FBI reopens probe into Hillary Clinton's emails

[Morch]

9 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Good timing. They'll be neck and neck soon. While I don't believe she should be banged up, she definitely shouldn't be in a position where she could hold the highest office in the land and potentially be blackmailable through her carelessness.

 

If potential blackmail is the issue, how does this reflect on Trump?

[Morch]

6 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

What you'll take is your business....we dont want crooks who pretend theyre saints....like crooked hillary.....we'd rather have somene human with imperfections who wants to right a few wrongs. 

 

I cant believe you compared her crimes to those of characters from a work of fiction....lol lol lol.....its desperation time alright. 

 

Except very few here claim HRC is a saint, and I don't think she claimed it as well.

Most arguments are that she's a flawed candidate, but the lesser of two evils.

[Morch]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Can you name the one serious presidential candidate in the past 20 years that played no part in the politics leading to the downhill trajectory of the USA's standing in the world?

 

I'll give you a hint.  His initials are DT.

 

True he's a sorry choice.  But not the sorriest on the ballot.

 

You mean like Trump's obsessive birther campaign?

 

[Steely Dan]

But they won't tell BEFORE the election which is why the TIMING by the FBI is so weird and arguably wrong.

I suspect be it before or after the election your 'Madam president' will be referred to by a number and not a title.


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[dunroaming]

Trump keeps comparing it to Watergate but it bears no resemblance to Watergate at all.  Anyway at least it keeps the momentum going for now

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Steely Dan said:

I suspect be it before or after the election your 'Madam president' will be referred to by a number and not a title.


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It's possible if she loses but if she wins she can pardon herself. Can't Obama pardon her in advance anyway while he's still in office? 

[Thaidream]

She is defintely a flawed candidate and the lesser of two evils and that just shows those who care and the rest of the World how flawed the American election system is. Neither of these 2 people should even be candidates. There are far more competent people on both sides who could do a much better job than either of these candidates .

While I am not a Hillary fan per se- Donald Trump would be a complete disaster for America and the World. His election will immediately send the World stock markets into a prolonged decline and send the dollar plummeting by 20% and this will happen because the business community knows he is all bluster without any real plan and he is incompetent. Go ahead- vote for him- but be prepared to live on a reduced income and watch the rest of the World shun America as an unreliable ally. 

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[Strange]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's possible if she loses but if she wins she can pardon herself. Can't Obama pardon her in advance anyway while he's still in office? 

 

And you believe this to be OK? This is the game you want to play? On the world stage? 

 

Edit:

 

JT has me on Ignore cause he don't like me. Unfortunate. I only got one person on Ignore (not JT)  and as much as I don't care for JT's propaganda, he's alright in my book. 

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[Thakkar]

"There is no indication the emails in question were withheld by Clinton during the investigation, the law enforcement official told Newsweek, nor does the discovery suggest she did anything illegal. Also, none of the emails were to or from Clinton, the official said."

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918

 

These emails are making news because they were discovered on the computer shared by Anthony Weiner (being investigated for sexting) and his wife Uma Abedin who is a key Clinton aid. EVEN IF any email on that computer were deemed classified, Clinton neither sent them or received them, nor did they go through her server.

 

So, again, a nothingburger

[Jingthing]

It's not a nothingburger if enough undecided voters (those FREAKS!) think it's a somethingburger. There will be no further information before the election. That's not even possible for the FBI to do. So yes, the plot has thickened. 

[ttthailand]

It's possible if she loses but if she wins she can pardon herself. Can't Obama pardon her in advance anyway while he's still in office? 

Pardoned just before she is impeached

[keemapoot]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's not a nothingburger if enough undecided voters (those FREAKS!) think it's a somethingburger. There will be no further information before the election. That's not even possible for the FBI to do. So yes, the plot has thickened. 

 

Yes, this was a Hail Mary pass thrown in the last 30 seconds of the game on 4th and never. A last gasp for breath for the dying GOP, who had one more last agonizing scream before they die an agonizing death (or at least a long long crippling debilitating illness).

