BIGTOE3 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Lampard will struggle against the top dogs. Not sure how Mourinho will use him when we race next season. Same for JT. New breed coming I reckon. Same for JT??? Dunno what games you've been watching........ Not sure how Mourinho will use JT next season.Any ideas mjj.? JT has been as good as any CB this year and fully deserves to be a starter. Personally, I think Mourinho will try to keep Lampard, JT, Cech and Ivan for as long as possible, so long as it isn't too detrimental to the team. In other words you want STABILITY ? BT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Lampard will struggle against the top dogs. Not sure how Mourinho will use him when we race next season. Same for JT. New breed coming I reckon. Same for JT??? Dunno what games you've been watching........ Not sure how Mourinho will use JT next season.Any ideas mjj.? JT has been as good as any CB this year and fully deserves to be a starter. Personally, I think Mourinho will try to keep Lampard, JT, Cech and Ivan for as long as possible, so long as it isn't too detrimental to the team. In other words you want STABILITY ? BT No. Above is what I think Jose will do, not what I want. JT is a starter. Cech is a starter, although the Courtois situation is a difficult one. Lampard is a chelsea hero, but without sentiment he wouldn't start. Ivan is an excellent fall back guy that can play as either CB or RB, but his crossing and shooting can be wayward to say the least. Next year I would like Chelsea to add Shaw to the back line and someone like Costa to lead the attack. In midfield we are over subscribed, so players can be sold. Maybe Mikel and or Ramires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Who wouldn't want Costa and Shaw! Do you actually need Shaw though? I heard talk of a 31m euro price tag on Costa but would have thought that was an unrealistic valuation. You'd have to pay a lot more, especially if he continues to impress in La Liga and the CL. Falcao's valuation was something around 60m and when he wakes up and realizes that playing in front of 5000 every other week is selling himself short he might well be open to talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Falcao to me is a no-no. A huge price tag with an injury that may effect his performance. Is has a massive banana skin factor. A back line of Dave, Cahill, JT and Shaw would be great with Ivan as cover for 3 of the positions, Dave's ability for 2 positions and Luiz if need be. Shaw obviously has the draw of being homegrown. We need another striker to give us options. If we start with Costa, Lukaku and Eto next season we will be in good health. To raise funds, the sale of Torres (6p), Mikel, Ramires, Ba, Moses and Marin should get a few quid. Edited April 10, 2014 by mjj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'd bet Costa is the main target, which isn't a surprise. The prototypical Mourinho striker, an in the box, big motor street fighter. I hope it doesn't happen, but I wouldn't bet against it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Falcao to me is a no-no. A huge price tag with an injury that may effect his performance. Is has a massive banana skin factor. A back line of Dave, Cahill, JT and Shaw would be great with Ivan as cover for 3 of the positions, Dave's ability for 2 positions and Luiz if need be. Shaw obviously has the draw of being homegrown. We need another striker to give us options. If we start with Costa, Lukaku and Eto next season we will be in good health. To raise funds, the sale of Torres (6p), Mikel, Ramires, Ba, Moses and Marin should get a few quid. Just my opinion.....I doubt if Lukaku will be a Chelsea player. But, if he is, I think he needs to be played......not loaned out again. Is Shaw too young for Mourinho? What's your valuation on Torres, Ba, Lukaku and Ramires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'd bet Costa is the main target, which isn't a surprise. The prototypical Mourinho striker, an in the box, big motor street fighter. I hope it doesn't happen, but I wouldn't bet against it. Yes, i'd say without a doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 You pays your money, you takes your choice. Mourinho needs to get into shape btw. Can't be having him running down the touchline looking like Ferguson, can we, Small horse will RACE next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Falcao to me is a no-no. A huge price tag with an injury that may effect his performance. Is has a massive banana skin factor. A back line of Dave, Cahill, JT and Shaw would be great with Ivan as cover for 3 of the positions, Dave's ability for 2 positions and Luiz if need be. Shaw obviously has the draw of being homegrown. We need another striker to give us options. If we start with Costa, Lukaku and Eto next season we will be in good health. To raise funds, the sale of Torres (6p), Mikel, Ramires, Ba, Moses and Marin should get a few quid. Just my opinion.....I doubt if Lukaku will be a Chelsea player. But, if he is, I think he needs to be played......not loaned out again. Is Shaw too young for Mourinho? What's your valuation on Torres, Ba, Lukaku and Ramires? Torres £10-£12m Ba £7m Lukaku £25+m. That is based more on potential than current ability. Ramires £15m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Mourinho's one season, one trick pony's buy out clause is currently... Priceless. Ask Abramovich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Falcao to me is a no-no. A huge price tag with an injury that may effect his performance. Is has a massive banana skin factor. A back line of Dave, Cahill, JT and Shaw would be great with Ivan as cover for 3 of the positions, Dave's ability for 2 positions and Luiz if need be. Shaw obviously has the draw of being homegrown. We need another striker to give us options. If we start with Costa, Lukaku and Eto next season we will be in good health. To raise funds, the sale of Torres (6p), Mikel, Ramires, Ba, Moses and Marin should get a few quid. Just my opinion.....I doubt if Lukaku will be a Chelsea player. But, if he is, I think he needs to be played......not loaned out again. Is Shaw too young for Mourinho? What's your valuation on Torres, Ba, Lukaku and Ramires? Torres £10-£12m Ba £7m Lukaku £25+m. That is based more on potential than current ability. Ramires £15m a clearly finished 30 year old torres is going to go for £10m+? reckon chelsea will be lucky to get five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Scoring the winner in the CL final could change things. But yes. Torres is a tricky one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Falcao to me is a no-no. A huge price tag with an injury that may effect his performance. Is has a massive banana skin factor. A back line of Dave, Cahill, JT and Shaw would be great with Ivan as cover for 3 of the positions, Dave's ability for 2 positions and Luiz if need