Trump calls special counsel Russia probe 'greatest witch hunt' in U.S. history

[iReason]

9 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

You do realise that im very well compensated by the russians for my services. 

 

There ya have it folks.

 

On record.

 

Or, simply Trolling.

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, In the jungle said:

I guessed Bannon would be the new guy under FBI scrutiny but according to a couple of British news sources it is Jared Kushner.

I heard a report recently that trump was yelling at most everyone including Kushner and it was noted that's unusual for him to yell at Kushner, the husband of his crush, Ivanka. 

 

It seems it's pointing to Kushner so far:

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/19/russia_probe_reaches_someone_close_to_trump_in_white_house.html

So who is this person of interest? Based on previous reporting, the most likely suspects are White House strategist and former Breitbart head Steve Bannon and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner. McClatchy has already reported that the FBI is looking into the role of Breitbart in amplifying Russian propaganda during the campaign. Kushner is already known to have failed to disclose his contacts with Russian officials on his application for top-secret security clearance; he also reportedly urged Trump to fire Comey. Further, last month the New York Timesreported that Bannon had told confidents “that he believes Mr. Kushner’s contact with Russians, and his expected testimony before Congress on the subject, will become a major distraction for the White House.”

 

Edited May 20, 2017 by Jingthing

[iReason]

Sources: White House lawyers research impeachment

 

"White House lawyers have begun researching impeachment procedures in an effort to prepare for what officials still believe is a distant possibility that President Donald Trump could have to fend off attempts to remove him from office, two people briefed on the discussions tell CNN."

 

"The legal discussions are part of a broader internal effort to bolster the president's legal defense, which has become more complicated with the Justice Department's appointment of a special counsel to pursue the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election."

 

"Earlier this week, close advisers to the President, including lawyer and surrogate Michael Cohen, visited the White House to discuss his need to hire personal attorneys for Trump."

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/donald-trump-white-house-lawyers-research-impeachment/index.html

[JHolmesJr]

13 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

There ya have it folks.

 

On record.

 

Or, simply Trolling.

 

Once again I am reminded of my own rule …. never use sarcasm with dimwits on the internet.

 

Live and learn.

[Scott]

An off-topic post that violates Fair Use policy has been removed.  

[iReason]

Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner 'person of interest in Russia investigation'

 

"Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has reportedly been identified as a “person of interest” in the ongoing investigation into possible ties between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign."

 

"The Washington Post said a senior adviser to Mr Trump was among people investigators wanted to speak to."

 

"White House officials have previously acknowledged contacts between Russian officials and Mr Kushner, as well as with Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jared-kushner-russia-investigation-trump-song-in-law-probe-person-interest-a7745916.html

[Stradavarius37]

Love watching the Trump Sh#tshow and the dimwit 60 million Americans who voted for this clown - thrashing around trying to defend his infantile behavior.  They say you have to hit bottom before you can start to get better - President P#ssy Grabber is definitely rock bottom. 

Edited May 20, 2017 by Stradavarius37

[selftaopath]

23 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

                            Congressional members 'ooh and aah' whenever a Trump appointee gets shot down, as happened with Flynn, and will soon happen with Sessions.   YET, TRUMP NOMINATED THOSE PEOPLE.

                           Pence also has one foot in hot water.  He has been in charge of vetting all nominees, and by any account, has been doing an abysmal job of it.  Pence has also been lying like a flea-infested rug.

                         Message to Congressional Republicans who voted in lockstep to approve Trump's nominees:  How does it feel to be such partisan A-holes?   All of you voted for seriously flawed candidates.  You can say you didn't know, when you voted, but then you're lying SOB's, because anyone who followed the news at that time, knew.  I knew.  So that makes me smarter than all of you.   So if you, Republican politicians, knew you were voting for law-breakers, then that makes you lower than dried shit on the soles of my shoes.

                 And the handful of Dems who voted for Sessions and Flynn and De Vos and other severely flawed candidates.   You're even worse.  You can't use the excuse of blind partisanship.    Your only excuse is profound ass-licking ignorance.   

