Erdogan says Turks in Europe should defy 'grandchildren of Nazism'

[webfact]

Erdogan says Turks in Europe should defy 'grandchildren of Nazism'

REUTERS

 

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan addresses his supporters during a rally for the upcoming referendum in the Black Sea city of Rize, Turkey, April 3, 2017. REUTERS/Umit Bektas

 

ANKARA (Reuters) - President Tayyip Erdogan on Monday called on Turkish voters in Europe to defy the "grandchildren of Nazism" and back a referendum this month on changing the constitution, comments likely to cause further ire in Europe.

 

Erdogan has repeatedly lashed out at European countries, including Germany and the Netherlands, in campaigning for the referendum, accusing them of "Nazi-like" tactics for banning his ministers from speaking to rallies of Turkish voters abroad.

 

Both the Germans and Dutch have been incensed by the comparisons to Nazism and German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said the references must stop.

 

"With this determination, we will never allow three or four European fascists ... from harming this country's honour and pride," Erdogan told a packed crowd of flag-waving supporters in the Black Sea city of Rize, where his family comes from.

 

"I call on my brothers and sisters voting in Europe...give the appropriate answer to those imposing this fascist oppression and the grandchildren of Nazism."

 

Erdogan is counting on the support of expatriates in Europe, including the 1.4 million Turks eligible to vote in Germany, to pass constitutional changes that would give him sweeping presidential powers.

 

But ties with Europe have deteriorated in the run-up to the campaign. Erdogan last month said Turkey would reevaluate its relationship with the bloc, and may even hold a second referendum on whether to continue accession talks.

 

On Monday, he said he could take the issue of whether Turkey should restore the death penalty to referendum if necessary.

 

"The European Union will not like this. But I don't care what Hans, George or Helga say, I care what Hasan, Ahmet, Mehmet, Ayse and Fatma say. I care what God says... If necessary, we will take this issue to another referendum as well," he told the rally.

 

Turkey abandoned capital punishment more than a decade ago as part of its bid to join the European Union, but Erdogan has repeatedly told crowds calling for it following the July 15 failed coup that he would approve its restoration if parliament passed it.

 

Restoring capital punishment would all but end Turkey's bid to join the EU, officials from the bloc have said.

 

(Reporting by Ece Toksabay and Tuvan Gumrukcu; Writing by David Dolan; Editing by Humeyra Pamuk)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-04-04

[canuckamuck]

 He's correct in his criticism of the new fascists, but neglects to recognize that he himself is a power mad dictator.

[Ace of Pop]

He should also warn about the Im Entitled Party As damaging as any Nazis but no Uniform


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[boomerangutang]

Angry recriminating little man in a teacup.   Reminds me of Duterte and Trump.

[ezzra]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Erdogan

This guy can be easily classified and a mega megalomaniac afflicted by the illusions

of grandeurs and madness of absolute power, branding others as Nazis

while completely in denial and ignorance of the Ottoman empire genocide of

the Arminian nation....

[klauskunkel]

a demagogue, threatening to incite 4 million Turks in Germany if he doesn't get his way. 

[Cats4ever]

He is a bit of a turd, in my opinion.

[chilli42]

No point to place nice with this guy, it will make no difference.  Turkiye is off on its own agenda.  The separation will escalate.  Alliance and influence of EU is nearing its end

[billd766]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

This guy can be easily classified and a mega megalomaniac afflicted by the illusions

of grandeurs and madness of absolute power, branding others as Nazis

while completely in denial and ignorance of the Ottoman empire genocide of

the Arminian nation....

 

Not to mention what Turkey is trying to do to the Kurd's.

[jollyhangmon]

1 hour ago, Cats4ever said:

He is a bit of a turd, in my opinion.

... a fairly BIG bit, indeed.

Go 'tend' your goats, Sultan ... 

[Galactus]

4 hours ago, jollyhangmon said:

... a fairly BIG bit, indeed.

Go 'tend' your goats, Sultan ... 

goat tending by muslim guys versus children raping in churches by christian priests? i think church rapes and abuses win!

 

Erdogan is as fascist as his European and US counterparts in my opinion.

hope he got a 'no' from the referendum and go to hell forever! Turkey sure will be a lot better place without him.

and Europeans hypocrites?

better they go hell too!

they talk about freedom of speech and ban some guys from turkey to enter Europe who will do a simple speech. (actually they did good but then you have no chance to speak like you believe or support freedom of speech)

and they say freedom of religion and go bow their heads in front of Pope! so they say Europe is actually a Christian club. This happened recently.

