dentonian Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 18 hours ago, PiAnt said: I'm planning on THB 400,000 kept in a separate account, untouched for indefinite, annual non-Imm O visa renewals, or a possible permanent residency permit within the next few years prior to retirement. 6 hours ago, dentonian said: You mean an extension of stay based on marriage (400,000 in a Thai bank). You cannot renew a Visa, it expires. You renew your permission to stay, which is a Permit not a Visa. 47 minutes ago, Naam said: and you mean bla-bla... bla-bla... yakety-yak blabla The OP could have meant a Non Imm O ME Visa based on marriage. My reply was a question merely to confirm what he meant. If you really can't bother posting something useful, then why bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, SpokaneAl said: When discussing extensions of stay and visas on a thread that is providing insight, updates and advice, why not ensure that those terms are correct and precise? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect There's no need at all. There are a surprising number of <deleted> such as yourself willing to do the hard work to constantly remind everyone of the correct terms. The rest of us can just relax and continue to use the informal "retirement visa" nomenclature. Edited January 22, 2017 by ubonjoe Inflammatory comment removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonian Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, tropo said: The rest of us can just relax and continue to use the informal "retirement visa" nomenclature. Ah! Then you must be on the Non Imm O SE Visa, or is that the Non Imm O ME Visa, or it could be an extension based on retirement which isn't a Visa and doesn't allow entry to Thailand. No, your on the Non Imm O-A Visa, silly me. I've seen them all referred to as 'Retirement Visas'. When you figure out what you have, you can let us know. P.S. The secret is actually opening your passport and reading what's currently printed in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonian Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Referring to a member as a 'term nazi' is racist and highly offensive. The post should be edited and the member warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 On 22/11/2559 at 6:26 PM, Redline said: 3 million in the bank for the first year, or 100,000 a month income. Well, I'll have to sell my body. Or, maybe just a kidney? Better yet a reproductive sample for the brain trust that thought this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, dentonian said: Referring to a member as a 'term nazi' is racist and highly offensive. The post should be edited and the member warned. Umm. Nazi isn't a race; it was and still is a political party in various forms (I think the American Nazi Party is still in existence) so using the term isn't racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereinthailand Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Can anyone say Falang go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowny77 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) They should offer a similar deal with the same time frame of 10 years visa to people who have a wife or kid but at the current monetary rates, instead of the current 1 yr visa rubbish that we have to deal with now. Edited January 22, 2017 by chowny77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 On 11/22/2016 at 6:30 PM, Jingthing said: It's rather high, yes, for a large portion of us. The amount suggested is quite amazing considering the average Thai salary. Does this govt. understand this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 On 11/22/2016 at 6:32 PM, sjaak327 said: Sorry, I did not read that sentence, that's ludicrous, they are shooting themselves in the foot if true. Yes but do they care how it impacts the average Thai? Doubt it. But it will surely effect Thai economy if X pats leave. Think a/b the money lost each and every month. WOW. Brain dead idea.... no surprise re: Thai govt. ideas however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, selftaopath said: Yes but do they care how it impacts the average Thai? Doubt it. But it will surely effect Thai economy if X pats leave. Think a/b the money lost each and every month. WOW. Brain dead idea.... no surprise re: Thai govt. ideas however. No reason for expats to leave. For the umpteenth time, the 10 year visa is an optional choice. The vast majority of us will just keep doing what we've been doing, yearly extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The amount suggested is quite amazing considering the average Thai salary. Does this govt. understand this? Why is that relevant? Thais don't need visas. Most countries have restrictive financial requirements for visas like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Totally amazing. Now comes the opportunity for everybody that wishes, to lock up more money in a Thai bank for can stay in the country. Can´t just see anything negative with this offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 1/22/2017 at 4:13 PM, dentonian said: I've seen them all referred to as 'Retirement Visas'. When you figure out what you have, you can let us know. P.S. The secret is actually opening your passport and reading what's currently printed in it. every year my wife and i get stamps in our passports which are internationally called and perceived as VISAS plus an additional stamp which says RETIREMENT. that's why we refer to it as RETIREMENT VISA. eat your heart out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonian Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, Naam said: every year my wife and i get stamps in our passports which are internationally called and perceived as VISAS plus an additional stamp which says RETIREMENT. that's why we refer to it as RETIREMENT VISA. eat your heart out If your getting a stamp in your passport, then your getting an extension of stay based on retirement from your local Immigration office. Nowhere does it state Visa. It states extension of stay permitted until.............. A 1 year Visa would be multi entry. Try leaving and re-entering the Country on your 'Retirement Visa' and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 57 minutes ago, Naam said: every year my wife and i get stamps in our passports which are internationally called and perceived as VISAS plus an additional stamp which says RETIREMENT. that's why we refer to it as RETIREMENT VISA. eat your heart out To be fair you are getting an 'extension' stamp yearly not a visa although we all refer to it as you state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpokaneAl Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 To be fair you are getting an 'extension' stamp yearly not a visa although we all refer to it as you stateWhich is fine until advice is sought or given and both are based on individual perceptions of what he/she and other person are talking/asking about when referring to a "retirement visa", which could easily result in either a correct or totally wrong solution. I certainly would demand more than such a nebulous conclusion and discussion if I visited a doctor or a lawyer.