little mary sunshine Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm sure they are no where in Thailand.....Hello Dubai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 They applied for bail, but the Central Criminal Court said that, as the offences were serious with heavy penalties, they were a flight risk. Therefore, the bail request has been sent to the Appeal Court. So, in the clink for now, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkiwi Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, joecoolfrog said: I will be impressed if they actually serve the time , I wont hold my breath. Please hold your breath........50 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 50 years??!!....Not even sure if Charles Manson got that term.....well..maybe he did! The PT guys must be quivvering in their flip flops :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 4 hours ago, craigt3365 said: The judges here are actually quite smart. Sadly, also quite corrupt. calling the judges Corrupt is contempt of court. I think you should be very careful. You have no proof. I have had a lot of dealings with the law in this country over the past 50 years and found most of the judges honest.. Can you say the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docshock13 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 They won't do time. The gov't got what it wanted in the conviction. They got to seize the cash. Though one has to wonder how many other bribes they demanded but were not caught for or not indicted for due to lack of evidence. Where there is smoke there is fire. Likely this wasn't the first time. Just the first time they were caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 50 years in jail !!!!!!!!!!!!! for corruption. What you get for murder here ? oh, maybe that depends who you murder and who you are. Crazy country, No sense of proportion about anything !!!!!!!!!! Edited March 29, 2017 by onemorechang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/12/la-film-couple-sentenced-in-thai-bribery-case/ She and her daughter have been indicted in Los Angeles with conspiracy and eight other counts. If convicted, they each face up to 20 years in prison. So Juthamus and her daughter would have been given 20 years each in prison in the US. That's why the hefty sentences today in court. The saddest part of all this is using her daughter as an accomplice to her crime. But greed got the better of Juthamus and now she has not only ended her life but the life of her daughter also. Very sad indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Tinfoil hat brigade busy again I see- must be the rain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 4 hours ago, realenglish1 said: May as well give her a death sentence 50 Years She is 70 Never see the light of day again She'll see it again tomorrow when she is released on bail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said: So Juthamus and her daughter would have been given 20 years each in prison in the US. That's why the hefty sentences today in court. Bingo. Released tomorrow on bail during the appeal which will no doubt go on as long as the sentence is. No extradition to the US while they are involved in the Thai case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 ..like she is going to pay and do time.... hahahahahaha .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 year for taking bribes....49 years for not sharing....sounds reasonable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Very harsh sentences. Somethin' doesn't smell right here. Why don't they name the Americans. Surely those who give and those who take are both culpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 5 hours ago, gdgbb said: Well done, Thai authorities, yet another nail in the-rich-and-connected-are-never-prosecuted-and-jailed-in-Thailand coffin. There will be some angry Thai bashers around today. The bribes were taken in 2005, it has taken several years for the lowest court to give a judgement. Then there is the appeals court and finally the supreme court which could take many more years. They will be out on bail and can abscond like many others have done before and live a comfortable life overseas. I would hold my clapping for until they are both actually inside a proper prison and been there for 2 years at least without falling seriously ill in a few days and shifted to a well furnished hospital room, like the ex Mayor of Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Kasset Tak said: Woho... they will probably not see the outside again, even if they would get out after half the time then they would be 95 and 65... maybe the daughter will make it... Assuming they actually go to jail in the first place. There is a very good chance they will simply fade away or flee the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said: And immediately released on bail pending appeal, no doubt! In a way that is OK, as long as the money is confiscated. He is too old to do any harm anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 56 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Very harsh sentences. Somethin' doesn't smell right here. Why don't they name the Americans. Surely those who give and those who take are both culpable. The Americans were named, tried, found guilty and sentenced in a US Court a number of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, edwinchester said: The Americans were named, tried, found guilty and sentenced in a US Court a number of years ago. OK. Do you know how long they got? Still think these sentences are huge. Still think something smelly with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 After the 62 million is confisticated will they give it back to the rightfull owners of the filmfestival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 4 hours ago, dageurreotype said: 7 hours ago, craigt3365 said: Pretty harsh considering all the BS here that never gets acted upon. Like the Red Bull heir. Ya think? Fair go dageurreotype. It's a reasonable comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 35 minutes ago, dinsdale said: OK. Do you know how long they got? Still think these sentences are huge. Still think something smelly with this one. Six months and a hefty fine according to this link. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/two-hollywood-producers-cant-escape-583974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, edwinchester said: Six months and a hefty fine according to this link. 6 months maybe a bit light for corrupting Gov. officials of a foreign country but 50 yrs and 44 yrs. Something still smells here. Sure corruption is bad but it's endemic here. Top to bottom. A way of life really that most Thais hate but accept that, that's the way it is. Someone wants these two out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 hours ago, upena said: Why does the Thai Government think they are entitled to the 62 million baht? Proceeds of crime - in certain western countries, you don't even need to be convicted, just suspected, and they can seize your assets. I remember John Oliver doing a spot on his show a couple of years ago about asset forfeiture in the States. Thai cops would have a field day if they could do what the American cops get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 5 hours ago, saakura said: The bribes were taken in 2005, it has taken several years for the lowest court to give a judgement. Then there is the appeals court and finally the supreme court which could take many more years. They will be out on bail and can abscond like many others have done before and live a comfortable life overseas. I would hold my clapping for until they are both actually inside a proper prison and been there for 2 years at least without falling seriously ill in a few days and shifted to a well furnished hospital room, like the ex Mayor of Pattaya. Doesn't matter how long the trial took, they still got 94 years between them and lost B62,000,000. So far they're not out on bail, although that could happen if the court allows it, neither have they absconded to live overseas. Congratulations on being so negative, just as you would have been if they have been found not guilty. Thailand can't win with some people, can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 9 hours ago, tubby johnson said: They'll appeal, the courts save face by going through the motions of prosecuting them, the case drags on for a decade and expires. They're too 'hiso' and special to ever see the inside of a jail cell. If they didn't get bail to appeal after the guilty verdict they'll be admiring jail decor right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 7 hours ago, docshock13 said: They won't do time. Did they get bail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 7 hours ago, onemorechang said: 50 years in jail !!!!!!!!!!!!! for corruption. What you get for murder here ? oh, maybe that depends who you murder and who you are. Crazy country, No sense of proportion about anything !!!!!!!!!! 11 charges of corruption. Each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 hours ago, dinsdale said: Very harsh sentences. Somethin' doesn't smell right here. Why don't they name the Americans. Surely those who give and those who take are both culpable. They were jailed also in the US some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, fruitman said: After the 62 million is confisticated will they give it back to the rightfull owners of the filmfestival? Who are the "rightful owners"? Do you mean the corrupt, guilty and jailed American couple who paid the bribe? No one gets their bribe returned if the receiver is caught! By the way, the owners of the film festival were the Thai government, I believe, as they, through TAT, were the ones awarding the contract. Edited March 29, 2017 by gdgbb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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