Essaybloke Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 A despicable act, I don't care how 'valid' they believe their cause to be. Sympathies to the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iolaus Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 It is a islam thing. Terrorists.If its the same as in the west these attacks are all false flags to further an agenda. We will never know. Cant trust the news nor the goverments.Sent fra min HUAWEI CAM-L21 via Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I have lived in the deep south. Near Bala reserve. I am a birder that enjoys the wildlife there. I asked several people there what was going on and it all came back to the ex- PM. I'm sure most have heard the stories about the killings. I think that started it. The roads have improved immensely over the years. Thailand has poured allot of money into the south. IMO it will stop in the next few years. Not sure why it is still going on actually. Some very nice folks down there. I lived in a cheap house right on the fringes of town and never had any problems. That being said. While birding in the sticks I have seen guys armed to the teeth. And not military. Years ago when I first started going down. It was really bad. With gun ships patrolling the roads and heavy convoys patrolling the roads. Last year is was not that bad. Edited May 10, 2017 by garyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: The rumour in Pattani is that it could possibly be business rivalry. There are 4 malls owned by a Muslim that have problems drawing in the customers while Big C is more popular. You can draw the conclusion. Personally I doubt the insurgents will target their own Muslim which will hurt their cause. Drawing any conclusion based on rumours floating around would be an exercise in futility. Besides, if it is a business dispute, the religions of the parties seem rather irrelevant other than to pander to support and/or sympathy from one group or another. Or to make it sound a lot more complex and intractable than garden variety depravity and greed. Or, just to throw investigators off the real culprits. Edited May 10, 2017 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Well, I suppose we can blame this dept. or that or the government but I won't be doing that at this time. It is just horrific the average person can't live a decent life without being afraid of such attacks and my feelings go to those who suffered in this blast. The problem is that the people who planned this are most likely tucked away nicely somewhere planning the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottrader77 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 17 hours ago, Bluespunk said: They aren't. Time to negotiate and come up with a settlement all can live with. Neither side can win this and it's time to end the violence. It's failed both sides. negotiations will not end it if indeed it is muslim extremists as muslim extremists want to kill anyone who is not a muslim but they are also killing muslims while trying to make everyone live under shariah law and all the barbaric things that come with living under this violent strain of islam religion a few people say this has nothing to do with islam but im sorry to say it has everything to do with islam and needs to be solved by muslims themselves the inncestant praying upto 6 times a day , learning every word in the koran being compulsory also shariah law , and to deny any other religion exists ALL LEAD TO EXTREME ACTS THESE NEED TO BE SORTED OUT IN THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY !!! WHICH IS NOT BEING FULLY ADDRESSED BY MUSLIMS SO THESE ACTS CONTINUE !! when they investigate this if it is muslim extremists its another act of failure by muslims to fully address this , if it is not due to extremists and is someone else , then it still does not stop more attacks by muslim extremists and so still needs to be sorted out by muslim community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, hottrader77 said: negotiations will not end it if indeed it is muslim extremists as muslim extremists want to kill anyone who is not a muslim but they are also killing muslims while trying to make everyone live under shariah law and all the barbaric things that come with living under this violent strain of islam religion a few people say this has nothing to do with islam but im sorry to say it has everything to do with islam and needs to be solved by muslims themselves the inncestant praying upto 6 times a day , learning every word in the koran being compulsory also shariah law , and to deny any other religion exists ALL LEAD TO EXTREME ACTS THESE NEED TO BE SORTED OUT IN THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY !!! WHICH IS NOT BEING FULLY ADDRESSED BY MUSLIMS SO THESE ACTS CONTINUE !! when they investigate this if it is muslim extremists its another act of failure by muslims to fully address this , if it is not due to extremists and is someone else , then it still does not stop more attacks by muslim extremists and so still needs to be sorted out by muslim community You clearly are clueless about this conflict. Deary, deary me... Edited May 10, 2017 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 20 hours ago, phuketrichard said: the government doesn't do anything,they still believe it is not that serious a problem, OPEN UR EYES 1: It is a long way from Bangkok. 2: Fighting this sort of insurrection is hard work, requires well trained troops, patience, professionalism, good junior leadership and a sustained effort to make the terrorists activities difficult and dangerous, hindering movement and the hiding/transporting of weapons through constant patrolling, observation posts and meticulously collecting information and intelligence. Until you do that there is no incentive or imperative for the terrorists to make any meaningful political moves or discussions. 3. Handing out old rifles to local village militias, and having them stag on at what are little more than breezeblock bus shelters does not achieve anything. 