scorecard Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 54 minutes ago, louse1953 said: Just because that is your personal situation,don't think the rest of us let family walk all over us and treat us as fools. Actually your direct assumption is wrong. I'm fortunate to have a very good situation with all of this. And it's been good for several decades and looks like it will continue to be good. I've been in Thailand close to 4 decades and I've therefore seen many configurations of this subject and I've seen many examples of what I posted. Is every Thai extended family what I posted? No of course not, and I didn't suggest every Thai extended family was like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, catman20 said: i agree with you 100% 1. it will properly end up costing you more. 2. you wont want to stay there long term so wouldn't worry about that. she sounds like a nice girl go for it you will get a lot of pleasure seeing her little face light up when you say you will do it. GO FOR IT. In my sad experience that is the only time her face will light up. That would happen when I agreed to give my wife money for something, but that was the only time, till the next time she wanted money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulhamboy Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Seven years ! if you can afford it she deserves it, I will buy my GF a house but still rent a condo for the swimming pool and the bars ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, speckio said: if you have been together for 7 years i think its reasonable for you to build her a house she is in it for the long haul. and chances are if she kicks you out... more than likely you did something wrong and deserved it. Also ask yourself why you arent married yet after 7 years? If you don't see future with this women tell her no on the the house building. OK i lived with a great girl for 6 years never interested to marry again not necessary in Thailand after we finished i still continued to see this lady and 3 years down the road i bought her a house in Bangkok in her name as a gift that was 3 years ago i still see her and stay at the beautiful house i bought her. i live alone and do my own thing and we are still very special to each other 12 year on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: In my sad experience that is the only time her face will light up. That would happen when I agreed to give my wife money for something, but that was the only time, till the next time she wanted money. maybe your with the wrong women. dont get married Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobin Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 You are getting old, mate. Look to your future and those folks who will be willing and able to care for a geriatric farang; your extended Thai family. My advice: put up half the dough, and let the extended family find the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansell Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Why do you have to buy a house, where are you living now? You could probably find a nice sized house for your needs and rent it. Why do you have to buy or build.....just rent. Most of these small towns and villages have empty houses at low monthly costs available for rent.....you can even get a discount and pay a year in advance. If you are paying 10,000 baht a month, or more it will be cheaper than flushing 400,000 baht down the toilet.....gone forever. And if it doesn't work out.....bye bye baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKC Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 The "deal" sounds reasonable at face value. Building houses anywhere have a habit of costing a lot more that was first thought. Surveying the land, an architect and a lawyer could cost a quite a chunk of B400,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amykat Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Are you living with/ married to a Thai? Have you bought a Thai lady a house? Do the family live nearby? If not, I doubt you understand what is at risk. Hey, Thaibeachlovers, I thought we were becoming friends? Do you really have so little respect for my intelligence that you think I can't understand the problems here? I wasn't addressing all issues involved in the problem of living in a village, living near family, buying a house in a Thai name, living or marrying a Thai person and it may shock you, but it is possible to understand these things without having done each and every of them yourself. 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: BTW, he's not married to her, and her family are not his responsibility. The land will never be his, so how can he get free land? Well I have a usufruct and a mortgage against someone (who I don't live with and who didn't own this house or land) and I paid full market price for my house and land. They didn't discount the purchase price by 1.5 million baht because I will never be able to own the land. In my example, they can't use the land for something else, if his house is on it for 30 years, or until he dies, can they? He didn't pay them for use of the land that he is controlling. Do you know of a way to build a house without land on which to put it? If you put a house on land for which you do not pay ...how would you phrase that?? FREE LAND. 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Do you not understand that once the house has been built, he is at HER mercy. Unless he dreamt that one day he could move to Thailand and spend his money helping a poor Thai family to own a house there is no obligation on his part to do so. Of course she wants something out of the relationship. The point is if he will continue to get what he wants if he does what she wants. In my experience, gratitude isn't something that lasts long, especially where money is concerned. I understand that she is asking for a gift. This isn't the typical case of buying yourself a house but putting it your g/f's name for lack of other choices. If he decides to make this gift into a set of handcuffs and a leash and collar for her to wear, then I wouldn't call it a gift. It is like when a man "buys" a car for a woman but puts in his own name ...that isn't "buying" a car for a woman ..yet you always call it that. What that is, is allowing a woman to drive your car, until you won't allow it any longer. That might be nice, but let's just call things what they really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight8 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 On 15/10/2016 at 11:02 PM, Deepinthailand said: Am I missing something !!! Where in the op was Issan mention? ???. for 400k, where else would it be. Out in the sticks, Issan, Nahkon nowhere, what's the ******** difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If the land has a chanote issued in the name of a co signitory then a lease is possible. No chanote...a 30 year lease is not valid. Until a chanaote is issued land is deemed to be in pending stages of squatters rights and thus not permitted to be sub leased for any period longer than 3 years. Such lease agreements are made but the leasee can be laughed off anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepinthailand Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 On 17/10/2016 at 9:47 AM, realenglish1 said: This is the dream of lots of poor Thai girls Farang comes along buys house for them then she kicks them out Be very careful my friend I have been here 15 years I know Can you tell us your story how it happened to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepinthailand Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 45 minutes ago, Straight8 said: for 400k, where else would it be. Out in the sticks, Issan, Nahkon nowhere, what's the ******** difference? Well as it happens