webfact Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Ex-minister denies role in THAI, Rolls-Royce scandal By The Nation Vichet Kasemthongsri, deputy transport minister of the Thaksin government in 2003 NACC chief insists senior Thaksin administration official linked to bribery allegations, among 26 people of interest BANGKOK: -- A FORMER deputy transport minister in the Thaksin Shinawatra administration has denied playing a role in the bribery scandal involving Thai Airways International (THAI) and Rolls- Royce Plc of the UK as Thailand's National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) this week kicks off its plan to question two former ministers and 24 others in connection with the controversial case. Vichet Kasemthongsri, deputy transport minister of the Thaksin government in 2003, said he was surprised to be named as one of the 26 persons of interest who will be invited by the NACC for questioning in connection with the bribery scandal which took place in 2004 and 2005. During that period, Vichet said he had not been assigned to supervise THAI, a state enterprise under the Transport Ministry, so he had not played a role in the alleged wrongdoing. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30308803 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-03-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Of course! Everybody is saying, "It wasn´t me!", before they are handed evidence that are so extensive so they have to make a wai, say sorry and plead guilty. After that everything goes quick. 1 month in jail, and a fine of 3000 Bath! Next Case! Who would have thought that an upstanding and totally innocent fine person like Taksin, would have been having, and associating, with possible criminals and corrupted people like this in his government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatawonderfulday Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 guilty by association. Defamation law suit should follow soon if he is telling the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 What do they expect from him?? Yes i was involved, how do you think i paid for 3 mansions, 3 Mercedes, 3 mai nois. Of course he will deny it, problem now is to follow the money trail. Before this case started, how much money did he have, and after how much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 In Thailand, when you're accused, do the sergeant Schultz routine, "I know nothing, I see nothing, and it's not me, it's him..." from what I have witnessed over the years, it seems to work just fine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 During that period, Vichet said he had not been assigned to supervise THAI, a state enterprise under the Transport Ministry, so he had not played a role in the alleged wrongdoing. So, if he had been assigned to supervise THAI he would have been up to his elbows in illicit gains? His sole stated reason for not being involved is that it wasn't his job, not his moral upbringing or his religion or obviously not his scruples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Would anyone expect anything other than a denial statement? 1 hour ago, whatawonderfulday said: guilty by association. Defamation law suit should follow soon if he is telling the truth He doesn't even need to be telling the truth under the Thai defamation laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Guilty until proven innocent, which only seems to apply to red-shirts. Must be a coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 25 more denials to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 "All 26 persons of interests would be invited to clarify their position before the NACC subcommittee." They are going to be up to their neck in a brown smelly substance associated with bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 hours ago, ramrod711 said: During that period, Vichet said he had not been assigned to supervise THAI, a state enterprise under the Transport Ministry, so he had not played a role in the alleged wrongdoing. So, if he had been assigned to supervise THAI he would have been up to his elbows in illicit gains? His sole stated reason for not being involved is that it wasn't his job, not his moral upbringing or his religion or obviously not his scruples. And in any case, even if he wasn't assigned to anything Thai Inter, still a good chance to get a share of the big or any spoils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I am struggling to think of one instance of a Thai admitting any wrongdoing unless forced to do so. It is the national pasttime to pass the blame and pretend to be squeaky clean when guilty as he'll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Good to see Corruption is alive and well Where i come from they call it "pigs with snouts in the trough" Lots of pigs here i feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Of course he denied playing "a role". That's beneath him and his puppet master. He was the chief perpetrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 4 hours ago, ramrod711 said: During that period, Vichet said he had not been assigned to supervise THAI, a state enterprise under the Transport Ministry, so he had not played a role in the alleged wrongdoing. So, if he had been assigned to supervise THAI he would have been up to his elbows in illicit gains? His sole stated reason for not being involved is that it wasn't his job, not his moral upbringing or his religion or obviously not his scruples. So if someone accused you of being involved in a massive fraud, which happened in a procurement for an organization that was nothing to do with you at the time rather than state the simple fact that you weren't involved. weren't connected or anything to do with that organization you'd going into a diatribe about your personal morals, ethics and religion? Glad you'll never be my attorney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 hours ago, scorecard said: And in any case, even if he wasn't assigned to anything Thai Inter, still a good chance to get a share of the big or any spoils. J'accuse! Must be guilty because someone accused him, and he was a member of both a Thaksin and a Yingluck government. Frightening. The "no smoke without fire" don't bother with any evidence, guilty until proven innocent attitudes that now prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just a 'mis-undertanding'. Move along, nothing to see here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 7 hours ago, whatawonderfulday said: guilty by association. Defamation law suit should follow soon if he is telling the truth The junta is on a witch hunt. This gives them the opportunity to round up more of the Thaksin regime. Its a gift from the Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Get Real said: Of course! Everybody is saying, "It wasn´t me!", before they are handed evidence that are so extensive so they have to make a wai, say sorry and plead guilty. After that everything goes quick. 1 month in jail, and a fine of 3000 Bath! Next Case! Who would have thought that an upstanding and totally innocent fine person like Taksin, would have been having, and associating, with possible criminals and corrupted people like this in his government. All the thai investigators have to do is either wait until The UK has their trail over the bribery during the sales or get the names of all persons involved in the transactions via "The freedom of information Act" that The UK government has in place.Either way I am sure that since it was a very large amount of money even the "Big Boys" involved here was known by The Roles Royce people as they would not have trusted their subordinates to collect for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, sanukjim said: All the thai investigators have to do is either wait until The UK has their trail over the bribery during the sales or get the names of all persons involved in the transactions via "The freedom of information Act" that The UK government has in place.Either way I am sure that since it was a very large amount of money even the "Big Boys" involved here was known by The Roles Royce people as they would not have trusted their subordinates to collect for them. Such information can always disappear on it´s way to Thailand. Actually every time they try to send it, and disregarding the way they choose to send it. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manhood Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 People working for the government as ministers or whatever should not denie anything as they are always involved as nothing is running without involvement of the Government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Baerboxer said: So if someone accused you of being involved in a massive fraud, which happened in a procurement for an organization that was nothing to do with you at the time rather than state the simple fact that you weren't involved. weren't connected or anything to do with that organization you'd going into a diatribe about your personal morals, ethics and religion? Glad you'll never be my attorney. You are absolutely correct, I was wrong. In this case the more believable excuse would, of course, be "I didn't steal anything because I never had the opportunity". That was the basically the alibi that he presented and you were absolutely correct in pointing out that it sounds more likely than a principled response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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