 

AMEN. I hope they all experience karma and soon. How pathetic these scumsuckers are they are entrusted to honor U.S. rule of law, protect U.S. Constitution and way of life but they continue choosing personal wealth/power and party over country.

 

Does the U.S. still use/have firing squads? I guess a long prison term for many of them might be in their futures. LOL I wonder how Jared and Ivanka would hold up? lol lol 

[ilostmypassword]

8 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Once again I am reminded of my own rule …. never use sarcasm with dimwits on the internet.

 

Live and learn.

Wow. So you've been massively punking us all along?  That makes so much sense. I mean, how could anybody sincerely assert that all Donald's Trump's shenanigans were part of a plan and that he was repeatedly outsmarting everybody who opposed him.  Welcome to the side of the angels!

Of course, if you weren't kidding about that, then why would anyone expect sarcasm from you on this thread? But of course you had to have been kidding all along.  You sure fooled me. Good one!

[Morch]

Well, if some want to be charitable, this special counsel appointment can be a start on "draining the swamp". Not as Trump intended, perhaps, but eh.

[iReason]

Trump thinks he is the target of a 'witch hunt.' Nixon thought so too

 

"President Trump is not the first president to believe he was the victim of a political witch hunt."

 

Former president Richard Nixon also used that phrase when speaking about the Senate Watergate hearings looking into the scandal that eventually led to his resignation, Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein reported in 1973."

 

"'The President,' one source said, 'sees the hearings as an attempt to get Richard Nixon and do it just damn unfairly,'" Woodward and Bernstein wrote."

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/05/18/trump-nixon-witch-hunt/101846962/

Edited May 20, 2017 by iReason

[jerojero]

Conveniently hipocractic, forgetting his own words: Lock her up! Lock her up! Now it damn well should be: Impeach him now! Impeach him now!

 

 

[SheungWan]

On 5/19/2017 at 3:35 PM, Pat in Pattaya said:

Would you still buy US stocks?

 

21 hours ago, 55Jay said:

Yes.  Don't confuse politics with money in that context.  They don't. 

The question becomes more interesting with whether you would trade US (or other stocks) with the current Trump factor. And the answer is yes. The politics is now an aspect of the market not a confusion and there are trading opportunities.One only has to consider the VIX and the stocks most immediately impacted on with sharp movements in the VIX to know that it is playtime for some. Not a 1:1 relationship but can def try to test politics through trades.

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, iReason said:

Trump thinks he is the target of a 'witch hunt.' Nixon thought so too

 

"President Trump is not the first president to believe he was the victim of a political witch hunt."

 

Former president Richard Nixon also used that phrase when speaking about the Senate Watergate hearings looking into the scandal that eventually led to his resignation, Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein reported in 1973."

 

"'The President,' one source said, 'sees the hearings as an attempt to get Richard Nixon and do it just damn unfairly,'" Woodward and Bernstein wrote."

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/05/18/trump-nixon-witch-hunt/101846962/

I hate to quibble, but it's not a witch hunt, it's an orange troll hunt.  And now we have all these "Save the orange troll" fools objecting to it.

[pegman]

There was a Republican lawyer who worked in the Bush Jr regime on tv today. He stated that what Trump said to the Russians about removing Comey and the pressure being off was in fact an admission of guilt to obstruction of Justice. If the investigators have a witness to that it should proceed with charges and trial immediately.

[iReason]

 

[selftaopath]

18 hours ago, jerojero said:

Conveniently hipocractic, forgetting his own words: Lock her up! Lock her up! Now it damn well should be: Impeach him now! Impeach him now!

 

 

Perhaps Lock him up/Lock him up would be a reasonable consideration too. 

[YetAnother]

that guy really doesnt know when to just shut up

[jerojero]

Lock her up! Lock her up! Equally biggest witch hunt by Trump! Hipocracy knows no bounds with him.

 

 

[Crowes]

1 hour ago, jerojero said:

Lock her up! Lock her up! Equally biggest witch hunt by Trump! Hipocracy knows no bounds with him.

