webfact Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Ex-commerce minister Boonsong and five associates told to pay 20 billion baht in compensation from G-to-G rice deals BANGKOK: -- The Foreign Trade Department has sent an administrative notice to the Legal Execution Department to demand about 20 billion baht in compensation for the loss from 6 million tonnes of G-to-G rice deals from six individuals, including former commerce minister Boonsong Teripaphirom and his deputy, Poom Sarasin. FTD director-general Mrs Duangporn Rodpayat said Monday that two similar notices were served on the six individuals through the Legal Execution Department to pay the compensation and the deadlines had expired. The other four individuals are Pol Lt-Col Veeravuth Watjanapukka, former secretary of Mr Boonsong, former FTD director-general Manas Soithong and former FTD deputy director-general Tikumporn Nartworathat. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-commerce-minister-boonsong-five-associates-told-pay-20-billion-baht-compensation-g-g-rice-deals/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Why? The previous govt sold rice so cheap to other govt that there was a big loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Did yingluck pay her fine yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 3 hours ago, trogers said: Why? The previous govt sold rice so cheap to other govt that there was a big loss? They sold the rice to a fake company and that company never exported the rice but put it back in the system (for the price that YL offered high above market value). Because the fake company was supposed to be a representing a foreign government they were allowed to sell the rice at a really low price to that company and by then selling it back to the rice program of YL they made quite a bit of money. This was corruption on a large scale, the corruption YL said was not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, robblok said: They sold the rice to a fake company and that company never exported the rice but put it back in the system (for the price that YL offered high above market value). Because the fake company was supposed to be a representing a foreign government they were allowed to sell the rice at a really low price to that company and by then selling it back to the rice program of YL they made quite a bit of money. This was corruption on a large scale, the corruption YL said was not there. Ahhh... Like a snake devouring it's tail... Edited December 20, 2016 by trogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Don't hold your breath waiting for that to be paid. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ulic said: Don't hold your breath waiting for that to be paid. ' Perhaps Thailand should allow those with insufficient funds the alternative to their fines of jail time. B100/day sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 "Can we give you an I.O.U., regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I thought the junta Government has a water tight case. Why the need for junta PM to invoke Section 44 to give immunity to legal execution officers in handling demands for compensation for losses. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Boonsong and five associates told to pay 20 billion baht does this mean they will pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: I thought the junta Government has a water tight case. Why the need for junta PM to invoke Section 44 to give immunity to legal execution officers in handling demands for compensation for losses. ???? Yawn yawn yawn. Why , el, is it so difficult for you to see that there was massive and wide spread corruption involved in this case? Why, el, is it so difficult for you to see that the officers involved were very frightened that certain folks, if they could, would find a way to severely punish the officials who revealed the details / the truth? Not surprising that the officials have strong concerns and fears on this point. Actually not so difficult to understand el, except for those who admire scaly immoral massively corrupt individuals / families, no hesitation to be corrupt, no hesitation to try to hoodwink Thailand at 3.00 am in the morning, etc., etc., etc.. Edited December 20, 2016 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The man from udon Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Are they still in the country,saying that they will be given 10 years of appealing and then do a runner so there's no rush.20 billion baht,these boys don't mess about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 " Demanded about 20 Billion baht " But will settle for 3,457 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, scorecard said: Yawn yawn yawn. Why , el, is it so difficult for you to see that there was massive and wide spread corruption involved in this case? Why, el, is it so difficult for you to see that the officers involved were very frightened that certain folks, if they could, would severely punish the officials who revealed the details? Actually not so difficult to understand el, except for those who admire scaly immoral massively corrupt individuals / families. Corruption should be dealt with the full might of the law. When you invoke something out of the ordinary like immunity for witnesses, it just bring up a lot of question. If the charges are based on sufficient evidence, you don't need protection. Corruption also has different interpretation and consequences in this junta government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 40 minutes ago, scorecard said: Yawn yawn yawn. Why , el, is it so difficult for you to see that there was massive and wide spread corruption involved in this case? Why, el, is it so difficult for you to see that the officers involved were very frightened that certain folks, if they could, would find a way to severely punish the officials who revealed the details / the truth? Not surprising that the officials have strong concerns and fears on this point. Actually not so difficult to understand el, except for those who admire scaly immoral massively corrupt individuals / families, no hesitation to be corrupt, no hesitation to try to hoodwink Thailand at 3.00 am in the morning, etc., etc., etc.. Fine. Let's have transparent legal cases heard by independent judges, where the junta might have to swallow 'Not Guilty' verdicts. If not this is simply a case of demanding money with menaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 ...and can we ask them to pay for lunch too..... TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Corruption should be dealt with the full might of the law. When you invoke something out of the ordinary like immunity for witnesses, it just bring up a lot of question. If the charges are based on sufficient evidence, you don't need protection. Corruption also has different interpretation and consequences in this junta government. Nice textbook answer el, but deliberately ignoring the actual and quite possible actions, including life threatening actions of the immoral folks involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, scorecard said: Nice textbook answer el, but deliberately ignoring the actual and quite possible actions, including life threatening actions of the immoral folks involved. Nice little side-step to avoid a reply. The only threatening action seem to come from the military who are above law not like ordinary folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 38 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Nice little side-step to avoid a reply. The only threatening action seem to come from the military who are above law not like ordinary folks. "The only threatening action seem to come from the military who are above law not like ordinary folks. " How naive can you get el? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, scorecard said: "The only threatening action seem to come from the military who are above law not like ordinary folks. " How naive can you get el? Naive? Who? When the military tore up the highest law in the country and grant themselves amnesty??? Ordinary folks can? You so loaded with junta kool-aid that you lose all sense of reality and judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Naive? Who? When the military tore up the highest law in the country and grant themselves amnesty??? Ordinary folks can? You so loaded with junta kool-aid that you lose all sense of reality and judgement. The current situation is far from ideal, not rocket science. But el, you know full well why they reacted. You also know full well what I am referring too, but of course you try to lead the discussion well away from that reality, because it doesn't suit your agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 58 minutes ago, scorecard said: The current situation is far from ideal, not rocket science. Far from ideal may come from you but to me it is disaster. A tanked economy, skewed charter that will ensure military dominance, forced 20 years reforms, media control, internet control, 44 abuses, military courts, AA, arbitrary jailing of people expressing opinions etc. list goes on. Pity you ignore all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 9 hours ago, webfact said: told to pay 20 billion baht in compensation from G-to-G rice deals told to and will pay are universes apart. Fillet the fish before the election BBQ. Would any person having political ambitions please stand up. Is there such a thing as throwing an election party and nobody comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 4 hours ago, halloween said: Perhaps Thailand should allow those with insufficient funds the alternative to their fines of jail time. B100/day sounds about right. Who would want to come back in the next life under these conditions?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Graham Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 3 hours ago, scorecard said: Yawn yawn yawn. Why , el, is it so difficult for you to see that there was massive and wide spread corruption involved in this case? Why, el, is it so difficult for you to see that the officers involved were very frightened that certain folks, if they could, would find a way to severely punish the officials who revealed the details / the truth? Not surprising that the officials have strong concerns and fears on this point. Actually not so difficult to understand el, except for those who admire scaly immoral massively corrupt individuals / families, no hesitation to be corrupt, no hesitation to try to hoodwink Thailand at 3.00 am in the morning, etc., etc., etc.. Scorecard, Scorecard!!! Can't you just answer his question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 3 hours ago, baboon said: Fine. Let's have transparent legal cases heard by independent judges, where the junta might have to swallow 'Not Guilty' verdicts. If not this is simply a case of demanding money with menaces. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/supreme-court-accept-g-to-g-rice-case-against-boonsong-and-associates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 40 minutes ago, halloween said: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/supreme-court-accept-g-to-g-rice-case-against-boonsong-and-associates/ Not judged yet...... Or is being indicted a sufficient ground to be fined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, candide said: Not judged yet...... Or is being indicted a sufficient ground to be fined? In the highly unlikely event of this lot being found innocent, they can apply to have their fine rescinded. Or would you prefer that criminals be allowed to profit for their crimes by appealing until the SOL prevents civil restitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, halloween said: In the highly unlikely event of this lot being found innocent, they can apply to have their fine rescinded. Or would you prefer that criminals be allowed to profit for their crimes by appealing until the SOL prevents civil restitution? "they can apply to have their fine rescinded.". Is it sure? Apply to whom? Is there a time limitation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 5 hours ago, scorecard said: Yawn yawn yawn. Why , el, is it so difficult for you to see that there was massive and wide spread corruption involved in this case? Why, el, is it so difficult for you to see that the officers involved were very frightened that certain folks, if they could, would find a way to severely punish the officials who revealed the details / the truth? Not surprising that the officials have strong concerns and fears on this point. Actually not so difficult to understand el, except for those who admire scaly immoral massively corrupt individuals / families, no hesitation to be corrupt, no hesitation to try to hoodwink Thailand at 3.00 am in the morning, etc., etc., etc.. None as blind as them who don't wish to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now