Edited April 4, 2017 by Galactus

[jollyhangmon]

7 minutes ago, Galactus said:

goat tending by muslim guys versus children raping in churches by christian priests? i think church rapes and abuses win!

 

Erdogan is as fascist as his European and US counterparts in my opinion.

hope he got a 'no' from the referendum and go to hell forever! Turkey sure will be a lot better place without him.

and Europeans hypocrites?

better they go hell too!

they talk about freedom of speech and ban some guys from turkey to enter Europe who will do a simple speech. (actually they did good but then you have no chance to speak like you believe or support freedom of speech)

and they say freedom of religion and go bow their heads in front of Pope! so they say Europe is actually a Christian club. This happened recently.

Yeah, well, if you wait for me to defend any so called 'religion' against anything you'll see hell freezing over first.

 

And if sovereign countries like Germany, Netherlands or Austria tell any foreign politician to just get funkin' lost instead of letting them soil their, well, soil with some more hatred stump-speeches then that's up to them only, their good right & perfectly fine - and will hopefully be continued just that way ... 

[Andaman Al]

I would love Merkl to respond with a call for Germans and Europeans working on high level infrastructure projects in Turkey to 

 

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defy the "grandchildren of Nazism" the Ottoman Empire responsible for the Armenian Genocide". That would rattle Erdogans cage more than a little.

Maybe Geert Wilders is the man for such a speech.

 

Just think, if it were not for some Intel people in the USA with a conscience we might have Gen Flynn backing this call from Erdogan now in his capacity as NSA!!  I think the leakers should be given the Congressional Medal of Honour.

Edited April 4, 2017 by Andaman Al

[manarak]

not the first time I post this, but Erdogan needs to be shown his place.

 

 

[Ace of Pop]

The Germans sent em home on mass,after their work shifts were over,and kept em in Compounds, less you chose to forget .They liked the Money though.[emoji542][emoji383]


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[Galactus]

19 hours ago, jollyhangmon said:

Yeah, well, if you wait for me to defend any so called 'religion' against anything you'll see hell freezing over first.

 

And if sovereign countries like Germany, Netherlands or Austria tell any foreign politician to just get funkin' lost instead of letting them soil their, well, soil with some more hatred stump-speeches then that's up to them only, their good right & perfectly fine - and will hopefully be continued just that way ... 

same sovereign countries have no problems when kurds do their hate speech towards turks?

same hatred stump-speeches with your words.

moreover, i support some european leaders for not allowing turkish ministers there but it backfired and made a big issue in turkey and used as a good tool by Erdogan's team! 

it counted as unfairness and many voters now go vote for bigot Erdogan bc of this stupidity especially the ones in Europe!

so hypocrite European leaders did this in a wrong way and this might result on Erdogan to win elections. Better europeans dont put their noses into other countries bc clearly they have no grasp on this!

[sirineou]

"

Erdogan says Turks in Europe should defy 'grandchildren of Nazism

 "

and  support the nazism of Erdogan. 

[jollyhangmon]

6 minutes ago, Galactus said:

same sovereign countries have no problems when kurds do their hate speech towards turks?

same hatred stump-speeches with your words.

moreover, i support some european leaders for not allowing turkish ministers there but it backfired and made a big issue in turkey and used as a good tool by Erdogan's team! 

it counted as unfairness and many voters now go vote for bigot Erdogan bc of this stupidity especially the ones in Europe!

so hypocrite European leaders did this in a wrong way and this might result on Erdogan to win elections. Better europeans dont put their noses into other countries bc clearly they have no grasp on this!

Nothing of that kind (stump-speeches) from Kurds in AT or DE, as usual you're misinformed to say the least.

Furthermore your twisted perception of 'free speech' as well as 'hypocrisy' are legend on here & you can just shove it all.

 

Erdogan - the Turkish Nazi - didn't get and certainly doesn't need any 'help' from EU to funk up his country, again your skewed vision here, idiocy out of season, nothing new again.

 

In your words: some 'people' better don't put their noses into EU politics which they clearly have no grasp on - again.

 

As replies to your hyped-up bs rants are purely waste of time & online-space i'm OUT.  

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, Ace of Pop said:

The Germans sent em home on mass,after their work shifts were over,and kept em in Compounds, less you chose to forget .They liked the Money though.


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I'd heard that previously (a couple of decades ago), but was more recently told by a German friend that this was never the case.

 

Back on topic - look on the bright side, Erdogan's statements make it clear that he's given up on Turkey becoming part of the EU.