be. Shaw obviously has the draw of being homegrown. We need another striker to give us options. If we start with Costa, Lukaku and Eto next season we will be in good health. To raise funds, the sale of Torres (6p), Mikel, Ramires, Ba, Moses and Marin should get a few quid. Just my opinion.....I doubt if Lukaku will be a Chelsea player. But, if he is, I think he needs to be played......not loaned out again. Is Shaw too young for Mourinho? What's your valuation on Torres, Ba, Lukaku and Ramires? Torres £10-£12m Ba £7m Lukaku £25+m. That is based more on potential than current ability. Ramires £15m a clearly finished 30 year old torres is going to go for £10m+? reckon chelsea will be lucky to get five. 25+ Lukaku would be a stretch, likewise 15 for Ramires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 true. and i really wouldn't be surprised to see you win it from this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 true. and i really wouldn't be surprised to see you win it from this point. Thanks Stevie. Happy for the deal I struck with Bob to work out. Lovely Jubbly. But tbh and sober. I think next season we have more chance. But why look a gift horse in the mouth? Very tense this run in to the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 mourinho specialises in dogging out results - could see it against PSG, blanc thought he was getting it all his own way then mourinho changed it, went more direct and got what was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Lukaku will get his big chance on the World stage...even more so with Benteke out........so if he pulls it off against some of the best defenders in the world...who nose Jose might keep him or sell him and make a nice profit. ..................and if he bombs out its win win for Jose (not good enough for Chelsea) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Falcao to me is a no-no. A huge price tag with an injury that may effect his performance. Is has a massive banana skin factor. A back line of Dave, Cahill, JT and Shaw would be great with Ivan as cover for 3 of the positions, Dave's ability for 2 positions and Luiz if need be. Shaw obviously has the draw of being homegrown. We need another striker to give us options. If we start with Costa, Lukaku and Eto next season we will be in good health. To raise funds, the sale of Torres (6p), Mikel, Ramires, Ba, Moses and Marin should get a few quid. Just my opinion.....I doubt if Lukaku will be a Chelsea player. But, if he is, I think he needs to be played......not loaned out again. Is Shaw too young for Mourinho? What's your valuation on Torres, Ba, Lukaku and Ramires? Torres £10-£12m Ba £7m Lukaku £25+m. That is based more on potential than current ability. Ramires £15m a clearly finished 30 year old torres is going to go for £10m+? reckon chelsea will be lucky to get five. 25+ Lukaku would be a stretch, likewise 15 for Ramires Ramires is more capped than Fernandinho and he went for £28m, if anything I think I undervalued Ramires. Torres, yeah, probably over priced. If Lukaku went for anything under £25m I would be gutted. Is there a better 20 year old striker? Marin can also go for a packet of crisps, Romeo can go for the pickled egg and Moses for the pint of ale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) When is van Ginkel coming back and where does he fit? Current Chelsea manager, Jose Mourinho, holds the youngster in high regard and has likened him to England greats Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard. He has described Van Ginkel as an engine with immense physical power. As with several others, Jose is quick to point out his overall game, “He covers a fantastic area of the field defensively and after that he has this instinct where he wants to go into finishing areas, he wants to score goals. He’s very good in the air.” Edited April 10, 2014 by P45Mustang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Scoring the winner in the CL final could change things. But yes. Torres is a tricky one. even trickier when you put in the 200 gs a week he's on!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 RVG should be back next season, which is one reason why we can afford to offload Ramires and Mikel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 RVG should be back next season, which is one reason why we can afford to offload Ramires and Mikel. Ok boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Falcao to me is a no-no. A huge price tag with an injury that may effect his performance. Is has a massive banana skin factor. A back line of Dave, Cahill, JT and Shaw would be great with Ivan as cover for 3 of the positions, Dave's ability for 2 positions and Luiz if need be. Shaw obviously has the draw of being homegrown. We need another striker to give us options. If we start with Costa, Lukaku and Eto next season we will be in good health. To raise funds, the sale of Torres (6p), Mikel, Ramires, Ba, Moses and Marin should get a few quid. Just my opinion.....I doubt if Lukaku will be a Chelsea player. But, if he is, I think he needs to be played......not loaned out again. Is Shaw too young for Mourinho? What's your valuation on Torres, Ba, Lukaku and Ramires? Torres £10-£12m Ba £7m Lukaku £25+m. That is based more on potential than current ability. Ramires £15m At today's prices I wouldn't argue with any of those valuations save for Torres. I was listening to some talking heads the other night going on about Lukaku's work ethic. With his natural talent and eagerness to be better, his value could soar in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Yep. I think Keith Simmonds has nailed the Lukaku story atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 RVG should be back next season, which is one reason why we can afford to offload Ramires and Mikel. MVG you plank mjj!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Call him Dave if you want. Not a problem. Works fine with Azpuletc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 this is quite odd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Yep. Almost chose that pic as my avatar. Still trying to work out the monkey at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 If spurs wer'nt so overloaded with attacking midfielders I'd love to have Marin at the lane, class footballer, shame he never had a proper chance in the prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Lukaku will get his big chance on the World stage...even more so with Benteke out........so if he pulls it off against some of the best defenders in the world...who nose Jose might keep him or sell him and make a nice profit. ..................and if he bombs out its win win for Jose (not good enough for Chelsea) Thats a truly unique take on Mourinho's ill thought out and ultimately mistaken decision to loan out Lukaku Bravo Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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