stander Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Was yesterday's targeting in the UK of a political target a change in Islamic terror or just a fluke. Will politicians take the risk more seriously if they are the target and not the public at large, which in the past they have been willing to sacrifice on the alter of political correctness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true word Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The way I see it to stop Islamic terrorism in the west, western "civilized" countries should stop interfering in Islamic affairs. Leave them deal with their problems. How come we don't see Islamic terrorism in Japan, China, Brazil ETC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm with this guy Tommy Robinson. Spot on mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, true word said: The way I see it to stop Islamic terrorism in the west, western "civilized" countries should stop interfering in Islamic affairs. Leave them deal with their problems. How come we don't see Islamic terrorism in Japan, China, Brazil ETC. Before or after their deportation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 To the haters I say; There are Muslim officers serving in the Metropolitan Police. There are Muslim paramedics and drivers serving in the London Ambulance Service. There are Muslim doctors and nurses working in the NHS, including all the hospitals where the injured were taken. How many of them were involved in protecting the public and treating the injured yesterday? No way of knowing, of course; but it would have been some. It is these people who are representative of the British Muslim population; not the attacker and his cohorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said: Say that to the Millions who died in the pacific region during WW2. We are talking about today not 70 odd years ago. Just wait till the next Islamic atrocity comes, and it will, and we will see who is right, I will bet it is Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I just can't get enough of this guy. You tell um Tommy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said: Really ! Are you saying Japan doesn't have terrorists , did you forget the Tokyo subway incident ? 1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said: Really ! Are you saying Japan doesn't have terrorists , did you forget the Tokyo subway incident ? The subway incident 12 lifes were lost, can you name any terrorist attacks by muslims, of course you can't, they have very limited immigration to muslims. Maybe the west could take a leaf out of their policies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stander Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Many British mosques spend more time and money advocating on behalf of convicted terrorists than for their victims. They publicly shame any Muslim who cooperates with police to stop or solve terrorist crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddavidovsky Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The PM in the Commons is calling this 'an attack on democracy' - which means she has absolutely no understanding of what this is all about and therefore has no idea how to tackle it. Lamentable. How many times do I need to say it? This is all about Muslim pride and nothing else. Trace that issue back to its root and there you will find the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Baerboxer said: One or two who have been arrested in the past were converts, But most are first, second, third, fourth generation offspring from immigrants who were welcomed in the 60's and 70's by left wing governments. Their communities have increased in influence as numbers arriving and the birthrate increased. Now we have our own British Muslims who see the threat of civil violence on the pretense of religion as a good way to avoid punishments when they break laws and see non Muslims as infidels and therefore acceptable to do anything to. Not all are like this, but a significant and growing minority are. If you lived and grew up in an area over that timespan where Muslims settled you will know what I mean. Funnily enough, never had similar issues with Hindus or most other religions. Just Muslims and predominately those from Pakistan. A lot of truth in this , certainly more accurate than some of the bigoted rubbish posted by others. The way forward is to come down hard on the minority you identify , also on those who propogate blanket race or identity hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Many British mosques spend more time and money advocating on behalf of convicted terrorists than for their victims. They publicly shame any Muslim who cooperates with police to stop or solve terrorist crimes Another post from you based on nothing but your anti Muslim stance.sent using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, thai3 said: After the London bus bombs Blair promised to close down radical Mosques (most) and to deport hate preachers. Twelve years later we are still waiting........... 5 minutes ago, stander said: Many British mosques spend more time and money advocating on behalf of convicted terrorists than for their victims. They publicly shame any Muslim who cooperates with police to stop or solve terrorist crimes Watch the moment ordinary Muslims shut down ‘jihadis’ trying to spread radical message outside mosques Quote Across the capital, it is often ordinary Muslims in the street who become the first to contest their views. Mosque elders confronting jihadi-sympathisers at a protest outside Southall Mosque Facebook Outside the Southall Mosque, the mosque’s elders are seen denouncing the group’s actions - tearing Isis flags and pro-Jihadist banners from their picket lines. The (Channel 4) documentary reveals the group have become so disliked among the Muslim community they now avoid preaching at mosques. Revealed: how Scotland's Muslims are fighting the rise of radical Islam at home Mosque wars; How radical jihadis were driven out of Britain's 'terrorist' mosque Quote On a winter's day in February 2005 two-dozen young men gathered in a Muslim community centre in Finsbury Park, just a few metres from the doors of Britain's most infamous radical mosque. They gathered, apprehensive but excited, for one reason – to take it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Shots fired. Footage of the terror attack on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, possum1931 said: We are talking about today not 70 odd years ago. Just wait till the next Islamic atrocity comes, and it