general are lazy, sure they work and they think hard but the minuet they leave that office there out of get up and go unless it's shopping or socialising.....

After 4 educated TGF I've seen enough, there great as a gf, stay over for the weekend, travel with but not to live with, can't cook more than basic, never clean more than basic, last one never picked up a broom, they all thought they worked hard ........those Filipinos are starting to look good if you want a live in partner.

[i claudius]

I took a similar approach to PT4.

My new girlfriend worked at a massage shop (not sexy) I enquired about her earnings, did my calculations and asked her how much she would like in salary if she lived with me and 'take care. She asked for 25k bart to start with, quickly backed down to $20k and I offered $15k which I understood was the Pattaya rate - some pay a bit more. This was accepted. I also buy all the food, clothing, make up etc and gifts from time to time. It's a good deal for me as she take care and cleans, cooks etc and is careful with money.

I don't want to appear rude but that sounds like you "hire a friend with benefits"

Most people go out with a woman for a time,its called courting ,you get engaged then get married,

[totally thaied up]

I used dating sites a lot and still would and i have met many ladies and some are very nice. However every single lady i met had some form of quite strong previous connection with Western men. Many are prostitutes, many were prostitutes, many had ex Western boyfriends and the rest had friends or family who had been successful in meeting Western men. I have my eyes open and am aware of these things and will date these ladies accordingly, but ultimately their aims and ambitions are similar to that of a girl working at a bar. In short most will be ideally looking for a provider man via indirect payment, some of those will opt for direct payment as a substitute, others are looking just for direct payment and they have their methods to achieve this. I suspect TDKK is simply warning of caution with regard to dating sites.

I really don't get it. I must be so stupid that a god took pity on me and found me a Thai woman who is nothing like this.

My (now) wife has many very nice looking self sufficient friends all working for an international company who are very single and looking.

Some of these girls are very pretty (all over 30 if that matters), have cars, live in a nice place, etc.....

Hmmm.... God works in mysterious ways. I am much more like the devil... lol

Just came back from an NGO meeting (HIV for children) over lunch. I was with about 30 Thai ladies that work for banks or health organisations, etc. , et. We were talking about a coming event we are planning next week. Not one of these girls could speak English, were well educated (min of a degree) and were not remotely interested in looking for a farang.

I think that these are the 'real' average girl (that are educated and not from some buffalo farm) and well out of reach for the average farang that is here for just a few weeks or has no hope of learning Thai at all. I deal a lot out in various schools and have met hundreds of female school teachers and once again, the English skills are minimal and for any guy trying to find a lady here, the odds are against them.

Odds are in the working girls favour. Many are actively seeking someone and they can re-invent themselves quite easy. I can remember a few years ago meeting a stunning Thai go-go dancer. She had worked Soi Cowboy and was earning over 120,000 a month. She was back in Chiang Mai having time with her parents and she was having drinks with a Mamasan that she had worked for before. We spoke in depth about her work and I will always remember what she said to me.

"Who do you want me to be tonight?"

Reinvention at its finest

[Scotwight]

I took a similar approach to PT4.

My new girlfriend worked at a massage shop (not sexy) I enquired about her earnings, did my calculations and asked her how much she would like in salary if she lived with me and 'take care. She asked for 25k bart to start with, quickly backed down to $20k and I offered $15k which I understood was the Pattaya rate - some pay a bit more. This was accepted. I also buy all the food, clothing, make up etc and gifts from time to time. It's a good deal for me as she take care and cleans, cooks etc and is careful with money.

I don't want to appear rude but that sounds like you "hire a friend with benefits"

Most people go out with a woman for a time,its called courting ,you get engaged then get married,

A lot of happy men call it "short time" and then go have a beer and watch the footy.

[AlexRRR]

I used dating sites a lot and still would and i have met many ladies and some are very nice. However every single lady i met had some form of quite strong previous connection with Western men. Many are prostitutes, many were prostitutes, many had ex Western boyfriends and the rest had friends or family who had been successful in meeting Western men. I have my eyes open and am aware of these things and will date these ladies accordingly, but ultimately their aims and ambitions are similar to that of a girl working at a bar. In short most will be ideally looking for a provider man via indirect payment, some of those will opt for direct payment as a substitute, others are looking just for direct payment and they have their methods to achieve this. I suspect TDKK is simply warning of caution with regard to dating sites.