lots of diffrence and as the op has responded to this question it's now sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzmurray Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 hours ago, lostinisaan said: Better intro a slot than a slut? A 7-year holiday relationship where she could always manage to be off when you arrived? OP, you didn't really understand what she really wants. I don't think that she'd like to live with you in a house. Maybe with her Thai partner? How much do you know about the woman who gives you free clothes? Nice of you to call the OP's GF a "slut", you are a special kind of stroker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) I have a friend that found someone nearby that wanted a concrete house, so he bought the wood of the existing house which was quite large, and had some people plane the wood and it looked like new. All he had to do then was pile drive and put some non load bearing cinder block walls and base on the ground floor and they ended up with a fairly large house for a couple of hundred grand (this was about 6-7 years ago). He lived there and didn't ask for ownership. The relationship ended for other reasons (not money grabbing) and he moved out, but it was money that he was capable of losing. Might be one option for going forward if 400K doesn't hurt your viability too much. Personally I prefer wood as it doesn't hold nearly as much heat, and if it is planed true there are no slots for moquitoes to get in. Edited October 18, 2016 by Shiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 My advice to you would not be helpful. So I will refrain from saying get out while you can before you lose the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Bloody hell - it's half the price of a car. No more comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamukloy Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Ive travelled many locations around the globe and ive never seen this phenomena thats so popular here. Foreign men sweeping in and buying a house for some girl they dont know from a bar of soap. I could kinda understand if they had some land ownership rights..but.. I just shake my head again and again. Maybe theres some truth in the rumour that these Isaan ladies are in touch with black magic. Either that or they have invented the worlds biggest idiot magnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 On 10/15/2016 at 11:24 PM, Deepinthailand said: Don't listen to the doomsayers most had your lass wrongly tagged as issan. 400000k not a lot can build a thai style house for that if you have labour in family. No point in my opinion of trying to get any sort of agreement re land or house. If it goes belly up you wouldn't want to live there anyway. Not sure if the law here covers boyfriend girl friend relationships ie if you are entitled to half the house but I doubt it very much. 8 years is long enough to make up your own mind. Has she ripped you off in the 8 years?? I suspect not otherwise you would not be a asking on here so just go for it. Issan tagged , doomed to fail , i should know .555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyumchai Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Back when i was green and nieve i dated a girl from udon thani. On my 4th visit to the village then grandmother barked a load of crap at me when i arrived and my girlfriend stupidly (but much to my advantage) translated it. "Why this stupid foreigner come to the village again? Tell him to build us a house this time or dont come again". That was probably the game changer that showed me what theyre truely like and a decade later ive still not been taken for a mug. .....she found her mug, in australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 19 minutes ago, bamukloy said: Ive travelled many locations around the globe and ive never seen this phenomena thats so popular here. Foreign men sweeping in and buying a house for some girl they dont know from a bar of soap. I could kinda understand if they had some land ownership rights..but.. I just shake my head again and again. Maybe theres some truth in the rumour that these Isaan ladies are in touch with black magic. Either that or they have invented the worlds biggest idiot magnet Known locally as , Stupid farlang , and may i add there are many , I should know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 On 10/15/2016 at 1:54 PM, phetphet said: Usufruct maybe? The only way is a usafruct, however you still run the risk of the relationship going pear shaped, as the house is on her land and her mother and sister are some where in the picture they inc your then ex will want you out. Could you continue to live there in the village alone under these circumstances, the answer must be no, however in life sometimes we have to take risks , this is a decision you have to make so good luck. ps I bought mine a house with a usafruct but a three hour drive away from her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 On 10/15/2016 at 2:14 PM, jonw8uk said: but whatever legal protection you may have, do you think that if you do break up, you'd still be living in the house with your ex and her family? Sounds like an awkward living arrangement that you'd soon walk away from If you and your girlfriend breakup, you will leave. The choice is up to you. Leave walking or leave as ashes. Life is cheap in Thailand. Specialy in remote farmer villages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penefattore Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 anyway , to the OP : if you think she deserves a gift of 400,000 baht and you can afford it , give her ; if you are just trying to save money , change girlfriend (and mobile number and address or it won't work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penefattore Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 5 hours ago, jobin said: You are getting old, mate. Look to your future and those folks who will be willing and able to care for a geriatric farang; your extended Thai family. what makes you assume he is willing to get euthanasia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matej Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Don't hesitate at all and spend your hard earned money on your girlfriend's house. Don't forget about her siblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 8 hours ago, catman20 said: maybe your with the wrong women. dont get married True, but where were your wise words when I was still single? The answer is to rent, never buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangkhut Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just make sure that she buy you a Ferrari first.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akentryan Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Consider also what will happen if your wife dies before you. She should make a will naming you as Executor and the Inheritor. Otherwise you will be dealing with the GF's parents for 1/3 and you will pay tax on the 2/3 you inherit. You will then have to have a Plan B as you can't own land. Had this happen to me two years ago and still haven't got it all sorted out. I did buy the 1/3 interest in house in Pattaya for 1.4 million and my car for 1/3 its value. The house in Bang Sue is still for sale because the family wants more than it is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Gift your girlfriend the 400K so she can provide a better accommodation for her parents and sibling if you see a future together. You have been with this girlfriend for 7 years, the price for this companionship to date has been 156 baht per day, and ever reducing while in unison. Presuming of course 400K is not the only egg in your basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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