 

 

 

The difference being the cold hard evidence that Hillary did indeed break the law, regardless of her "intent". Trumps allegations are all hearsay by the liberal media who can't accept their candidate lost.

[Credo]

19 minutes ago, Crowes said:

 

The difference being the cold hard evidence that Hillary did indeed break the law, regardless of her "intent". Trumps allegations are all hearsay by the liberal media who can't accept their candidate lost.

The typical off-topic deflection that one would expect.   Hillary did not break a law.   Intent is part of the law.   Much of what she violated were regulations, not laws.   

 

Trumps allegations are more than hearsay.   He at a minimum requested that an on-going investigation 'go away.'   That is obstruction of justice, which is not a regulation, but a law.   

 

Whether these infractions of the law rise to the level of a crime is why they are being investigated.   It is Congress and a Special Prosecutor who are looking into it, not the press.   

[heybruce]

18 minutes ago, Crowes said:

 

The difference being the cold hard evidence that Hillary did indeed break the law, regardless of her "intent". Trumps allegations are all hearsay by the liberal media who can't accept their candidate lost.

I'm not sure which, if any, candidate the Wall Street Journal backed, but few people consider it 'liberal media'.  It too has been reporting on Trump's fiascos, relying anonymous White House sources just like every other news organization eager to gather news of importance.

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, Crowes said:

regardless of her "intent"

No, not regardless of her intent. There has to be intent for criminal conviction in HRC's case. Such as - Did HRC "deliberately" store the emails on a private server with the "intent" that they could be stolen by unauthorized persons?

 

The FBI determined that she was "careless" in her handling of the subject emails but had no intent for unauthorized disclosure of classified information. The data was stored in a manner that made it potentially vulnerable to third party hacking. Hence - careless handling. Furthermore, disclosure of any of the subject emails to her staff was not a crime as her staff had the appropriate classified clearances.

[ubonjoe]

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[mtls2005]

 

Edited May 22, 2017 by mtls2005

[Jingthing]

Smoke.

More smoke.

Smoke BIGLY.

 

The trump regime is really in trouble.  This is getting much closer to Mr. Big and it ain't going away.

 

Let's get to the bottom of this. OK?

 

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Brennan’s explosive testimony just made it harder for the GOP to protect Trump

...

Indeed, in one of the most important moments, Brennan’s testimony ended up making it very clear that there was a sufficient intelligence basis for the FBI to conduct an investigation into whether those “contacts and interactions” amounted to collusion.

The result of this was that, by trying to get Brennan to say there was no collusion, Republicans made it overwhelmingly obvious that they are trying to undermine the investigation, or at least erode public confidence in it — as is Trump.

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/05/23/brennans-explosive-testimony-just-made-it-harder-for-the-gop-to-protect-trump

 

 

[SheungWan]

Its always the cover-up.

[maewang99]

he's not just a nut job.....

  he's not just poorly educated....

    he's a witch. hee heeee!!!!!
 

he always seemed quite effeminate.... with his 'manly talk'..... 

 

 

the only one he ever ****seems*** to get mixed up on is the 'winners and losers' theme... he calls everyone a loser yet somehow he 'won' the US election....

 

 

or did he? that's what this one is all about eh?
 

Edited May 24, 2017 by maewang99

[SheungWan]

10 minutes ago, maewang99 said:

I agree once again with Trump.

he's not just a showboater....

he's not just a nut job.....

he's not just poorly educated....

he's a witch. 

 

he always seemed quite effeminate.... with his 'manly talk' a cover..... 

 

 

the only one he ever gets mixed up on is the 'winners and losers' theme... he calls everyone a loser yet somehow he 'won' the US election.... or did he?

and that's what this one is all about, eh?

 

 

Well no. Even if all the accusations are true the election result stands. What this one is actually about is not Russian interference in the Presidential election, it is about whether the Trump team colluded with a foreign power. It may extend to interference (covering-up) with the subsequent inquiries. In the event of Trump losing his position, Pence would take over. But the election result still stands.

[alanrchase]

I wish Trump would get his stories straight. He tells us that he was told on three occasions that he is not under investigation, then claims there is a witch hunt against him.