I really don't get it. I must be so stupid that a god took pity on me and found me a Thai woman who is nothing like this.

My (now) wife has many very nice looking self sufficient friends all working for an international company who are very single and looking.

Some of these girls are very pretty (all over 30 if that matters), have cars, live in a nice place, etc.....

Hmmm.... God works in mysterious ways. I am much more like the devil... lol

Just came back from an NGO meeting (HIV for children) over lunch. I was with about 30 Thai ladies that work for banks or health organisations, etc. , et. We were talking about a coming event we are planning next week. Not one of these girls could speak English, were well educated (min of a degree) and were not remotely interested in looking for a farang.

I think that these are the 'real' average girl (that are educated and not from some buffalo farm) and well out of reach for the average farang that is here for just a few weeks or has no hope of learning Thai at all. I deal a lot out in various schools and have met hundreds of female school teachers and once again, the English skills are minimal and for any guy trying to find a lady here, the odds are against them.

Odds are in the working girls favour. Many are actively seeking someone and they can re-invent themselves quite easy. I can remember a few years ago meeting a stunning Thai go-go dancer. She had worked Soi Cowboy and was earning over 120,000 a month. She was back in Chiang Mai having time with her parents and she was having drinks with a Mamasan that she had worked for before. We spoke in depth about her work and I will always remember what she said to me.

"Who do you want me to be tonight?"

Reinvention at its finest

My last TGF spoke very good English, in fact all 4 did, all educated all had very good jobs and 2 with masters degree....obviously we travel in different circles.

[AlexRRR]

I took a similar approach to PT4.

My new girlfriend worked at a massage shop (not sexy) I enquired about her earnings, did my calculations and asked her how much she would like in salary if she lived with me and 'take care. She asked for 25k bart to start with, quickly backed down to $20k and I offered $15k which I understood was the Pattaya rate - some pay a bit more. This was accepted. I also buy all the food, clothing, make up etc and gifts from time to time. It's a good deal for me as she take care and cleans, cooks etc and is careful with money.

I don't want to appear rude but that sounds like you "hire a friend with benefits"

Most people go out with a woman for a time,its called courting ,you get engaged then get married,

A lot of happy men call it "short time" and then go have a beer and watch the footy.

Yep....buying ur partner....control.....and you'd have to be a looser to do it, the thing is only the lower rung of society back in your own country hang around together unless of course your an emotional cripple or control freak.....

[uthaithanirules]

My last TGF spoke very good English, in fact all 4 did, all educated all had very good jobs and 2 with masters degree....obviously we travel in different circles.

Ok, now how does that make a difference?

I assume at least 3 of those 4 are now ex-girlfriends

Did you go out with them because they had a masters degree? or because they way they looked in a short skirt?

[YeahSiam]

Probably seems that

way in your "only

falang in the village"

setting but almost

every contributor to

this thread knows

otherwise.

Yes, because most here seem to be either posting from laptops while sitting on bar stools in Pattaya or Phuket.....or they are in Bangkok married to some wonderful non-golddigger who can earn something of a wage (becuase she is in Bangkok), end up shelling out pretty much as much as I do with the extra expense of living in Bangkok

There doesnt seem to be that many here, that are actually in Nowhere-kon-sawan, the ones that are all seem to be in the DIY forums, posting about how do I fix my solar installation, how do I find a thai bulider thats not a retard

On the polarization, thing, back in the west. Especially on the tertiary education thing, Back anywhere in falangland, is any tertiary qualification as valueable now or the years to come as it was in the 70s, 80s?

My kids are only 9 and 6 at the moment, so its a far way off. But, and I'm being very serious here, why exactly would they be better off me bringing them to Aus to get a degree, with maybe a 25% chance of them ending up in a job that has anything to do with the degree they studied for, at 3 times the cost. Then if they stayed in Australia it would be the next 30 years only managing to pay off 2/3 of some ridiculous mortage.

Realtively speaking Thai tertiary education may be useless, but still ups the ante, they can land a job in tourism or hotels, and third of the cost, so I can buy them either house and land each, or even some basic condo in Bangkok if they want to work there.

