6thST Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, khwaibah said: Morons these drivers are and the government does not do a thing to correct it. Most likely the driver was drunk....? Edited December 22, 2016 by 6thST Misspelled a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 For long trips the schools should have the sense to insist on a relief driver. Maybe on short trips too, as Thais could fall asleep on a washing line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Fall asleep briefly? Thank God not a long time...Probably the emergency services had to wake him up to tell him what happened!!!!!!Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, poohy said: As moronic as he is! the company should have provided 2 drivers for this distance but no that's too expensive and very probably the school wanted the cheapest (not the safest option) Yes, at times the lack of care and concern can be staggering. Look at the supposed ' adult leadership ' of the scouts and guides that happily had them on an overloaded bus a few days ago. Edited December 22, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Asiantravel said: yesterday the Prime Minister expressed concern about road safety although not a murmur from the transport Minister who surely is responsible for this daily carnage. If it's not a bus it's a minivan day in day out and they can see what it takes by looking at NCA bus company who always has 2 drivers on its overnight routes. So they are putting cost above safety If the silly little general would just give the Transport Minister a target to reduce road deaths bu half next year or lose his place at the trough, you might actually see something worthwhile happen. Mind you, he'd have to hire in outside consultants to formulate a sensible strategy and see it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesinnz Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Sure low wages for the drivers, but even forgetting personal cost, just how many drivers could they employ for the cost of recovering and repairing the bus...? Probably enough to pay the drivers wages of a driver for a good few years - as the "extra" driver that should be used in this sort of situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 It's either nodding off and crashing or being wired on ya ba and crashing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, samsensam said: where is the public outcry about these tragic and unnecessary accidents? dont the parents care? where is the media outcry? i guess it's just mai pen rai... The problem is that if someone complains and is "outraged" by this stupidity, they will likely face more punishment for "slander" than this @#$%$# will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 thank goodness he only fell asleep "briefly" id hate to have seen what a good 30 minute nap would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, paulbj2 said: Tachographs are fitted to most commercial vehicles in the Europe, moreover in some countries, a driver can be prosecuted for speeding just based on the Tacho record as it records speed accurately. Of course people do dream up ways to fiddle them but overall, yes, they do keep drivers from attempting to drive ridiculous hours. Wow - Europe still uses these ? Are the trucks still steam powered ? North American now uses these - https://eldfacts.com/eld-mandate/ Edited December 22, 2016 by canthai55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, khwaibah said: Morons these drivers are and the government does not do a thing to correct it. Isn't that just one side of the countless bus accidents? How about holding the companies responsible for pushing the drivers working double shifts without adequate rest hours? Edited December 22, 2016 by Lupatria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Asiantravel said: yesterday the Prime Minister expressed concern about road safety although not a murmur from the transport Minister who surely is responsible for this daily carnage. If it's not a bus it's a minivan day in day out and they can see what it takes by looking at NCA bus company who always has 2 drivers on its overnight routes. So they are putting cost above safety You mean there actually is a transport minister?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, canthai55 said: Wow - Europe still uses these ? Are the trucks still steam powered ? North American now uses these - https://eldfacts.com/eld-mandate/ "North American"..................just the one then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The Thai people seem to have an amazing resilience to continual bad news stories like this that are life threatening to all, but yet they just keep ignoring the problem. Thailand really is amazing. I think it should be Mind Boggling Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, dcsw53 said: I heard that in some countries they use things called tachographs ( not sure of the spelling ). Apparently these are inexpensive pieces of kit designed to stop drivers of commercial vehicles from being <deleted> driving too fast or too long. It would be shame if they were introduced here, the number of daily news stories like this would plummet. Imagine tachographs getting used in this country, all it would take is some tea money to the BiB, and they would get torn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, flyingdoc said: Surely 2 drivers for a CM to BKK route overnight?? If I am reading the article correctly it was a BKK-CM-BKK trip all in one day/night. Driver set out from Bangkok on Tuesday, arrived in Chiang Mai in the evening, then immediately started the return journey to Bangkok. That must be around 18 hours round trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I've got a couple of in-laws who drive for a living....good, honest people.....they work brutally long hours, 12 to 18 hours, 6 days a week....and sometimes 7 days a week....and the wages are low. Their wages are based on X-amount per trip or how many trips they can do in one day; the wages are not based on a set amount per month. And there are so, so many people ready to take their job if they quit or complain....the drivers have no bargaining power with their employer. In terms of labor laws protecting the drivers, they are weak to non-existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
licka Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, poohy said: As moronic as he is! the company should have provided 2 drivers for this distance but no that's too expensive and very probably the school wanted the cheapest (not the safest option) 2 drivers is not the answer They will sit together and talk, so neither will be rested Give the driver a proper break and somewhere to sleep that's not a seat on the bus Edited December 22, 2016 by licka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 In the pic ID 7 it looks like the bus has nodded off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 "roadside souvenir sop"<---What's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 50 minutes ago, possum1931 said: You mean there actually is a transport minister?? Yup, just fyi; there is a justice minister too..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 8 hours ago, khwaibah said: Morons these drivers are and the government does not do a thing to correct it. Nothing to do with the government. I'm sure there are laws in the books already but passing laws is one thing, the task of enforcing them is the job of the police. Which is where comes in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 A post using ALL CAPS has been removed, please turn off your Caps Lock when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john davis Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just keep off these tour buses in Thailand your just not safe at all if you need to travel drive yourself yet another driver falls asleep at the wheel this is the 2nd accident in a few days be safe keep off the buses.......you have either speeding buses they lose control or falling asleep a lot just have no road sense at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, ourmanflint said: The Thai people seem to have an amazing resilience to continual bad news stories like this that are life threatening to all, but yet they just keep ignoring the problem. Thailand really is amazing. I think it should be Mind Boggling Thailand "This is the way Thai people do" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 9 hours ago, khwaibah said: Morons these drivers are and the government does not do a thing to correct it. I really do wonder if the Government cares! Because they (through the RTP and other "agencies") do absolutely nothing, year in and year out. C'mon Mr PM, show some action initiative to clean up the road toll for the benefit of your people. Or are they too busy looking after themselves and their friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 5 hours ago, samsensam said: where is the public outcry about these tragic and unnecessary accidents? dont the parents care? where is the media outcry? i guess it's just mai pen rai... There never is any public outcry because it's almost a daily occurrence, Thai population have had a lifetime of this news & have been thoroughly de-sensitised! Don't expect any changes soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madusa Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 If the Thai government wants to solve this problem they know they need to spend a lot of money and the private sector (that is the bus owner or transport company) also have to spend money or give drivers time off to attend the course, then who is going to drive. I think they called it "Defensive Driving", this course will teach drivers how to driver properly. The government provides this course and the private sector needs to pay. Anyway payment of money is involved the government doesn't want to do it unless the big guy gets something out of it. The private sector even more reluctant they want more profit not spending money to train drivers, they don't really care if passengers live or die from what I see. Otherwise they would have got together and get the government to do something. They didn't did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnikaIII Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 While there is International outcry about the hideous murder in Berlin, this sort of thing in Thailand, a not uncommon tragedy, does not even get a mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well thank Buddha nobody was seriously hurt. I guess the bus hadn't had the 30 degree test....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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