NGV bus scandal: Getting more likely that company will lose contract

[snoop1130]

NGV bus scandal: Getting more likely that company will lose contract

 

 

It is getting more and more likely that the company who won a contract to supply the BMTA with 489 NGV buses will not be able to meet the delivery date.

This could mean that the BMTA will take a deposit left with a bank and the deal could be cancelled.

PPTV said that it was "getting more and more likely" that the deal would be called off. 

 

Bestrin Co Ltd have until near the end of the month to fulfil their obligation.

Meanwhile the first consignment of buses is still parked at the Laem Chabang port with others on container ships in the Gulf unable to dock as there is nowhere to park the vehicles.

And in a latest development PPTV quoted customs sources that they suspect that the weight of the vehicles was the same after they left China as when they left Malaysia bound for Thailand.

This would mean they were possibly not adapted in any way and were fully made and assembled only in China.

This would mean that the "Form D" stating they were made in Malaysia was a fraud and that the vehicles would be liable to a much higher rate of tax than if they enjoyed Asean tax privileges.

PPTV said that Bestrin had a lot of explaining to do.

Thai Rath meanwhile wrote a damning editorial piece that spoke of a web of corruption over the supply of the buses in five successive governments.

They said that originally in the Taksin Shinawatra days a plan to supply 4,000 NGV vehicles at a cost of 67 billion baht was mooted. 

 

In the Samak, Aphisit and Yingluck governments the corruption continued, said Thai Rath.

Even today when the price for 3,183 vehicles was set at 13 billion baht the issue "smelt bad".

 

The newspaper was critical of the Prayut regime who they said spoke about ending corruption only for a further embarrassment to occur under their watch in the latest case playing out at Laem Chabang port.

The vehicles were due to be presented in a PR exercise with the PM next week and actually be used by the public next day on December 22nd.

This is now beginning to look unlikely as customs continue to delve into the matter.

Sources: http://bit.ly/2hdNFq1 and http://www.thairath.co.th/content/805212

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-12-09

[tomacht8]

Made in china

Declared as from malaysia

smells like tax fraud.

 

[ChrisY1]

Just the never ending drama of scams, fraud and corruption....and now on the junta' watch.......

None have any idea how to manage anything without cheating...government, police, military and business houses. Endemic fraud seems to be instilled everywhere.....and it's clear that things will not change.

[GiantFan]

Smells like Nirvana.

[fruitman]

And nobody will go to jail for it, not even loose their job.

[worgeordie]

They just cannot help themselves,and pull a fast one,to maximise profit

at the expense of the country,the importer is going to have to come up

with the extra taxes and duties,or be left with 489 NGV buses on his hands,

and lose the deposit.

regards worgeordie

[colinneil]

You could not make up things like this.

Surely someone should have checked things before now.

Made in China but   supposedly fitted out/finished in Malaysia, massive order and nobody checked bu.....t.

Somebody paid a backhander to look the other way.

[Banana7]

I am happy to hear the Customs guys are doing their job. Well done!

 

If it was the previous government, the Customs guys may have been silenced. Thank goodness the Army is in control, and support government officials in doing their jobs properly.  

 

[Johpa]

Smells like Nirvana.

Smells like Thai spirit.

[trogers]

Contract cancelled. Buses will be shipped back to Malaysia?

[fstarbkk]

24 minutes ago, trogers said:

Contract cancelled. Buses will be shipped back to Malaysia?

 

Nah, they will be parked indefinitely, next to the rotting Austrian fire engines.

[Reigntax]

16 minutes ago, fstarbkk said:

 

Nah, they will be parked indefinitely, next to the rotting Austrian fire engines.

 

Will that be in sight of the rusting aircraft carrier next to the warehouse holding the GT 200 bomb detectors/drug detectors/brown paper bag detectors?

[naboo]

3 hours ago, Banana7 said:

I am happy to hear the Customs guys are doing their job. Well done!

 

If it was the previous government, the Customs guys may have been silenced. Thank goodness the Army is in control, and support government officials in doing their jobs properly.  

 

Can I ask, who benefits from this situation?

