Thai GF needs medical treatment

[fulhamboy]

Can any one help, My tgf is from Nakhon Sawan, but we are now living in Hua Hin,

is there a form she can use to get treatment in a hospital here without me paying

a fortune in medical fees, the hospital in Nakhon sawan is not advised for the

treatment she needs, and you must be registered in the district you live in,

I think !  Thanks    

[lopburi3]

That would be for free (30 baht) treatment.  She can pay at any hospital the same as you or I and for most things a government hospital would not be that expensive and not hard for a Thai speaker to navigate.  

 

She could also return to Nakhon Sawan to use that facility and if they are really not able to do procedure they would send her elsewhere for treatment from my understanding.  

[Sheryl]

Yes, she can get free  (or 30 baht) treatment at any hospital that the hospital  she is registered at refers her, just needs referral letter from the hospital.

 

They are not going to refer to a hospital in Hua Hin, though. They'll refer to the regional hospital in Nakorn Sawan town, which has much better and more extensive facilities than anyplace in or near Hua Hin does. (I'm assuming she is registered at a district hospital outside the amphur - can't believe there would be an issue of the facility being able to treat if she lived in the amphur and was already registered at the regional hospital).

[Pib]

Another possible way is if your GF knows a family in Hua Hin who would be willing to put her on their home blue book (tabien baan).  Then she could register for 30 baht medical support in a Hua Hin area hospital.

 

[Sheryl]

She can indeed get registered in Hua Hin, but if she has a condition that they hospital she is registered at in Nakon Sawon can't handle it likely can't be handled in Hua Hin either.

[fulhamboy]

13 hours ago, Pib said:

Another possible way is if your GF knows a family in Hua Hin who would be willing to put her on their home blue book (tabien baan).  Then she could register for 30 baht medical support in a Hua Hin area hospital.

 

Thanks Pib that was what I was looking for !

 

[fulhamboy]

16 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Yes, she can get free  (or 30 baht) treatment at any hospital that the hospital  she is registered at refers her, just needs referral letter from the hospital.

 

They are not going to refer to a hospital in Hua Hin, though. They'll refer to the regional hospital in Nakorn Sawan town, which has much better and more extensive facilities than anyplace in or near Hua Hin does. (I'm assuming she is registered at a district hospital outside the amphur - can't believe there would be an issue of the facility being able to treat if she lived in the amphur and was already registered at the regional hospital).

Hi Sheryl

She went to the Sawan hospital for tests they said come back in four weeks for the result

meantime we were advised the best doctor was at Petcharat hospital Petchburi, and the op would

cost with all expenses approx 100,000 baht, which we will go for, so after the op I want to find a hospital

close by in Hua Hin for check ups.

Thanks for reply  

George 

 

[Pib]

28 minutes ago, fulhamboy said:

Thanks Pib that was what I was looking for !

 

But it easier said than done....the key if finding some one willing to put her on their blue book.   But it can be done, because my mother-in-law did it since she lives in one province but prefers to use a  hospital in another province for her 30 baht medical coverage since it's smaller, less crowded, has some doctors at it she has seen for decades, and basically has the same medical capability as the larger hospital in her province.  Larger is not always more capable.   And a nurse who is a friend of the family arranged the blue blue name transfer as apparently it's not an uncommon practice depending on having family/friends who will allow the blue book change.

[Sheryl]

Actually she does not have to do it that way, could also get entered in the tabian ban for wherever is she actually lives. However, if it is a rental, that requires the cooperation of the landlord.

 

However it is done, requires that she be taken off the tabian ban she is currently listed in which may require a trip to that amphur.

 

As regards choice of hospital for treatment or follow-up, would need to know what the condition is that she is being treated for and the nature of the surgery. Not necessarily the case that the government hospital in Hua Him would be suitable for this. Nor are follow-up costs usually large - but again, depends on what the condition is.

 

Highly, highly unlikely that a doctor at Petcharat Hospital is the most expert in the country for anything, and also nto very likely tio be more expert than doctors i nthe regional hospital in Nakhon Sawan.  Possibly it is the best choice in the Hua Hin area, but that is far from being better than what she could get, for free, in Nakon Sawan.

[oldcarguy]

is there a negative for the landlord to put a renter on the tabian ban book ?

 

can they get into any kind of trouble if the renter does something the police get involved in ?

 

it just seems that  so many  people rent this is just something the landlord could hold over them , plus the hassle of going to the amphur with them....

[Sheryl]

No and no. The only negative is that the landlord has to spend time to go to the amphur with them. And the person has to travel to the amphur they are currently listed in to get off that listing as one can only be in one tabian ban.

 

Worth doing only if you plan to live in that same city/amphur there for some time...and are satifisfed with the quality of government medical services there vs where you are currently listed. In OP's case gf is registered in a province with a tertiary level hospital (though she may be registered at a lower level facility if she lives outside the provinicial capital). Nothing on that level in Hua Hin.

