Marine Dept gives 4,000 baht to families of victims in Ayutthaya boat sinking

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Marine Dept gives 4,000 baht to families of victims in Ayutthaya boat sinking

  

AYUTTHAYA, 27 September 2016 (NNT) - The Marine Department has agreed to provide 4,000 baht in compensation to the families of those who lost their lives when a river ferry capsized in Ayutthaya province earlier this month. 

Advisor for maritime transport Withaya Yamoung has visited the province on behalf of the Transport Minister to present 4,000 baht to each of the 13 families as compensation for the deaths of their family members. The ministry had previously presented 4,000 baht as compensation to another 15 families. 

He revealed that investigations into the cause of the ferry’s sinking will be concluded at the end of this month. He also took the time to instruct boat operators to improve their safety procedures to boost confidence among tourists and other stakeholders in the maritime transport industry. 

The adviser also revealed that the Marine Department will work to improve the quality and safety of ports and boat operations in the province, due to Ayutthaya’s role in maritime logistics. He affirmed that there would be no repeat of the capsizing incident.

 

-- nnt 2016-09-27

[kotsak]

4,000 what?!

 

Edited September 27, 2016 by kotsak

[Gulfsailor]

1 minute ago, kotsak said:

4,000 what?!

 

Yeah. "Yes, we stole the insurance premiums. Now take this 4000 baht, go get yourself a bag of rice and a life jacket, and stop complaining already."

[canopus1969]

That's an insult 

[ratcatcher]

That's a massive B112,000 for 28 lives. Where did they find all that money and sense of justice and fair dealing?

Ought to be at least B28 million . Absolutely disgusting to even publicise this significant slap in the face for the grieving families.

OTOH, think of all the things you can buy with B4,000?

That's what our old forgotten friend Chalerm used to spend on a cheap bottle of wine.

[Jingthing]

Add some zeroes. 

LOTS of zeroes.

[wayned]

There you guys go again into the deep end.  What did the Marine Department have to do with the sinking or the pocketing of the insurance payments - nothing!  The government gave the families a small contribution toward the funeral costs, granted not a lot, but a payment that was not required.  I can imagine how much the US Coast Guard would have given the families if the incident happened on the Mississippi River in New Orleans. Bitch, botch, bitch about how f*%ded up Thailand is but you still choose it over your home country!

[clockman]

Trust me, we are Thai!

[doremifasol]

Not even enough for a funeral.....

 

This is so revolting........ 

[ratcatcher]

3 hours ago, wayned said:

There you guys go again into the deep end.  What did the Marine Department have to do with the sinking or the pocketing of the insurance payments - nothing!  The government gave the families a small contribution toward the funeral costs, granted not a lot, but a payment that was not required.  I can imagine how much the US Coast Guard would have given the families if the incident happened on the Mississippi River in New Orleans. Bitch, botch, bitch about how f*%ded up Thailand is but you still choose it over your home country!

What did the Marine Department have to do with the sinking or the pocketing of the insurance payments - nothing!  "

Apparently two employees of the Marine Dept., were involved. One, a Miss Hathaikan Penkun issued a license , without seeing an insurance certificate. The other, a man the owner claims he paid, a Marine Dept official, to obtain insurance to cover the vessel. 

Supposedly the premium went astray?

So it would seem that the Dept had some involvement.

A lot of stories reported in the media, especially the papers are poorly researched and edited, thus causing confusion and misunderstanding to readers.

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Relatives-of-ferry-boat-victims-to-receive-Bt12000-30295984.html

 

And yes, I reside here and take the rough with the smooth.

Edited September 27, 2016 by ratcatcher
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[DM07]

3 hours ago, wayned said:

There you guys go again into the deep end.  What did the Marine Department have to do with the sinking or the pocketing of the insurance payments - nothing!  The government gave the families a small contribution toward the funeral costs, granted not a lot, but a payment that was not required.  I can imagine how much the US Coast Guard would have given the families if the incident happened on the Mississippi River in New Orleans. Bitch, botch, bitch about how f*%ded up Thailand is but you still choose it over your home country!

So, I assume, you are okay with the way this wonderful country handles these things.

Like overloading the boat, because they are greedy @#$%s, not paying an insurance, having shoddy equipment and in the end insult the victims by paying small hand outs!

Praise be to Thailand, were all things are gold and fluffy bunny rabbits...at least for you!

