Repudiation Of Paternity

[J1li1White]

Hello all, 

 

I'm new on this forum, I'm looking for answers as I'm fully lost and scared 

 

Can I be forced by a Thai Girl or via the Court to make a DNA test ?

My story is incredible, I can't breath since I've discovered what was happening

 

My ex and I broke up on Beginning of April 2016, today she came to me  and let me know that she has on last january gave birth to one baby. She claims it's my son. I've never heard about her since last april, we had broke up not peacefully, she used to fight me everyday and talk very bad to me more often and often, it's wasn't possible anymore, we were unable to stay together... which has made our relationship end without any further communication between me and her . Now she claims it's my baby, and that she has been to police station to report the fact that I don't want legitimate him. She want to force me to make DNA test. Is it possible ?

 

I'm lost, I don't know what can happen in the future . More details : I'm from France, we were not married.

Please anyone can inform me on the matter ?

 

Thks for your help and brgds

Edited February 10, 2017 by J1li1White

[sanemax]

As you were not married. The Mother has sole responsibility for the Child.

Under Thai law, the Child is nothing to do with you, you were just the mothers boyfriend when she had a baby

[J1li1White]

Dear Sanemax,

 

First many thks for your quick reply

 

Do you confirm that police can't receive her complain and can't escalade it to a court ?

 

As I'm now working in BKK ... I'm pretty anxious

 

[dbrenn]

She can take you to court and the court may order that the child be legitimised with you as its father. In such a case, the court may also order you to contribute to supporting the child until it reaches 20 years of age. 

 

Should have used a condom mate. 

 

http://www.siam-legal.com/legal_services/Child-Support-in-Thailand.php

 

[catman20]

i had a similar case a few years back she want 2 million baht off me to have an abortion i went to a lawyer and he said that if she was over age and not some school girl your OK. my lady at that time was 30 he said ignore her altogether email phone calls sms. i did what he told me 6 months ago i get an email with a picture of a 3 years old half Thai half farang girl.

[Suradit69]

8 hours ago, J1li1White said:

My story is incredible, I can't breath since I've discovered what was happening

 

Not exactly "incredible." You do understand how the baby-producing procedure works, right?

[dotpoom]

It should be her that feels lost and scared..... not you. Why do you not want to take the DNA test? You obviously had unprotected sex with her (or you would have mentioned otherwise) and were aware of the possibilities that you could impregnate her. If you are the Father of her child do you not feel any responsibility? You're attitude seems to be...." I don't care a shi-- about her or her (possibly your) baby as long as I'm OK".....that is the only reason why you would not want to find out either way.

Edited February 11, 2017 by dotpoom

[loong]

Would the police be interested?

It would surely be a civil, not criminal matter. They can't arrest you for anything.

I don't know how the courts work here, but I imagine that the court procedure would have to be started by her, not the police.

[FritsSikkink]

You have sex without a condom and are surprised there could be a baby?

Check if baby is yours, why should you be forced. If it isn't end of story, if it is, man up and take care of it. 

[catman20]

4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

You have sex without a condom and are surprised there could be a baby?

Check if baby is yours, why should you be forced. If it isn't end of story, if it is, man up and take care of it. 

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Edited February 11, 2017 by catman20

[brewsterbudgen]

It would be pretty irresponsible to walk away.  If you are the father a DNA test should prove it (although you'll need to check when this can be carried out), and you will have the blessing (if you look at it that way!) of a child.

[catman20]

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

It would be pretty irresponsible to walk away.  If you are the father a DNA test should prove it (although you'll need to check when this can be carried out), and you will have the blessing (if you look at it that way!) of a child.

or be responsible and mess the rest of your life up. so many of these girls try to trap a man for there own means, if it was a one night stand move on if its a loving relationship try to work it out. sorry lads i know my comment here wont sit well with many.

[scorecard]

10 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

You have sex without a condom and are surprised there could be a baby?

Check if baby is yours, why should you be forced. If it isn't end of story, if it is, man up and take care of it. 

 

The OP doesn't mention that it's totally impossible for him to be the father, but let's not get too hung up on that, and maybe the OP might like to clarify this point.

 

However if it's possible that you are the father, then surely you would want to know so that you can provide for the child you fathered.

Edited February 11, 2017 by scorecard

[mesquite]

You should voluntarily take the DNA test.  If it shows the baby is not yours, she has no claim.  If it shows the baby is yours, you should pay child support as that is your responsibility.

[blackcab]

Exactly what are worried about? If you are the father the very worst thing that can happen is she takes you to Court and the Court makes you pay.

 

It's normally just a few thousand baht a month. Obviously the Court can only make you pay if you have assets or a job with a work permit.

[a1falang]

Usually it's the mother who's reluctant to have a DNA test. I would take the lead and get one yourself for peace of mind.  Go to a reliable DNA service. Just Google "Thailand dna service". 

[brewsterbudgen]

or be responsible and mess the rest of your life up. so many of these girls try to trap a man for there own means, if it was a one night stand move on if its a loving relationship try to work it out. sorry lads i know my comment here wont sit well with many.