[fulhamboy]

34 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Actually she does not have to do it that way, could also get entered in the tabian ban for wherever is she actually lives. However, if it is a rental, that requires the cooperation of the landlord.

 

However it is done, requires that she be taken off the tabian ban she is currently listed in which may require a trip to that amphur.

 

As regards choice of hospital for treatment or follow-up, would need to know what the condition is that she is being treated for and the nature of the surgery. Not necessarily the case that the government hospital in Hua Him would be suitable for this. Nor are follow-up costs usually large - but again, depends on what the condition is.

 

Highly, highly unlikely that a doctor at Petcharat Hospital is the most expert in the country for anything, and also nto very likely tio be more expert than doctors i nthe regional hospital in Nakhon Sawan.  Possibly it is the best choice in the Hua Hin area, but that is far from being better than what she could get, for free, in Nakon Sawan.

Sheryl,

The doctor at Petchburi hospital has performed this op more than twenty times,

a friend of my Thai neighbour had the op performed there, my GF spoke to her

and she had nothing but praise for the doctor.

     

[Sheryl]

20 times is hardly a lot! I would personally hesitate to have surgery with someone who had not done at least a few hundred prioedures of the same type.

 

Again, without knowing what the surgery is, cannot comment on where best to go nor where best to get after care (or even know what if any after care will be required).

[Pib]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Actually she does not have to do it that way, could also get entered in the tabian ban for wherever is she actually lives. However, if it is a rental, that requires the cooperation of the landlord.

 

However it is done, requires that she be taken off the tabian ban she is currently listed in which may require a trip to that amphur.

 

 

Apparently you can be listed on two blue books in one form or another.  She still has her blue book were she actually lives as that is a home she owns and lives at...and her name is the first name on the blue book....has been for many, many years.  However she somehow got her name on another blue book also as apparently a person who just lives elsewhere (close to the hospital she wants to use and has major surgery at and a whole bunch of  treatment...and continue to go to)...maybe supposedly as a person who rents or possibly as a dependent....the in-law nurse made all the necessary magic happen.   The MIL's blue book never left her hands...she only needed to give the in-law nurse a copy of her Thai ID card and the blue book and self certified (signature) on the copies.

 

And this same arrangement has been made for the MIL's younger sister who only lives a few houses away....both of these fine old ladies just like using this one hospital in the next province and around 40Km away from them compared to the one in their province and only 10Km away.

Edited November 13, 2016 by Pib

[samsensam]

 

i find topics like this interesting, why is it up to the foreign partner to sort out thailand based issues for their thai partner? doesn't the thai national know how the system works here? and if they dont, why dont they ask their family and friends or the authorities, why do they need a foreigner to sort out such problems? just wondering...?

[fulhamboy]

2 hours ago, Pib said:

Apparently you can be listed on two blue books in one form or another.  She still has her blue book were she actually lives as that is a home she owns and lives at...and her name is the first name on the blue book....has been for many, many years.  However she somehow got her name on another blue book also as apparently a person who just lives elsewhere (close to the hospital she wants to use and has major surgery at and a whole bunch of  treatment...and continue to go to)...maybe supposedly as a person who rents or possibly as a dependent....the in-law nurse made all the necessary magic happen.   The MIL's blue book never left her hands...she only needed to give the in-law nurse a copy of her Thai ID card and the blue book and self certified (signature) on the copies.

 

And this same arrangement has been made for the MIL's younger sister who only lives a few houses away....both of these fine old ladies just like using this one hospital in the next province and around 40Km away from them compared to the one in their province and only 10Km away.

Thanks Pib will look into it next week, I have a one year rental on a condo here in Hua Hin, and the office people are very good, so can get her name on the lease. 

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

i find topics like this interesting, why is it up to the foreign partner to sort out thailand based issues for their thai partner? doesn't the thai national know how the system works here? and if they dont, why dont they ask their family and friends or the authorities, why do they need a foreigner to sort out such problems? just wondering...?

 

Sam - I am often in that situation because I have had a much more varied life experience than most of my farming family. It has never been left "up to me" to sort things out but I am more than willing to be involved in any way if needed by anyone in my family. I am surely more competent w/internet searches than they are... and financially more able which opens doors that they might never have considered. 

 

That said, I am a bit confused by the above conversation as our family and others in the village regularly and easily use better hospitals in neighboring provinces with no problems at all. 

[Pib]

You never know...that just may the hospital they are assigned to although they live in a different province.  Or they have a referral to the other hospital for treatment their issue which could be a long term, chronic issue.   Or they are just using another govt hospital and paying the bill for minor stuff.   Hospital assignment and use under the 30 baht appears to have some flexibility (above board and below board) ...and I'm not talking emergency treatment where you can go to any govt or private hospital.    And I have a couple of in-laws in Pattaya who have some how arranged medical care in Bangkok govt hospitals for some of their Pattaya relatives...and I'm not talking a referral action from the Pattaya hospital.