[JAG]

3 hours ago, wayned said:

There you guys go again into the deep end.  What did the Marine Department have to do with the sinking or the pocketing of the insurance payments - nothing!  The government gave the families a small contribution toward the funeral costs, granted not a lot, but a payment that was not required.  I can imagine how much the US Coast Guard would have given the families if the incident happened on the Mississippi River in New Orleans. Bitch, botch, bitch about how f*%ded up Thailand is but you still choose it over your home country!

 

But then again, if the Marine Department, who one presumes are responsible for monitoring and regulating the riverboat traffic, had ensured that the vessel was properly insured, the skipper was properly qualified, the vessel had the appropriate safety equipment, and it wasn't carrying four times more passengers than it was supposed to, perhaps the disaster wouldn't have happened.

 

If a boat carrying four times it's licenced capacity, with an unqualified skipper and no insurance had been involved in a similar accident, with the same loss of life on the Mississippi in New Orleans then I should imagine that the US Coastguard, or whoever was the regulating authority, would be hung out to dry!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The princely sum of 4000 baht per dead victim, the deaths due to the boat operator's flagrant disregard for safety rules along with probably government regulatory neglect, incompetence and/or corruption.

 

Where's our infamous farang columnist of late who says that expats who complain about life in Thailand ought to shut up and leave rather than complain?

 

[seajae]

it would  thai life is now worth $110, pretty pathetic really. They are the ones that are partially responsible for not having checks to ensure their workers are doing things illegally  by both issuing the license with no insurance certificate and by taking the funds for insurance and then pocketing it and not issuing a license. Again we see the "its not our fault" thinking and that a measly $110 is all a life is worth to them. Time that all govt offices/workers were held accountable for all their stuff ups instead of blaming others and using inactive postings, jail, fines and being sacked is what is needed

[newcomer71]

Absolutely speechless... An insult to those families!

[Deserted]

Life is cheap in Thailand, ain't that the truth!

[naboo]

Did they deliver a slap to the face simultaneously?

[kannot]

 

23 minutes ago, naboo said:

Did they deliver a slap to the face simultaneously?

YES by paying it in 12  installments .....one per  year

[kannot]

"He affirmed that there would be no repeat of the capsizing incident."

 

I feel sooooooooooooooooooo much safer now

[newatthis]

4,000 baht! At least I know my wife won't be sending me on a boat trip!

[Thechook]

How generous 

[anon4637435435]

Just shocking! What a blatent disregard for human life. I was going to further my comments but took a step back as to not disraspect anyone of the families suffering. Can i get a work permit to legally go and take out/sort out these powers that be as thais clearly can not do this job.

[alant]

that's ok then

[geriatrickid]

17 hours ago, wayned said:

There you guys go again into the deep end.  What did the Marine Department have to do with the sinking or the pocketing of the insurance payments - nothing!  The government gave the families a small contribution toward the funeral costs, granted not a lot, but a payment that was not required.  I can imagine how much the US Coast Guard would have given the families if the incident happened on the Mississippi River in New Orleans. Bitch, botch, bitch about how f*%ded up Thailand is but you still choose it over your home country!

 

You  put your foot into a steaming sticky pile of turd with your comment.

 

What did the Marine Department have to do with the sinking or the pocketing of the insurance payments - nothing! 

The Marine  department is responsible for enforcing inland  waterway safety regulations. You know, "stuff" like   boat  operator competence, basic safety and other 'stuff".

 

No need to imagine the US CGS giving money to  injured parties, because it is a reality. It is called negligence.  The federal and respective governments allow for  tort litigation. It becomes an "administrative claim". The injured parties file an SF 95 form and proceed from there. And yes the US Coast  Guard does get sued. It happens when rescues go wrong and when there are allegations of improper maintenance of  warning devices. keep in mind that this was an inland waterway event, not out on the high seas.

 

It is unfortunate you wish to take others to task, while ignoring the issue of responsibility to enforce the maritime safety laws. Is this any different from the fact that jet skis are illegal as operated in Phuket, yet the  Marine 5 office refuses to enforce the law?

 

 

 

 

[geriatrickid]

2 hours ago, Thechook said:

How generous 

 

Well, they were Muslims.  ...........   And yes, I do believe that there is a bit of a double standard and bias  involved.

[Honthy]

4.000 Baht and most probably a cask of cheap candy for the kids.... one for each of them, of course

[Redline]

Unreal and sad.  Keep the money losers

[Laughing Gravy]

The sad thing about this story besides the deaths is the marine department are probably thinking they are doing the families a favour by giving the whopping 4000 baht. Truly amazing.