will, and we will see who is right, I will bet it is Japan. You are correct of course that in the last 20 years Islamic terrorism has become a huge problem , but extreme Nationalism is not the answer. What I cant stomach is the huge hypocrisy displayed by so many. Be honest , did you make a fuss about the wholesale rape and murder of tens of thousands of Muslims by Christian Serbs and Croats during the Bosnian genocide not so long ago ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, joecoolfrog said: You are correct of course that in the last 20 years Islamic terrorism has become a huge problem , but extreme Nationalism is not the answer. What I cant stomach is the huge hypocrisy displayed by so many. Be honest , did you make a fuss about the wholesale rape and murder of tens of thousands of Muslims by Christian Serbs and Croats during the Bosnian genocide not so long ago ? Did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, rijb said: Did you? 1 minute ago, rijb said: Did you? Did I blame every Christian worldwide for the actions of the deranged few ! No of course not , why would I , only an ignorant bigot would contemplate such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, stevenl said: Another post from you based on nothing but your anti Muslim stance. sent using Tapatalk What about your anti infidel stance? Keep on reading Koran and try to change the world with more terror attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stander Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Poland's prime minister drew a link on Thursday between an attack in London targeting the British parliament and the European Union's migrant policy, saying the assault vindicated Warsaw's refusal to take in refugees. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-europe-migrants-poland-idUKKBN16U0TC utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58d3b2e604d301480ebb03ae&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said: I'm with this guy Tommy Robinson. Spot on mate! Tommy Robinson, born Stephen Yaxley, aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris. A man with several criminal convictions, one of which was for assaulting an off duty police officer who intervened to stop him from beating up his then girlfriend! His parents were both Irish immigrants; maybe they and him should have been deported during the IRA bombing campaign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Warning graphic footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 What about your anti infidel stance? Keep on reading Koran and try to change the world with more terror attacks. Sure mate, nothing serious to say, so make up claims, just like the poster you're defending.sent using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Grouse said: Correct, nobody wants a war. Just be less welcoming than previously. What do you suggest? Ban all religion worldwide ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, bander said: If the muslim parents who is immigrants cannot control their children, send them back to their muslim countries. It's the parents duty to raise their children to be good citizen's and not terrorists. And ban Islam religion in all democratic countries. Well, there is a slight problem with the US. It is called the First Amendment.. First Amendment - Religion and Expression. ... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. And if you wish to include the UK, then they should ban Catholicism because of the IRA, and Church of England because of the Jo Cox assassination and Judaism because of the Stern Gang. Perhaps a campaign to ban all religions and burn down all churches would be more to your way of thinking. Banning things only ever seems to make the problem worse. History tells you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said: You are correct of course that in the last 20 years Islamic terrorism has become a huge problem , but extreme Nationalism is not the answer. What I cant stomach is the huge hypocrisy displayed by so many. Be honest , did you make a fuss about the wholesale rape and murder of tens of thousands of Muslims by Christian Serbs and Croats during the Bosnian genocide not so long ago ? 16 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said: Did I blame every Christian worldwide for the actions of the deranged few ! No of course not , why would I , only an ignorant bigot would contemplate such a thing. Changing your tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, stander said: Poland's prime minister drew a link on Thursday between an attack in London targeting the British parliament and the European Union's migrant policy, saying the assault vindicated Warsaw's refusal to take in refugees. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-europe-migrants-poland-idUKKBN16U0TC utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58d3b2e604d301480ebb03ae&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter It seems that the Polish Prime Minster is as ignorant of the situation over the UK and the EU regarding migrants as you are! The refugees/economic migrants in the EU cannot easily get into the UK because the UK is not part of the Schengen area. All indications so far are that yesterday's attacker was born in the UK to immigrant parents who came to the UK decades ago. Nothing to do with the current migrant crisis in the EU at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen087 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It appears the total number of fatalities has been reduced by one to four... Let's hope it stays that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 This is being reported by all the major news media:- EUROPE 'Islamic State' claims responsibility for London attack The militant "Islamic State" has claimed that the attacker behind the rampage outside Britain's parliament was one of its "soldiers." Four people were killed - including the assailant - and another 29 are in hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, rijb said: Changing your tune? Nope , admirably consistent , show me where I wasn't or crawl back under your stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stander Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 People are out of their minds if they think they can ignore the unrelenting push for domination by Islamists. I believe that in the war against Islamic fundamentalists not going far enough puts us at much greater risk than going too far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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