Video: Hunt on for foreigners who disrespected Thai flag

[Travel2003]

We have so far covered Genocide (Nazis), religious extremism, flag burning in general, forefathers patriotic fight, suggested punishments, gun laws, etc.

Strangely enough there has not been any rants between (American) Republicans & Democrats yet.

 

 

[Sooo Upto Me]

10 minutes ago, Mangostin said:

 

 

 

I think i know what's going on here! 

If you ever went for a skying holiday on the Dolomites, you'll probably knows too.

Sud-Tyrol was once part of Austria, before to become italian, in fact the resentment about it, it's still so high that many people even refuse to speak italian, that's why you can find people named "Tobias" or "Ian" in Italy, it's NOT a mistake, and that's the reason for the german's accent/names and italian's passports, well spotted to the people up here  

 

 

That's ok, u can send me a cheque at ur discretion.  ???

 

[aussienam]

6 hours ago, chrisinth said:

I will have no sympathy for these two when they are caught and really do hope they do time for this.

 

For anyone thinking this is a trivial matter, try doing this to your own national flag in your home country.......................

I agree that something should be done, but sadly you mention one's own home country - well in Australia the flag is frequently set alight, people told to stop waving in demonstrations as well as it 'might upset the minority groups'.  It is considered 'racist' now to wave the Australian flag.  People so livid and upset over Islamic minded Middle Eastern males calling Aussie women sluts and picking fights on a local Sydney beach - the bashing of several lifeguards being the catalyst - went onto the streets in protest and rightly upset over years of intimidation and violence.  A number of protestors got out of hand and a few people were attacked.  In retaliation, hoards of Middle Eastern males came back with weapons and ended up stabbing someone who had nothing to do with the street protest.  As a result the flag is now seen as racist and the socialist left have demonised it ever since.  

Even Australia Day is not as patriotic anymore and flags are not flown in many places so as not to upset people.  

I am glad Thailand has not ended up like this and Thai people are still patriotic and proud of their flag and what it represents.  Good on you Thai people.  

[4MyEgo]

1 minute ago, kannot said:

gosh what next urinating in public.......ooops  I forgot you can see that daily here from the locals

 

Don't understand your beef, do you condone their actions ?

[kannot]

1 minute ago, aussienam said:

I agree that something should be done, but sadly you mention one's own home country - well in Australia the flag is frequently set alight, people told to stop waving in demonstrations as well as it 'might upset the minority groups'.  It is considered 'racist' now to wave the Australian flag.  People so livid and upset over Islamic minded Middle Eastern males calling Aussie women sluts and picking fights on a local Sydney beach - the bashing of several lifeguards being the catalyst - went onto the streets in protest and rightly upset over years of intimidation and violence.  A number of protestors got out of hand and a few people were attacked.  In retaliation, hoards of Middle Eastern males came back with weapons and ended up stabbing someone who had nothing to do with the street protest.  As a result the flag is now seen as racist and the socialist left have demonised it ever since.  

Even Australia Day is not as patriotic anymore and flags are not flown in many places so as not to upset people.  

I am glad Thailand has not ended up like this and Thai people are still patriotic and proud of their flag and what it represents.  Good on you Thai people.  

and what "exactly"  does their flag represent to them?

For me the UK flag is  nothing more than and identification of which country

[JohnThailandJohn]

6 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

YOU are correct about how to act in a foreign country.

 

However, if you were in my home country you could spit,  stomp on,  and burn my countries flag in public and you would have the protection of the law for your actions.

 

It's called freedom of expression/speech.

 

If a country does not allow for  that then  anyone breaking the law in a foreign country  should realize the potential  gravity of his actions.

 

In your country vandalism is considered freedom of speech and you can destroy other people's property?

Edited January 9, 2017 by JohnThailandJohn

[sd44]

Countries seem to get so upset regarding a piece of coloured cloth.

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[todlad]

5 hours ago, cmsally said:

Seriously looking at that, a lot of tourists would not be aware that they were Thai flags. For starters they are hanging the wrong way around and to anyone else apart from a Thai , probably look like shopping mall decoration.

 

Pah! Of course, no one would dream of having a flag looking like that let alone hanging them up in celebration or mourning or even national pride. These Thais, eh?

[kannot]

4 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Don't understand your beef, do you condone their actions ?

try reading one of my many posts on this topic.............although i do admit I am at a loose end today

[onthesoi]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

 

 ....a group of Thai girls walked down a street in Germany wearing Nazi uniforms ?   

 

Cheers, I've been struggling to think of a gift for my tgf.

Edited January 9, 2017 by onthesoi

[todlad]

6 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

YOU are correct about how to act in a foreign country.

 

However, if you were in my home country you could spit,  stomp on,  and burn my countries flag in public and you would have the protection of the law for your actions.

 

It's called freedom of expression/speech.