4,There is no money or status to be gained from fighting this sort of campaign. - See point 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 18 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said: The killing will continue, This land was not part of Thailand before. Bangkok will never admit too that they are the ones in the wrong here and when it comes to share and compromise the Thais are like talking to a wall (IMHO). thing is... Thailand is not in the wrong. it's not because a territory was taken over that this is a reason to hand it over to extremists - it would only send the message that killing teachers and schoolchildren is the right thing to do and what would happen to all the buddhists living there then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottrader77 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 29 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: You clearly are clueless about this conflict. Deary, deary me... muslims are wanting a separate state thats whats happening and if you dont know that you are clueless !! its the same as IS the want their own country and are ruthless to do what ever it takes just like this if it is its terrorism , what i would like to see if this is muslim extremists is to do exactly what they did to the tamil tigers and send the army in in big numbers and search all properties etc and shoot dead any of these people that stand in thailands way and fully anaialate the terrorists as they did over many months to the tamil tigers and fully enforce that this is thailands land ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottrader77 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, manarak said: thing is... Thailand is not in the wrong. it's not because a territory was taken over that this is a reason to hand it over to extremists - it would only send the message that killing teachers and schoolchildren is the right thing to do and what would happen to all the buddhists living there then ? never give 1 inch to terrorists , wether it was thailand land before or not people still lived there in peace before all this happened , send the army in in big numbers and squash these extremists like ants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, hottrader77 said: muslims are wanting a separate state thats whats happening and if you dont know that you are clueless !! its the same as IS the want their own country and are ruthless to do what ever it takes just like this if it is its terrorism , what i would like to see if this is muslim extremists is to do exactly what they did to the tamil tigers and send the army in in big numbers and search all properties etc and shoot dead any of these people that stand in thailands way and fully anaialate the terrorists as they did over many months to the tamil tigers and fully enforce that this is thailands land ! As I say, you are clueless about this conflict and I suspect your knowledge of the conflict is Sri Lanka is somewhat limited as well. Almost non existent to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottrader77 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: As I say, you are clueless about this conflict and I suspect your knowledge of the conflict is Sri Lanka is somewhat limited as well. Almost non existent to be honest. HA HA so lets hear your version of what this conflict is about ? and i then can give you the numbers of children women and teachers killed by the people you are supporting Edited May 10, 2017 by hottrader77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, hottrader77 said: HA HA so lets hear your version of what this conflict is about ? and i then can give you the numbers of children women and teachers killed by the people you are supporting I have supported no one. If you think I have then point out where. Be precise. I have no version, I have the truth. You want it then look beyond alt-right BS sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LammyTS1 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 We don't yet know the reasons for this attack. If it was a business dispute, why were the bombs detonated mid afternoon in the knowledge of innocent people being killed or injured? Why didnt they do this when the store was closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 This is a major problem that can never be won. Religion the curse of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said: We don't yet know the reasons for this attack. If it was a business dispute, why were the bombs detonated mid afternoon in the knowledge of innocent people being killed or injured? Why didnt they do this when the store was closed? Since I speculated on the business rivalry (not dispute) angle, here is my 2 cents worth. Those who been to Big C Pattani know that there are actually 2 stages of security checks for vehicles. They scan and do a mirror check and subsequently you get a pass in the next check point in exchange for your ID. I suspect they got help from insiders who close an eye on the check points. I think that they were no serious injuries because the guards hold the crowd back when the second more powerful bomb exploded. The first bomb was from powerful firecrackers not meant to cause serious injuries. Perhaps that is the plan not to maim but intimidate. The guards may know beforehand the whole plan. The objective to do this in the mid afternoon when you have many customers is to scare them off from patronizing this mall. Customers may now feel that the Muslim mall is safer. Make sense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Off topic posts and replies about the IRA/Ireland have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpkapoor Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 22 hours ago, joecoolfrog said: You are entitled to your opinion , if you think all Muslims are terrorists then good for you , I salute your inteligence. All Muslims are not terrorists, but somehow all terrorists are Muslim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, FitnessHealthTravel said: Cowards of the South. They want to bomb themselves back to the stone age and they might get what they are after...eventually. In that case the left ladies in Sweden will invite them to their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headphone Jack Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I think those provinces were seized I the early 1900s, they don't belong to the Thais. They seized a big chunk of Cambodia too, including Siem Riep, Battambang and Koh Kong. War reparations after supporting the Japanese in WW2 forced the return of Cambodian territory. The same should have happened with Malay territory. The French obviously had more sense than the British. However they did lose Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam within ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Headphone Jack said: I think those provinces were seized I the early 1900s, they don't belong to the Thais. They seized a big chunk of Cambodia too, including Siem Riep, Battambang and Koh Kong. War reparations after supporting the Japanese in WW2 forced the return of Cambodian territory. The same should have happened with Malay territory. The French obviously had more sense than the British. However they did lose Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam within ten years. The southern provinces are under mostly Thai control since the mid- 1700s. It's been over 300 years already. What the muslims there don't like is the "Thaiificiation" of the region since the 1930s. And we can't just apply the logic of "who was there first" because it leads nowhere - because at some point, the buddhists were first before the muslims arrived. from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patani Quote The 20th century: forced assimilation Until well into the 20th century, the government in Bangkok had relied on local officials in the implementation of policies within the Patani region, including the exemption in implementing Thai Civil Law, which had allowed Muslims to continue their observance of local laws based on Islam regarding issues on inheritance and family. However, by 1934 Marshall Plaek Phibunsongkhram set in motion of a process of Thaification which had as its objective the cultural assimilation of the Patani people, among other ethnic groups in Thailand.[7] The National Culture Act was enforced as a result of the Thaification process, promoting the concept of 'Thai-ness' and its centralist aims. Its "Mandate 3" was directly aimed at the Patani people.[8] By 1944, Thai civil law was enforced throughout the land including the Patani region over-riding the earlier concessions to local Islamic administrative practices.[9]:131 The school curriculum was revised to that of a Thai-centric one with all lessons in the Thai language. Traditional Muslim courts that were used to handle civil cases were removed and replaced with civil courts run and approved by the central government in Bangkok. This forced assimilation process and the perceived imposition of Thai-Buddhist cultural practices upon their society became an irritant for the harmonious relationship of the ethnic Malay Patani people and the Thai state.[10] Denied recognition as a culturally separate ethnic minority, Patani leaders reacted against the Thai government policy towards them and a nationalist movement began to grow, leading to the South Thailand insurgency. Initially the goal of the nationalist movement such as the Patani United Liberation Organisation (PULO) was secession, pursuing an armed struggle towards an independent state where Patani people could live with dignity without having alien cultural values imposed on them.[11] The 21st century: Traditional culture under threat After 2001, however, the Patani insurgency was taken over by groups whose leaders are mainly Salafist religious teachers that have exacerbated religion, rejecting the nation-building ideology of the early secessionist movements.[12] Current insurgent groups proclaim militant jihadism and are not separatist any more. They have extreme and transnational religious goals, such as an Islamic Caliphate, to the detriment of a constructive cultural or nationalistic Patani identity. Salafi-based groups are hostile to the heritage and practices of traditional Malay Muslims, accusing them of being un-Islamic.[12] They are not concerned about Patani cultural values, instead their immediate aim is to make the Patani region ungovernable.[13] So far, and in the present circumstances, to preserve an identity free of the influence of Militant Islam has been next to impossible for the people of the hapless Patani Region. The activity of the present-day insurgents has changed the face of Patani society by the imposition of extreme religious undercurrents and the enforcement of the stern Salafi rules on local people.[11] Edited May 10, 2017 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, captpkapoor said: All Muslims are not terrorists, but somehow all terrorists are Muslim! All after comma is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 36 minutes ago, manarak said: The southern provinces are under mostly Thai control since the mid- 1700s. It's been over 300 years already. What the muslims there don't like is the "Thaiificiation" of the region since the 1930s. And we can't just apply the logic of "who was there first" because it leads nowhere - because at some point, the buddhists were first before the muslims arrived. from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patani The conflict zone in the South was occupied by the Thais last century. Many of the citizens there still regard the Thai govt as an occupation force. The current conflict started not because of faith but because a former PM destroyed the settlement put in place after the last conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: The conflict zone in the South was occupied by the Thais last century. Many of the citizens there still regard the Thai govt as an occupation force. The current conflict started not because of faith but because a former PM destroyed the settlement put in place after the last conflict. Was the former PM in the period of 60s and 70s. That's when armed insurgent resistance started according to the Timeline of Wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Was the former PM in the period of 60s and 70s. That's when armed insurgent resistance started according to the Timeline of Wiki. Nope. It was the one who's actions led to the Tak Bai Massacre. Never trust wiki... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 09/05/2017 at 4:54 PM, hansnl said: It is a islam thing. Terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 More love from the religion of peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 hours ago, USPatriot said: More love from the religion of peace More tedious quotes reflecting lazy thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 5:05 PM, phuketrichard said: the government doesn't do anything,they still believe it is not that serious a problem, OPEN UR EYES surprised they havent brought the attacks to Bkk yet, that would seriously <deleted> things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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