I'm being very serious. 500K baht for a thai degree, 1 million for a home ( into todays money, not what it will be in 10/15 tears), AUD$55,000

Why why WHY? exactly would that money be better used bringing them to Aus to get a degree? Hell, it would be at least $20,000 a year just in living expenses. So it would be all of that $55,000 just on living expenses and then some for a three year course, then the cost of the course itself and no house

With them and the wife now, its real estate in Thailand vs the west thats the real biggy

Are we in the west, even going to go back to what it was like in the 70s and 80s, well, end of WWII to the 80s really. I dont really see it happening

Tangential ranting

doesn't make your

point any less dumb

than it was to begin

with.

Ultimately, you're

paying a woman and,

by extension, her

family, to pretend

they like you. I find it

difficult to imagine a

more ignominious

end to a life

[Don Mega]

Wow all this talk about degrees and education.

Whilst the holders of such qualifications have nice pretty pieces of paper to show family and friends out in the real world a roll of 2 ply paper that one wipes the ass with has more actual value and cred.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Wow all this talk about degrees and education.

Whilst the holders of such qualifications have nice pretty pieces of paper to show family and friends out in the real world a roll of 2 ply paper that one wipes the ass with has more actual value and cred.

That may be true in the west, but completely wrong in Thailand.

[BritManToo]

Wow all this talk about degrees and education.

Whilst the holders of such qualifications have nice pretty pieces of paper to show family and friends out in the real world a roll of 2 ply paper that one wipes the ass with has more actual value and cred.

That may be true in the west, but completely wrong in Thailand.

Try getting a government job in the UK without one?

[SoiBiker]

Wow all this talk about degrees and education.

Whilst the holders of such qualifications have nice pretty pieces of paper to show family and friends out in the real world a roll of 2 ply paper that one wipes the ass with has more actual value and cred.

Good luck getting a work permit without one.

[ttthailand]

Ask your woman why she loves you and you may start to see the light. If the only thing she says is because you take good care of me, meaning giving her money, then you know that her love is based on you paying her or buying love. If she also says because you excite me, because you are handsome, because you are a good man then perhaps you have something. Is she only a good times girl or will she stand by your side if things go bad ? Will be be by your bed side when you are sick ? Will she stay if you loose your income and need to cut back on expenses ? Will she stay if she gets a better offer ? Any time money plays a major factor in a relationship there is always the question if that is all there is.

I like the old fashion way of dating and getting to know each other and falling in love with money never coming into play. If the relationship can make it past the first year or two without money then I think you got a real chance for true love. Call me old fashion

[ttthailand]

Wow all this talk about degrees and education.

Whilst the holders of such qualifications have nice pretty pieces of paper to show family and friends out in the real world a roll of 2 ply paper that one wipes the ass with has more actual value and cred.

Good luck getting a work permit without one.

Without a degree in Thailand you as a Thai will find it very difficult to find any job that pays well. Even most government jobs require a degree here. If no degree you are stuck in the lower levels and can not move up. If you are a farmer or a plumber or an electrician it don't really matter but if you notice few of those make any real money. There are many technical colleges here that provide training and a step up but it will still be unlikely that you progress about a supervisor. Upper management requires a degree unless daddy gives you the job. It's the way of life .... Some exceptions to the rule but few .

Find a girl and your love the old fashion way, by dating, and if possible an educated one so she can take care of herself if necessary.

[Don Mega]

Wow all this talk about degrees and education.

Whilst the holders of such qualifications have nice pretty pieces of paper to show family and friends out in the real world a roll of 2 ply paper that one wipes the ass with has more actual value and cred.

Good luck getting a work permit without one.

I dont have a degree.

[BritManToo]

I'm being very serious. 500K baht for a thai degree, 1 million for a home ( into todays money, not what it will be in 10/15 tears), AUD$55,000

Bit expensive for the Thai degree, Rajabhat University Chiang Mai, currently charge 25k a year for their 4 year courses.

So 100k plus living expenses.

[BritManToo]

I like the old fashion way of dating and getting to know each other and falling in love with money never coming into play. If the relationship can make it past the first year or two without money then I think you got a real chance for true love. Call me old fashion

I'm over 60 years old, not enough time left to bother with that nonsense, not to mention no woman I wanted would want me. Call me old fashion