 

If a country does not allow for  that then  anyone breaking the law in a foreign country  should realize the potential  gravity of his actions.

 

Which country is that then?

[dunroaming]

You used to be able to get underpants with a picture of Thaksin on the back.  In fact the picture was on the inside of the back so skid marks were actively encouraged.

 

The young Italians were just being drunken fools.  I think most of us have done such stupid things when we were younger.  There is a case for criminal damage apart from anything else and maybe that should be the basis for the punishment.

[fruitman]

Those italian boys were almost crying on the video i saw on Stickboy's website. They waied a few times and were scared to death. They will never forget this holiday i think.

 

But vandalism shouldn't be free of punishment, they should pay for the damage they did.

[soalbundy]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

 

   I wonder what would happen if a group of Thai girls walked down a street in Germany wearing Nazi uniforms ?    

   With a group of nationalist Germans on one side and a group of Israeli hating illegal Muslim  immigrants on the other ?

   My heads about to explode, even thinking about it

 

They would be arrested, the swastika is a forbidden symbol in Germany and they mean it. I saw a young man hauled out of a beer garden by two police officers and frog marched to a police car for wearing a Tee shirt with a picture of Hitler and the text, Hitlers tour of Europe 1939-45

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Those italian boys were almost crying on the video i saw on Stickboy's website. They waied a few times and were scared to death. They will never forget this holiday i think.

 

But vandalism shouldn't be free of punishment, they should pay for the damage they did.

 

  Yeah, I think that a clip around the ear and a kick up the arse and repairing the damage is all that is required for a punishment .

[Prbkk]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

They would be arrested, the swastika is a forbidden symbol in Germany and they mean it. I saw a young man hauled out of a beer garden by two police officers and frog marched to a police car for wearing a Tee shirt with a picture of Hitler and the text, Hitlers tour of Europe 1939-45

 

There is a big difference between what happens in Germany ( a legitimate need to control symbols of the past , lest they be used by those intent on igniting the same hatreds of the past) and the jingoistic clap-trap about respect for the flag seen in this story.

[TGIR]

Absolutely amazing the things that bring out twelve+ pages of comments!

[soalbundy]

Just now, Prbkk said:

 

There is a big difference between what happens in Germany ( a legitimate need to control symbols of the past , lest they be used by those intent on igniting the same hatreds of the past) and the jingoistic clap-trap about respect for the flag seen in this story.

I agree

[Yann55]

With incidents like this, the already developing xenophobia of most Thais, their growing tendency to disrespect foreigners and their urge to blame 'us' for everything that goes wrong here will grow by a few notches, and as far as I'm concerned, that's reason enough to feel very angry with those two idiots, never mind what country they come from.

 

Last time I flew back to Thailand from Europe, two guys in their early 20s were sitting next to me, and they started getting drunk as soon as they could. Sadly the stewardess thought they were OK guys because they were good looking, rather well dressed and smiling, so she didn't realize what was going to happen. She served them whiskies, and then beers, until they got quite smashed. And sure enough, about 5 hours into the flight, the one sitting right next to me spilled his beer on my seat while I was taking a walk. I didn't throw a tantrum or anything, and I certainly wasn't surprised. I just asked to be changed to another seat, which proved quite difficult because the A 380 was very full.

 

Hopefully this stewardess will think twice before she serves that much alcohol to young idiots like those 2, even if they do look nice, handsome and friendly. And for sure, her stereotyped  ideas about white guys went down a few notches that day. It makes me angry, because her only mistake was that she was so nice, trying to be friendly, and obviously a fair dose of inexperience.

 

This country did attract 'quality tourists', but that was a long time ago. Now, let's face it, most of the tourists, never mind where they're from, are a pretty low standard, uneducated and boorish bunch, here to party, booze and screw around. No matter what the local authorities say, that's been the trend for the past 30 years at least, and it just keeps getting worse. To turn this trend 180 degrees would be like trying to push back an angry elephant with a toothpick.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Yann55

[Mangostin]

2 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

The young Italians were just being drunken fools.  I think most of us have done such stupid things when we were younger.  

Agree, just a small fine should be more than enough, given what they have been through, however, i bet 1000 to 1 that they consider themselves to be italian on the same way as a palestinian would see himself as an israeli's national, trust me, this is a very different breed, in fact, i seriously doubt they will be talking to each other in italian language, chances are they can't even speak the lingo, honestly   

[aussienam]

4 minutes ago, sd44 said:

Countries seem to get so upset regarding a piece of coloured cloth.

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Yeah, but it is the idea behind why they damage/destroy/remove etc. the coloured cloth.  Of course it is just physically cotton material probably and you could also say that about other objects - like a statue made of stone depicting a leader, etc.  But it is not the tangible piece of cloth that is really the issue.  It is the meaning - It reflects disrespect, vandalism, arrogance, disdain, bad character, potential propensity for acts of violence or terror against Thai people.  