Sure. If it was a one night stand, I would agree. But in this case the OP was in a relationship with the girl.

[Cranky]

Get a DNA test, if it's yours take ownership, cough up and give the kid a chance in life.  If not walk away.  Nothing complicated here.

[scorecard]

27 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Sure. If it was a one night stand, I would agree. But in this case the OP was in a relationship with the girl.

 

 

Not good advice at all. The blanket assumption that all girls trap guys is not correct and blatantly unfair.

 

One night stand is immaterial, if he's the father he is responsible.  

[scorecard]

 On a different point, OP you say the relationship was fraught with problems.

 

You should learn that any sign of problems need to be analysed very quickly with at least one overriding question: 'Is it going to change' and give yourself an honest answer.

 

If t's obvious nothing is going to change then get out - on the spot.

 

Getting out can also have problems but necessary, no gain without pain.

[ubonjoe]

Moved to here which is the correct forum for this topic.

[Beats56]

If the baby is yours. ..pay up and do the right thing.

[4MyEgo]

2 hours ago, catman20 said:

i had a similar case a few years back she want 2 million baht off me to have an abortion i went to a lawyer and he said that if she was over age and not some school girl your OK. my lady at that time was 30 he said ignore her altogether email phone calls sms. i did what he told me 6 months ago i get an email with a picture of a 3 years old half Thai half farang girl.

I read in an Ozzie newspaper years ago that a guy was paying child support for like over a decade for a child that was suppose to be his, only later to find out that it wasn't, DNA test I am told are the way to confirmation, how else would you know the kid is yours ? 

[Don Mega]

You broke up beginning of April, when was the last time you had sex with her ?

[mstevens]

I am no lawyer but I am sure that I read somewhere that a female in a situation like this can petition the court to compel a man to submit to a DNA test.

 

Surely you would WANT to get a DNA test done so you know whether the child is yours or not.  If the timing adds up and you had unprotected sex with her then I feel you should consent to the DNA test.

 

You're living and working in Bangkok and you're just going to ignore her?  Small problems that aren't dealt with can become big problems.  I suggest you you submit to the DNA test and deal with the situation, depending on the results of the DNA test.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, catman20 said:

or be responsible and mess the rest of your life up. so many of these girls try to trap a man for there own means, if it was a one night stand move on if its a loving relationship try to work it out. sorry lads i know my comment here wont sit well with many.

You don't need to stay with the mother to take care of your kid. Taking care of your child is messing up your life? What is your life, hookers and booze?

[frog555]

We can yell "responsabilities", but here "responsabilities" means money.

But then, will OP get the rights as a father about the kid ?

Responsabilities and rights should go together.

It seems that the mother doesn't give any importance to the fatherhood, as she hadn't let him know she was pregnant.

Edited February 11, 2017 by frog555

[SteveB2]

It's easy to carry out the buccal swab (mouth swipe) sample for a DNA test yourself and send it off for analysis by mail order, however, this type of ad-hoc 'do it yourself' test is not accepted by a Thai court.

 

However, it will give you and the new mum a heads up of where you both stand with a high level of reliability. Faced with this evidence, if it is proven that you are in the clear, then the new mum will likely give up and move on to finding out who the real dad is. I've done this before, and it worked like a charm. 

 

On the other hand, if the new mom wants to persist and drag you through the courts, then your ad-hoc 'do it yourself DNA test' will not be considered reliable.  ...

 

For evidence admissible in a Thai court, the entire suspected family unit is sent to the Police (Forensic) Hospital in Bangkok for testing(2nd floor for Photograph, DNA, and Fingerprint) whereupon official police photo certificates and DNA testing result certificates are produced complete with 'Garuda' police stamps and police signatures announcing the results. The testing process cost about THB12, 000 (receipted) plus a trip to Bangers for you, the mum and the mystery child. All present must bring with you all the normal original ID documents, birth certificates, etc. Photographs will be made by the police during testing.

 

DNA testing results take about 1-2 weeks to become available, and can be either collected or sent through the post by EMS.

 

Hope this info helps 

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, mesquite said:

You should voluntarily take the DNA test.  If it shows the baby is not yours, she has no claim.  If it shows the baby is yours, you should pay child support as that is your responsibility.

Careful not be fleeced in the process, a reasonable amount to feed, cloth, educate the child till the child is 18, that is if it is actual fact yours.

 

Wouldn't get involve with the mother if the child is confirmed to be yours, she sounds like the bitch from hell, and I would suggest its not your child, after the child "gets" the DNA test done, you Forest Gump her, and for F sake, get out in future before you release your sack of tadpoles, that or put on that thing called a condom, as uncomfortable as it is, you will at least be able to breath afterwards, but do watch out for Herpie as he is hard to see....555

 

Good Luck, and do give us lads a future updated post as we will all be holding our breaths. 

[TheFishman1]

Either Man up or run away saying that I take the DNA test if it is yours here child support ordered by court is not expensive TIT