 

Comey will be remembered as the sacrificial lamb for the GOP no matter what his motivations were. He will be finished, except on the far right speaking circuit, as a highly paid expert on Fox News, and as a Patron Saint on the new Trump network.

[Jingthing]

Just now, ttthailand said:

Pardoned just before she is impeached

It's a given she would not be able to be president any longer in such a conviction scenario. Tim Kaine is MUCH BETTER than trump or Pence so she won't be losing her base voters from this. 

[Grubster]

9 hours ago, sirineou said:

Announcing something like this a few days before the election, is serious business.

Comey better make everything he has public very soon , or he is toast either way.

The democrats will go after him if he does not have anything but he negatively affects HRC's campaign. Or if HRC wins and then he come out with evidence that could have caused her to loose, the Republicans will go after him.

So unless he publishes soon he is toast. Either way his timing is terrible, this is not going to end well for him.

How should he have timed it, if its true that he was informed of these new findings just one day earlier.  I think they will find nothing to harm Hillary here and that will ensure that she can coast into the White House without any other bumps in the road.

[Grubster]

15 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

"There is no indication the emails in question were withheld by Clinton during the investigation, the law enforcement official told Newsweek, nor does the discovery suggest she did anything illegal. Also, none of the emails were to or from Clinton, the official said."

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918

 

These emails are making news because they were discovered on the computer shared by Anthony Weiner (being investigated for sexting) and his wife Uma Abedin who is a key Clinton aid. EVEN IF any email on that computer were deemed classified, Clinton neither sent them or received them, nor did they go through her server.

 

So, again, a nothingburger

So you would say that it would be OK for highly classified information to be in the hands of friends and family of a Secretary of state.

[keemapoot]

3 minutes ago, Grubster said:

How should he have timed it, if its true that he was informed of these new findings just one day earlier.  I think they will find nothing to harm Hillary here and that will ensure that she can coast into the White House without any other bumps in the road.

 

It will erode the magnitude of the Clinton win, and the GOP hope (and that of whoever sponsored Comey) is that it will help eliminate losses in the House, and avoid turning over control of the Senate. This plan may not work however, because GOP down-ticket candidates were already twisting themselves into knots over whether to support Trump, retract support, fake support, tacitly support etc., and now they will be further confounded into how they position themselves with this revelation.

 

The GOP congressional candidates are pretty much caught between a rock and the famous Anthony Weiner hard place. 

[Grubster]

3 minutes ago, keemapoot said:

 

It will erode the magnitude of the Clinton win, and the GOP hope (and that of whoever sponsored Comey) is that it will help eliminate losses in the House, and avoid turning over control of the Senate. This plan may not work however, because GOP down-ticket candidates were already twisting themselves into knots over whether to support Trump, retract support, fake support, tacitly support etc., and now they will be further confounded into how they position themselves with this revelation.

 

The GOP congressional candidates are pretty much caught between a rock and the famous Anthony Weiner hard place. 

I agree with all that but I think the FBI would be much more damned if they didn't  come out with the fact that they may have information now that could possibly make them rethink the criminality of Hillary's actions.

[Thakkar]

9 minutes ago, Grubster said:

So you would say that it would be OK for highly classified information to be in the hands of friends and family of a Secretary of state.

 

You are completely misrepresenting what I said.

[keemapoot]

Just now, Grubster said:

I agree with all that but I think the FBI would be much more damned if they didn't  come out with the fact that they may have information now that could possibly make them rethink the criminality of Hillary's actions.

 

I don't agree.  Any as yet unseen, un-analyzed, un-authenticated, un-defended emails are completely out of bounds 11 days before a Presidential election. I would say the same thing if they were about Trump - maybe an email that he had quickie in the public bathroom stall with Anthony Weiner at Grand Central Station.

[Grubster]

Just the connection to Anthony Wiener will be a devastating fact that was already well known to those in the know but is now all over the table for all to see.

[Grubster]

3 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

You are completely misrepresenting what I said.

Maybe but it sounded as though you were saying that if Classified information was e-mailed by either of Hillary's friends here that it would in no way implicate her. It certainly could.  Comey surely has seen something that is of great importance regarding Hillary or he would certainly have waited till after the election to announce anything that did not involve her.