 

These people most likely did not see the flags as just pieces of cloth to rip down but had deep seated hatred for whatever reason against Thais.

 

It may be against the establishment, against some Thai people they had a run in, hatred of Thailand, the police, the bureaucracy, etc.  Could be so many reasons.

 

Their gesture was most likely symbolic to them as a way of venting.  Most flags are trashed by people as a symbolic hatred to the whole or part of the country's makeup. Flags represent a nationalistic and patriotic ideology and this is why a flag is so important to respect - unless you are at war with what that flag represents - whether it be a country or an ideology like ISIS.  

 

So face value thinking is not the way to look at it IMO. 

[soalbundy]

2 minutes ago, Yann55 said:

With incidents like this, the already developing xenophobia of most Thais, their growing tendency to disrespect foreigners and their urge to blame 'us' for everything that goes wrong here will grow by a few notches, and as far as I'm concerned, that's reason enough to feel very angry with those two idiots, never mind what country they come from.

 

Last time I flew back to Thailand from Europe, two guys in their early 20s were sitting next to me, and they started getting drunk as soon as they could. Sadly the stewardess thought they were OK guys because they were good looking, rather well dressed and smiling, so she didn't realize what was going to happen. So she served them whiskies, and then beers, until they got quite smashed. And sure enough, about 5 hours into the flight, the one sitting right next to me spilled his beer on my seat while I was taking a walk. I didn't throw a tantrum or anything, and I certainly wasn't surprised. I just asked to be changed to another seat, which proved quite difficult because the A 380 was very full.

 

Hopefully this stewardess will think twice before she serves that much alcohol to young idiots like those 2, even if they do look nice, handsome and friendly. And for sure, her stereotyped  ideas about white guys went down a few notches that day.

 

This country did attract 'quality tourists', but that was a long time ago. Now, let's face it, most of the tourists, never mind where they're from, are a pretty low standard, uneducated and boorish bunch, here to party, booze and screw around. No matter what the local authorities say, that's been the trend for the past 30 years at least, and it just keeps getting worse. To turn this trend 180 degrees would be like trying to push back an angry elephant with a toothpick.

I know what you mean, once while drunk i wanted to vomit but i couldn't find an open sports car so i just had to control myself.

[Mangostin]

4 minutes ago, TGIR said:

Absolutely amazing the things that bring out twelve+ pages of comments!

They could have possibly got publicly lynched on the spot if caught, maybe you are familiar with the local's sentiment as much as they were, dear

[silent]

5 hours ago, choff56 said:

Does anybody know where I can buy a pair of Thai flag shorts like ones I see Thai people wearing all the time depicting the flags of the United States and the United Kingdom?

What about the ones from that democratic republic wearing the star spangled banner and from England the Union Jack, or somebody who probably lives with them. Just curious.

[Jiggo]

Please don't disrespect there flag (Italian) ...you know The White Cross on a White Background

[GAZZPA]

6 hours ago, transam said:

You obviously haven't met Trans yet............But I accept you posted "most", though I do not agree with that...

 

I have a farang posting on forums here that I am a "draft dodger" (hope you know what that means)....Totally untrue and I hope the law will take care of that false statement here...Yes, he is one of your "no brain farangs"..

Thats true, but it is not often enforced. Criminal damage could certainly be on the cards anywhere, still not a trivial matter and can land you in trouble anywhere.

 

Stupid thing for these idiots to do though. A fine and visa ban is appropriate though, sending them to jail is going too far in my opinion.

[marquis22]

Utter no-hopers, hope they caught and banished from Thailand forever.

If Thais see that then it gives them more reason to 'hate' farang. Us who live here!!

 

[johnhw]

6 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

YOU are correct about how to act in a foreign country.

 

However, if you were in my home country you could spit,  stomp on,  and burn my countries flag in public and you would have the protection of the law for your actions.

 

It's called freedom of expression/speech.

 

If a country does not allow for  that then  anyone breaking the law in a foreign country  should realize the potential  gravity of his actions.

My country it's also called freedom of speech, but most decent adults as well would still call it the worst kind of disrespectful, hateful, childish gross ignorance.

Perhaps no serious criminal offense here--no right to judge a foreign country--but darned if there shouldn't be a  provision that these two no-class sleezers can be publically, humilitatingly--if not painfully-- spanked.

[TerrylSky]

<deleted> like is what gives all farangs a bad name. What a bunch of idiots.

[Essaybloke]

As absolutely ridiculous as I think this is (disrespecting a flag- talk about a victimless crime!), you'd have to be completely senseless, disrespectful to your hosts and plain (rhymes with fire-trucking) stupid to do that in a foreign country. And Thailand of all places!

Jail time? Nah.

Make 'em pay for new flags and kick them out of the country!