[Thechook]

3 hours ago, trogers said:

Contract cancelled. Buses will be shipped back to Malaysia?

Probably be more like, contract cancelled and we will keep these freebies. 

[BSJ]

I find it quite amusing that some Malaysian crook though that he could slip a BIG one like that past Thai customs.  Let the story unfold and the humour commence!

 

[IMA_FARANG]

Mkes no difference, the government officials hav already got their "commission" money.

 

[bangkokfrog]

48 minutes ago, BSJ said:

I find it quite amusing that some Malaysian crook though that he could slip a BIG one like that past Thai customs.  Let the story unfold and the humour commence!

 

I think you will find that Bestrin Co Ltd is a Thai company which sourced the buses from China and routed them through a Malay entity to avoid import duty. This is a typical corruption tactic where the money flows through a Thai "middleman" which takes a big slice off the top and passes most of it around to the government and political cronies that helped them win the contract.

[PatOngo]

Great!........No loss of face then.

[trogers]

35 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Great!........No loss of face then.

 

Big lost of face - Bestr in...what?

[Ricardo]

Does this mean that more-than-a-decade's worth of brown-envelopes will have to be returned-to-sender ?

[ratcatcher]

9 hours ago, fstarbkk said:

 

Nah, they will be parked indefinitely, next to the rotting Austrian fire engines.

That is only the 145 buses that have been landed at Laem Chabang. There are still 344 buses reportedly on ships, anchored offshore, unable to dock because they, the authorities, say there is no room to store them. (There are thousands of rai of empty lots that could be used.

It is no wonder that TVF members and anyone aware of this debacle/fiasco are laughing at the authorities. Bangkok needs the buses but the amount of red tape yet to be cut will ensure that they will not be carrying fare paying passengers anytime soon.

If it wasn't so pathetic it really would be hilarious.

 

The buses being purchased are produced in China by Sun Long Company are able to transport 60 people at a time with lowered emissions versus traditional fuel buses. The vehicles also come equipped with wheelchair access and foldable seating to accommodate the disabled. :

 

- See more at: http://nwnt.prd.go.th/CenterWeb/NewsEN/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNSOC5909300010030#sthash.ESLrz7gq.dpuf

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[GAZZPA]

13 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Made in china

Declared as from malaysia

smells like tax fraud.

 

This practice of pretending the items were made with the Asean but in fact just shipped around after being fully made in China is all too common. 

[GAZZPA]

41 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

Does this mean that more-than-a-decade's worth of brown-envelopes will have to be returned-to-sender ?

that money is long gone.

[GAZZPA]

13 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Just the never ending drama of scams, fraud and corruption....and now on the junta' watch.......

None have any idea how to manage anything without cheating...government, police, military and business houses. Endemic fraud seems to be instilled everywhere.....and it's clear that things will not change.

Too true. How can a Government tackle corruption when tax payers money it being stolen at high levels like this.

[NongKhaiKid]

So it's a case of ' there won't be another one along in a couple of minutes ' .

[robblok]

I wonder why everyone is blaming the government. They bought the busses for an importer at an agreed upon price.

The importer is the one doing the tax fraud to keep his costs down.

Can blame the government for a thing.

Seems people want the government to commit fraud just to get the busses.

In fact its the importer that just had to pay the tax and the government gets their busses.

He won't do that because his loss would be to big.

[louse1953]

13 hours ago, Banana7 said:

I am happy to hear the Customs guys are doing their job. Well done!

 

If it was the previous government, the Customs guys may have been silenced. Thank goodness the Army is in control, and support government officials in doing their jobs properly.  

 

To true,but to the detrement of Thai people.And who in their right mind will do biz with Thailand if there is no 10% on top.

[louse1953]

11 hours ago, trogers said:

Contract cancelled. Buses will be shipped back to Malaysia?

Drive them to China to pickup all those tourists.These buses will end up next to the fire trucks.

[Bangkok Barry]

10 hours ago, naboo said:

Can I ask, who benefits from this situation?

 

The law. Better to ask who doesn't benefit, and that is those involved in fraud and tax evasion.