[puukao]

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Trump WINS in a landslide.....

 

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Cubs lose....

 

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if you want my lottery numbers, send me 10 million baht.....

[attrayant]

Back in the 90's the Lewinsky scandal made Hillary hugely popular with women, who empathized her as the victim.  If Hillary somehow comes out of this again as a victim of Weiner's perversion or as a hero for providing emotional support to Weiner's wife, Hillary just may get another boost.

[attrayant]

2 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

What substantiated acts did Trump perform that justify him being branded with negative labels?

 

Assuming you consider his own personal Twitter feed to be substantiated:

 

The 282 People, Places and Things Donald Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List

[brewsterbudgen]

Maybe the best we can hope for now is a narrow Clinton win and then a President Tim Kaine before she can even be sworn in.

[dunroaming]

3 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

What substantiated acts did Trump perform that justify him being branded with negative labels? (This is a friendly challenge.)

 

Have many people's negative opinions of Trump been created and nurtured by by the 'Clinton Machine'?

 

I think peoples negative opinions of Trump result from the outrageous statements he makes himself.  No doubt the Clinton camp have tried the character assassination route and Trump is certainly an easy target for that but quite honestly most peoples repulsion of him started very early on.

 

Now is the chance for Trump to shout louder about the dreaded email furore and he will at the top of his voice.

[Thakkar]

26 minutes ago, Grubster said:

Maybe but it sounded as though you were saying that if Classified information was e-mailed by either of Hillary's friends here that it would in no way implicate her. It certainly could.  Comey surely has seen something that is of great importance regarding Hillary or he would certainly have waited till after the election to announce anything that did not involve her.

 

Using even more words to misrepresent what I said. I cannot respond to words you put in my mouth.

[Thaidream]

Here are a few substantiated acts that make me believe Donald Trump is a poor candidate for President-

1.  He has used the Bankruptcy laws to avoid payments to low level employees working in his Casino's in Atlantic City . They didn't get severance when the places closed and he never paid for benefits.

2. He used the eminent domain law to force an elderly woman from her lifelong home so he could build a parking lot .

3.  He used inflammatory language towards women; the disabled; people of color;  veterans and the family of an American serviceman killed in Iraq.

4. He has used hate speech and fuelled actions against Muslims; Hispanics and others that do not agree with him.

5. He lied about what he said to the Mexican President and the response.

6. When  discussing the alleged incidents with the women accusers- he used degrading language regarding his accusers

He is totally unqualified to be President of anything let alone of the USA.

 

[CWMcMurray]

If there was nothing new or damaging , I can not believe Comey would have brought this
Out..

As he clearly has no desire to bring charges against Hillary as previously closed case.

So this is now a total mess..

If Clinton gets elected, she's totally damaged and 4 years of pushing for charges.. Maybe grand jury, maybe impeachment

If Trump is elected, many on both sides of the aisle hate him and will be tough for him to get anything done...

Can we just forget this election and fast forward 4 years for the next election?

As would guess that no matter who is elected, they will likely be a 1 term wonder ..

As would venture that who ever either party put up to take on the sitting president will likely win

I've decided that I am not going to vote this year.. Period

I refuse to vote
For either of these two and hope that this election has lowest turn out ever to send a message to both of them


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[CWMcMurray]

 
Yeah, really serious move. Clinton is already screaming for him to disclose the nature of the investigation, and that he owes that to the American people. Otherwise, it's just a last ditch effort by the GOP putting pressure on their man to tip the scales. In any event, he has opened a new can of worms. If there is something the voters need to know, better tell everyone now. 

Of course she is, as she is smart..

She knows that there is no way that the FBI can or will release details this early in their investigation

So by saying this, she is hoping this positions her self and can get voters to accept this and hold off their judgment until details actually come out

Then when details actual come out, she will have already won the election so too late

I'm done with both of these candidates and refuse to vote for either

And am angrier than ever that DNC blocked Bernie from a fair race

As he would be running away with this election at this point if he was the nominee



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