Analysis: Trump 'rigged' vote claim may leave lasting damage

[SaintLouisBlues]

10 minutes ago, joeyg said:

 Only 4 in 10 Americans  believe election is NOT rigged. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/just-4-in-10-confident-vote-will-be-counted-accurately/article/2605492

Is this the same proportion who believe in alien invasion?

[Ulysses G.]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

 

Please reply to my full post, not an edited down portion.

 

 

I already did. I responded specifically to the question that you asked as well as all the spin. I trust Trump more than I trust Hillary Clinton. 

[iReason]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

There is plenty of evidence that Hillary is mentally unbalanced as well as being a serial liar.

There is no way to be sure that she won't do something irrational in office.

 

 

Fire away.

Post it.

 

Or, is this just another of your personal delusions?

[Ulysses G.]

15 minutes ago, iReason said:

Post it.

 

All the stupid Smiley's do not really help your case. 

 

A number of Secret Service agents have come out about her erratic behavior.

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282330-ex-secret-service-agent-clinton-occasionally-violent

 

Edited October 30, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[AYJAYDEE]

7 hours ago, MJP said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

All the stupid Smiley's do not really help your case. 

 

A number of Secret Service agents have come out about her erratic behavior.

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282330-ex-secret-service-agent-clinton-occasionally-violent

 

 

lol, one guy!!!!!

[Ulysses G.]

24 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

 

one guy!!!!!

 

In your dreams. Try reading the article. Numerous agents and others have complained about her mental health over the years.

 

http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-service-agents-hillary-is-a-nightmare-to-work-with/

[AYJAYDEE]

1 minute ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

In your dreams. Try reading the article. Numerous agents and others have complained about her mental health over the years.

 

http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-service-agents-hillary-is-a-nightmare-to-work-with/

 

lol, a nasty rude bad-tempered  woman is mentally ill? lol. where did ya get your degree? trump U ?? lol

[Morch]

8 hours ago, MJP said:

 

HRC was the only one using an insecure, illegal server is probably the reason.

 

 

I believe you are confusing between a few instances.

 

There was the investigation into HRC use of private server, and then there were the Wikileaks of DNC emails, and Podesta's emails. The first is not the same as the others. The hacking/exposing relates to the latter two.

 

The issue with HRC private server use was potential theft, not an actual disclosed one.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2016 by Morch

[Ulysses G.]

7 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

lol, a nasty rude bad-tempered  woman is mentally ill? 

 

"Erratic, uncontrollable and occasionally violent". You are not much on the reading thing. 

[iReason]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

 

All the stupid Smiley's do not really help your case. 

 

A number of Secret Service agents have come out about her erratic behavior.

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282330-ex-secret-service-agent-clinton-occasionally-violent

 

 

As usual,

Ya got nothin'...

[Morch]

48 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

All the stupid Smiley's do not really help your case. 

 

A number of Secret Service agents have come out about her erratic behavior.

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282330-ex-secret-service-agent-clinton-occasionally-violent

 

 

Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-all book

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578

[AYJAYDEE]

4 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

"Erratic, uncontrollable and occasionally violent". You are not much on the reading thing. 

 

lol, they are mental specialists? uncontrollable? i shud hope so. she was their fricken boss

 

[Ulysses G.]

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-all book

 

Plenty of Secret Service say otherwise. There is not just one book or one agent. The negative view of her is rampant.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/14/hillary-clinton-exploded-secret-service-refusing-c/

 

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Plenty of Secret Service say otherwise. There is not just one book or one agent. The negative view of her is rampant.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/14/hillary-clinton-exploded-secret-service-refusing-c/

 

 

And I think the criticism leveled by AFAUSSS still carries more weight than the opinions of a few disgruntled agents. Note that they also claim the author did not have access which would have permitted him to witness some of what he described. Further, asserting that his life was in danger kinda seems OTT...

 

Another point, I take a dim view of such agents revealing personal information about the people they are protecting. The level of security involved goes hand in hand with privacy of people being kept. Can't work otherwise.

[iReason]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

 

"Erratic, uncontrollable and occasionally violent". You are not much on the reading thing. 

 

As usual, an erroneous musing from a "non-supporter" () of the Bloviator is debunked. 

Once again.

 

Actually, a long time ago.

[Ulysses G.]

11 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

And I think the criticism leveled by AFAUSSS still carries more weight than the opinions of a few disgruntled agents.

 

Your OPINION is noted. However, there have been far more than a few disgusted agents and over many years. 

[Morch]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

 

Your OPINION is noted. However, there have been far more than a few disgusted agents and over many years. 

 

Not just my opinion, but what the AFAUSSS says. If you are unclear about this - they are former agents as well, more numerous and with more previously higher ranked and experienced members.

 

And the "I was just replying to part of the post" bit does not apply here. You simply cut something not favorable to your argument.

[SaintLouisBlues]

3 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

However, there have been far more than a few disgusted agents and over many years. 

You have to understand the mentality of the sort of people who go into law enforcement. The world over they are renowned for hating drugs, sex and rock'n'roll. They're never going to like anyone left of center

[iReason]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

A number of Secret Service agents have come out about her erratic behavior.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282330-ex-secret-service-agent-clinton-occasionally-violent

 

From your source:

 

"Clinton’s campaign on Sunday dismissed Byrne’s account, saying his new book is an attempt at profiting off the former first family."