[Galactus]

8 hours ago, jollyhangmon said:

Nothing of that kind (stump-speeches) from Kurds in AT or DE, as usual you're misinformed to say the least.

Furthermore your twisted perception of 'free speech' as well as 'hypocrisy' are legend on here & you can just shove it all.

 

Erdogan - the Turkish Nazi - didn't get and certainly doesn't need any 'help' from EU to funk up his country, again your skewed vision here, idiocy out of season, nothing new again.

 

In your words: some 'people' better don't put their noses into EU politics which they clearly have no grasp on - again.

 

As replies to your hyped-up bs rants are purely waste of time & online-space i'm OUT.  

 

you are out when you have nothing to say apart from some nonsense personal accusations?  i stated simple facts. do you always get aggressive when truth is spoken and when you have nothing to say but lies?  i hate erdogan and all his fascism and bigotry most probably a lot more than you!!!

 

anyway, check this photo below. this is a protest done by Kurds in Europe very recently.  so, please dont speak lies like kurds dont do hate speeches towards turks in europe! and they are allowed.  and such nonsense double standards by European hypocrites now about to make bigot Erdogan win the election! bc these are used as a good populist tools by fascist erdogan in Turkey go get more votes!

sorry, you have no idea and just bc hypocrites like you in Europe, bigot erdogan will make Turks suffer more!

 

[Ace of Pop]

20 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I'd heard that previously (a couple of decades ago), but was more recently told by a German friend that this was never the case.

 

Back on topic - look on the bright side, Erdogan's statements make it clear that he's given up on Turkey becoming part of the EU.

I can assure you your friends wrong. They worked in the Index and Effinger Machine Tool factories.

[dick dasterdly]

13 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said:

I can assure you your friends wrong. They worked in the Index and Effinger Machine Tool factories.

I suspected this was the case as it was my ex husband who took a holiday in Germany (a couple of decades ago?) to visit some 'ham radio' friends - and whilst being shown around asked about an un-inviting compound they passed.  He was told it was for "guest workers"....

 

He was horrified.

[Andaman Al]

2 hours ago, Galactus said:

 

you are out when you have nothing to say apart from some nonsense personal accusations?

i stated simple facts. do you always get aggressive when truth is spoken and when you have nothing to say but lies?

i hate erdogan and all his fascism and bigotry most probably a lot more than you!!!

 

anyway, check this photo below. this is a protest done by Kurds in Europe very recently.

so, please dont speak lies like kurds dont do hate speeches towards turks in europe! and they are allowed.

and such nonsense double standards by European hypocrites now about to make bigot Erdogan win the election! bc these are used as a good populist tools by fascist erdogan in Turkey go get more votes!

sorry, you have no idea and just bc hypocrites like you in Europe, bigot erdogan will make Turks suffer more!

 

Well that looks photoshopped with the naked eye without even zooming in to take a closer look.

[Galactus]

15 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Well that looks photoshopped with the naked eye without even zooming in to take a closer look.

are you deliberately lying or just so ignorant that you dont know how to google? or do you fear from facts to google?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-referendum-swiss-idUSKBN16Y0RS

 

'Swiss prosecutors are investigating whether a protest sign calling for the killing of Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan violated laws against inciting violence, police said on Monday.

People demonstrating in Bern on Saturday against plans to extend Erdogan's powers held up a sign reading "Kill Erdogan with his own weapons" and pictured a pistol aimed at his head.'

 

and kurdish media:

http://waarmedia.com/english/turkey-protests-switzerland-kill-erdogan-poster/

Edited April 5, 2017 by Galactus

[Andaman Al]

Just now, Galactus said:

are you deliberately lying or just so ignorant that you dont know how to google? or do you fear from facts to google?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-referendum-swiss-idUSKBN16Y0RS

 

and kurdish media:

http://waarmedia.com/english/turkey-protests-switzerland-kill-erdogan-poster/

How can "well that looks like" be deliberately lying? Go in search of facts for yourself.

[geriatrickid]

3 hours ago, Galactus said:

 

you are out when you have nothing to say apart from some nonsense personal accusations?

i stated simple facts. do you always get aggressive when truth is spoken and when you have nothing to say but lies?

i hate erdogan and all his fascism and bigotry most probably a lot more than you!!!

 

anyway, check this photo below. this is a protest done by Kurds in Europe very recently.

so, please dont speak lies like kurds dont do hate speeches towards turks in europe! and they are allowed.

and such nonsense double standards by European hypocrites now about to make bigot Erdogan win the election! bc these are used as a good populist tools by fascist erdogan in Turkey go get more votes!

sorry, you have no idea and just bc hypocrites like you in Europe, bigot erdogan will make Turks suffer more!