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 1/22/2017 at 4:13 PM, dentonian said: Ah! Then you must be on the Non Imm O SE Visa, or is that the Non Imm O ME Visa, or it could be an extension based on retirement which isn't a Visa and doesn't allow entry to Thailand. No, your on the Non Imm O-A Visa, silly me. I've seen them all referred to as 'Retirement Visas'. When you figure out what you have, you can let us know. P.S. The secret is actually opening your passport and reading what's currently printed in it. LOL> I've got the same as 99.9% of the retired members here have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 1/22/2017 at 4:15 PM, dentonian said: Referring to a member as a 'term nazi' is racist and highly offensive. The post should be edited and the member warned. Why would you quote a term that you think is offensive and should be deleted from a post? Now we have 2 more because the original was deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 hours ago, dentonian said: If your getting a stamp in your passport, then your getting an extension of stay based on retirement from your local Immigration office. Nowhere does it state Visa. It states extension of stay permitted until.............. A 1 year Visa would be multi entry. Try leaving and re-entering the Country on your 'Retirement Visa' and see what happens. Nja, that would only be possible if you applied for a re-entry permit at your immigration office. See there is a chance anyway! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 hours ago, dentonian said: If your getting a stamp in your passport, then your getting an extension of stay based on retirement from your local Immigration office. Nowhere does it state Visa. It states extension of stay permitted until.............. A 1 year Visa would be multi entry. Try leaving and re-entering the Country on your 'Retirement Visa' and see what happens. what part of "eat your heart out!" is it you don't understand newbie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, LannaGuy said: To be fair you are getting an 'extension' stamp yearly not a visa although we all refer to it as you state Yet, if you re-enter, your entry stamp has 'Visaclass: non-RE' clearly marked. I'd say the non-RE means: non-immigrant visa - retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Naam said: what part of "eat your heart out!" is it you don't understand newbie? The newbies are taking over where the oldies have given up. There's always some new member with a heavy dose of OCD willing to take the baton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Quote visa ˈviːzə/ noun noun: visa; plural noun: visas an endorsement on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonian Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Jeez, some of guys will just continue to criticise those who try to use the correct terminology in order to educate those who want to learn and understand the process. In return you offer nothing in the way of helpful replies to anyone, just adding to the confusion you continually create. Newbie! You think experience is judged by post count. I suppose there's one in every village, and I don't mean post boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonian Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Naam said: visa ˈviːzə/ noun noun: visa; plural noun: visas an endorsement on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country. Oh Dear! You're really clutching at straws now aren't you. The operative word that you should have highlighted was 'OR'. A Visa for Thailand allows you to 'enter'........that's it, full stop. The 90 day permission to stay is completely separate and granted under the Immigration laws. You can 'leave' whenever you want (if only). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savilesghost Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 11 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: Why is that relevant? Thais don't need visas. Most countries have restrictive financial requirements for visas like this. Most countries dont even allow retirement visas any more, and your correct many have quite high finanical requirements and for good reason, they want to make sure a pensioner has adequate financial means to ensure so they dont become a burden on the state. Cant see what opposition is by some people, farangs have been howling for a longer visa for years and now it appears there is a 10 year one availible they are still whinging....some one stated " farang go home" in post...strange comment, if Thai authorites didnt want farangs here they wouldnt be doing this 10 year visa would they ? Thailand provides multple, low hassle routes for long term stay in Thailand , this is not indicative of a country who doesnt want long term stayers, so what do we have ? 5 year visas for all 20 year visas for all In process - 10 year retirement visa Investment visas Seems to me Thailand is pretty generous as regards whats availible to pensioners as regards T&Cs and finanical requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonian Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 But what Thailand doesn't offer is a route to permanent residency for those who are married to a Thai national and prove a monthly income, which is the basis for permanent residency in many other Countries. Everything offered is based on 'temporary stays of 90 days' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savilesghost Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, dentonian said: But what Thailand doesn't offer is a route to permanent residency for those who are married to a Thai national and prove a monthly income, which is the basis for permanent residency in many other Countries. Everything offered is based on 'temporary stays of 90 days' Yes it does...the route is there, its whether one qualifies or not is the question No different to the UK, British citizen marries a Thai, cant meet finanical requirements for UK, Thai national will not be getting UK PR and will not be getting in the UK either The 90 day reporting thing is hardly a burden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentonian Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Savilesghost said: Yes it does...the route is there, its whether one qualifies or not is the question No different to the UK, British citizen marries a Thai, cant meet finanical requirements for UK, Thai national will not be getting UK PR and will not be getting in the UK either The 90 day reporting thing is hardly a burden The route to PR in Thailand is based on working and paying taxes for a number of years, or making a substantial investment. Most expats living here have retired, having spent their years working and saving to afford retirement in Thailand. In the UK, the sponsor has a financial commitment, but the Thai spouse has the right to work and after 5 years she gets ILR. She doesn't have to work, pay taxes or make a substantial investment. Her permanent residency is based on a continuous marriage and living in the UK for 5 years. The UK offers a Visa for a route to residency, Thailand doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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