 

“Gary Byrnes joins the ranks of Ed Klein and other ‘authors’ in this latest in a long line of books attempting to cash in on the election cycle with their nonsense,” spokesman Nick Merrill said. "It should be put in the fantasy section of the book store.”

 

You could have read that months ago...

 

Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-all book

Former agents blast writer Gary Byrne for having 'underlying motives.'

 

"The author of a new tell-all book about Hillary Clinton could never have seen any of what he claims — he was too low-ranking — say several high-level members of Secret Service presidential details, including the president of the Association of Former Agents of the United States Secret Service."

 

"On Tuesday, AFAUSSS, which is strictly nonpartisan, is set to release a statement blasting Gary Byrne author of “Crisis in Character,” saying members “strongly denounce” the book, which they add has made security harder by eroding the trust between agents and the people they protect."

 

"“There is no place for any self-moralizing narratives, particularly those with an underlying motive,” reads the statement from the group’s board of directors, which says Byrne has politics and profit on his mind. AFAUSSS rarely issues public statements of any kind."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578#ixzz4OV7WEUUi 

[dutchisaan]

3 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

In your dreams. Try reading the article. Numerous agents and others have complained about her mental health over the years.

 

http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-service-agents-hillary-is-a-nightmare-to-work-with/

 You support your master Trump, and talk about the mental health of HRC???

man, get real!!!

[dutchisaan]

7 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

VOTER FRAUD IN MINNESOTA [UPDATED]

That’s a big topic, as Minnesota’s same-day registration scheme is notoriously subject to–in fact, invites–abuse. But a group called Minnesota Voters Alliance has brought to light another problem: substantial numbers of felons, among others, are illegally being allowed to vote, because Minnesota’s Secretary of State refuses to follow the law. Yesterday, lawsuits were commenced by three election judges:

 

Read the whole thing here:  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/10/voter-fraud-in-minnesota.php

It's real and it's happening all over the country..

 

 

Yes Boon Mee, we all know about the voter fraud you keep posting! Now do your self a favor! Stop posting your BS noncense and start living in the real world.

[Srikcir]

RNC's response to Trump calling for election observers -

“You [Trump supporters] are encouraged not to engage in ‘ballot security’ activities even in your personal, state party or campaign capacity. If you elect to do so, please be aware that the RNC in no way sanctions your activity,”  As per RNC general counsel John Ryder.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/rnc-asks-members-to-avoid-poll-watching-other-ballot-security-activities-1476925215

 

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

I already did. I responded specifically to the question that you asked as well as all the spin. I trust Trump more than I trust Hillary Clinton. 

What is you trust in Trump based on?  His political experience?  He has none.  His financial disclosures?  He doesn't do disclosures.  His tax returns?  We haven't seen them. 

[Srikcir]

10 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

Hillary is mentally unbalanced

On the other hand Libertarian party candidate for Vice President GOP Gov. Bill Weld had this to say recently about Trump's suitability as POTUS:

“Mr. Trump has some charisma and panache, and intellectual quickness. These qualities can be entertaining. Yet more than charisma, more even than intellectual ability, is required of a serious candidate for this country’s highest office. A serious candidate for the Presidency of the United States must be stable, and Donald Trump is not stable ...   He [Trump] has not exhibited the self-control, the discipline, or the emotional depth necessary to function credibly as a President of the United States."

https://www.johnsonweld.com/statement_by_gov_bill_weld_regarding_the_final_weeks_election

 Wild makes no mention of HRC.

[Srikcir]

11 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

There is plenty of evidence that Hillary is mentally unbalanced

On the other hand Trump doesn't like to analyze himself because he's afraid that he might not like what he sees - someone incapable of soul-searching.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/politics/donald-trump-interviews.html?_r=1

 

 

[Jingthing]

Bill Weld seems decent.  Weird he isn't on top of the Johnson ticket. 

[Boon Mee]

4 hours ago, iReason said:

 

Please feel free to provide substantiated links to your assertion (as if it were fact) that:

"It's real and it's happening all over the country.."

 

Too much.

The Lemmings are getting really desperate grasping at any straw that blows by.

 

Hilarious.

Not just Minnesota - in NC there are credible reports that the state board of elections has "sent instructions to all 100 counties to disregard the state law that requires signatures on voter registration forms. Veronica Degraffenreid, the SBE’s election preparation and support manager, ignored the statute that requires a signature as part of the registration process, including changes in voter registration." Further, "a State Board of Elections employee, Dr. E. Lee Cooley, was teaching the public and political operatives how to commit voter fraud."

 

https://www.nccivitas.org/2016/do-you-think-elections-are-rigged/

[Ulysses G.]

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

What is you trust in Trump based on? 

 

I did not say that I trust him. I said that I trust him MORE than Hillary. She has a record and it is not a good one.

[Ulysses G.]

8 hours ago, iReason said:

 

From your source:

 

"Clinton’s campaign on Sunday dismissed Byrne’s account, saying his new book is an attempt at profiting off the former first family."

 

 

Oh no. Clinton's campaign dismissed it. That is very convincing - almost as convincing as the protestations of a defense attorney.  

[heybruce]

5 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

I did not say that I trust him. I said that I trust him MORE than Hillary. She has a record and it is not a good one.

 

Trump has a record also, and he refuses to let the voters see it.  I prefer the devil I know to the devil who is obviously hiding things.