 

Those Kurds are in Germany legally and are subject to German law. Anything illegal they do will be dealt with by Germany. It is no different than Arabs having  rallies in London denouncing the UK or USA or Israel and calling for their death. They can do it  because they have the legal right.

 

Mr. Erdogan wished to send his  agents, his foreign officials into another country and campaign for a political activity.  

 

These are not the same types of activities. One is legal residents and the other is foreign agents. 

 

Now, do  you believe Erdogan would allow German government agents  into Turkey to  work on behalf of the Kurdish Workers Party, or to campaign on behalf of basic human rights or the restoration of free speech or habeas corpus? 

 

You are seriously confused  and are making a fool of yourself.

[jollyhangmon]

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

Those Kurds are in Germany legally and are subject to German law. Anything illegal they do will be dealt with by Germany. It is no different than Arabs having  rallies in London denouncing the UK or USA or Israel and calling for their death. They can do it  because they have the legal right.

 

Mr. Erdogan wished to send his  agents, his foreign officials into another country and campaign for a political activity.  

 

These are not the same types of activities. One is legal residents and the other is foreign agents. 

 

Now, do  you believe Erdogan would allow German government agents  into Turkey to  work on behalf of the Kurdish Workers Party, or to campaign on behalf of basic human rights or the restoration of free speech or habeas corpus? 

 

You are seriously confused  and are making a fool of yourself.

Well, kid, very well put.

I see you've got much more patience in dealing with the Confused Free-Speech Knight than myself, rrrespect.

 

Btw. the only thing really wrong with that pic is that it's content isn't a factual headline already ... 

[Galactus]

2 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Those Kurds are in Germany legally and are subject to German law. Anything illegal they do will be dealt with by Germany. It is no different than Arabs having  rallies in London denouncing the UK or USA or Israel and calling for their death. They can do it  because they have the legal right.

 

Mr. Erdogan wished to send his  agents, his foreign officials into another country and campaign for a political activity.  

 

These are not the same types of activities. One is legal residents and the other is foreign agents. 

 

Now, do  you believe Erdogan would allow German government agents  into Turkey to  work on behalf of the Kurdish Workers Party, or to campaign on behalf of basic human rights or the restoration of free speech or habeas corpus? 

 

You are seriously confused  and are making a fool of yourself.

you are the one making fool of yourself i believe.

turks there also legal citizens and they have right to meet with anyone from abroad. this is their legal right as much as kurds.

so those kurds dont invite anyone from abroad?? most comes from other parts of europe or kurdish areas or old terrorists accepted as immigrants.

german agents that might work for kurdish party in turkey is not same thing too! what a comparison!

and what about the hate filled poster that is investigated by officials there for 'inciting violence? sure laws go behind those guys placing the poster to a government building? what about the guys allowing that poster and hare speeches there? will they be jailed or fined? sorry but dont think so.

 

do i support holland and germany for not accepting turkish officials? yes

but this did more harm than good for turks. again and again, erdogan and their fascists use these as populist tools to get more vote for the incoming referandum giving lots of power to bigot erdogan!

if you cant see this, you have no grasp of this situation apart from your erdogan hate which i totally agree and share your feelings.

holland and germany did this very wrong. they should invite those erdogan fascists, let them do their nonsense speech and leave. if they did this, erdogan might lose the referandum. but know? erdogan is using this double standard to get more votes.

well, hypocrites...they always think that they know better than everyone!

Edited April 5, 2017 by Galactus

[Galactus]

1 hour ago, jollyhangmon said:

Well, kid, very well put.

I see you've got much more patience in dealing with the Confused Free-Speech Knight than myself, rrrespect.

 

Btw. the only thing really wrong with that pic is that it's content isn't a factual headline already ... 

you are a quitter and mostly nothing to say when faced with facts to be honest apart from name calling and childish personal accusations.

 

poster was a big mistake. and europe will pay the price by facing a more powerful fascist and bigot erdogan at the end.

 

 

Edited April 5, 2017 by Galactus

[jollyhangmon]

1 hour ago, Galactus said:

you are a quitter and mostly nothing to say when faced with facts to be honest apart from name calling and childish personal accusations.

 

poster was a big mistake. and europe will pay the price by facing a more powerful fascist and bigot erdogan at the end.

 

 

Sure sure, whatever you blurt out Beknacktus ... 'nothing to say' - makes two of us then. Facts?  

Still, i salute you, one-fingered.