Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[F4UCorsair]

4 hours ago, Silurian said:

Not good numbers from America's youth for Donny John.

 

No surprise from an organization seen to be well left of center.

 

A poll can reveal whatever its organizers want.   You only call voters in those areas where you know what the answers will be, or exclude those you don't like.   Polls are of limited value except for those who commission them.

Edited January 11, 2018 by F4UCorsair

[Skywalker69]

42 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Assuming your right,65 million American's thought about this and decided to elect him anyway.Maybe they thought other issues were more important ,like bringing jobs back from other countries, fixing the economy or stopping illegals from coming in or stopping Isis etc etc etc ,Besides it was two guys talking guy talk, privately.

 .

Trump’s much-hyped ‘job boom’ is fake news: 2017 was the worst year for job creation since 2011

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-job-boom-actually-the-fewest-number-of-jobs-created-in-the-last-6-years-0465cb9b54c2/

 

How many Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.3acb80f72b4a

 

If Trump kills NAFTA, farmers, bars and factories lose jobs

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/news/economy/donald-trump-nafta/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Scott]

Troll posts removed.   If you don't like someone's statistics, feel free to FIND YOUR OWN and post them.  

 

Baiting and bickering become tiresome quickly.   

[lannarebirth]

1 hour ago, Skywalker69 said:

Trump’s much-hyped ‘job boom’ is fake news: 2017 was the worst year for job creation since 2011

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-job-boom-actually-the-fewest-number-of-jobs-created-in-the-last-6-years-0465cb9b54c2/

 

Much harder to create jobs when the unemployment rate is 4% with an upticking  labor participation rate than it was when it was 9% and decling labor participation rate.

[lannarebirth]

15 hours ago, heybruce said:

" Hilary lost because she and her husband are perhaps the most despicably corrupt public figures in recent years. Everybody knows this is true, the evidence is plain to see from oversight committees that sacked her years ago, to Whitewater and the biggest arms deal in recorded history to Saudi and Qatar (used to arm ISIS) the list goes on."

 

What oversight committee sacked HRC?  What arms deals that were not a normal part of the US selling weapons to MidEast allies, which happened under all administrations?  Regarding Whitewater, what started out as an investigation into a supposedly shady real estate deal expanded into a muti-year, multi-million dollar research project into finding anything possible against the Clintons.  All they came up with is that Bill cheated on his wife, something Trump has done.

 

The Clintons may be the most investigated political family in history, but few of these investigations have led to anything of note.  Republicans are frightened that their investigation tactic is being used against one of their own.

 

"So far he has done little to enrage the liberal sensibility. Expecting immigrants to be legal is surely acceptable? He is opposed only by those with vested interests in keeping an underpaid, slave labour force available to pick the fruit and vegetables for the champagne socialist hypocrites in California."

 

Speaking of a vested interests in immigrants in general and illegal ones in particular:

 

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-undocumented-immigrants-tower-demolish-724845

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/11/28/trump_paid_settlement_to_undocumented_workers_hired_for_trump_tower_project.html

 

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/136447/trumps-modeling-agency-virtual-sweatshop-hired-undocumented-immigrants

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-visas-foreign-workers-america-first-florida-club-a8038366.html

 

I don't think any of that is why Hilary lost. I think she lost because more and more traditional Democrats believed their party no longer cared their problems, their values their vote or indeed even their very lives.  Good article:

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/amp/story/2018/01/11/terry-goodin-rural-democrats-indiana-216273

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

Much harder to create jobs when the unemployment rate is 4% with an upticking  labor participation rate than it was when it was 9% and decling labor participation rate.

So you agree that Obama did great things for the economy. 

 

Let's see if we can guide you to the next logical step.  Bush Jr. took office with the economy in a mild recession, a budget surplus and the country at peace. He left the country with two unfinished wars, the economy in freefall and his final budget driving a $1.3 trillion deficit.  He accomplished this by cutting taxes, reckless spending, and being clueless about international affairs.

 

Trump took office with the economy strong, employment low, and the deficit one third of the one he inherited.  Trump is, like Bush, cutting taxes, increasing spending, and is clueless about international affairs.  How do you think this will end?

Edited January 12, 2018 by heybruce

[lannarebirth]

11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

So you agree that Obama did great things for the economy. 

 

Let's see if we can guide you to the next logical step.  Bush Jr. took office with the economy in a mild recession, a budget surplus and the country at peace. He left the country with two unfinished wars, the economy in freefall and his final budget driving a $1.3 trillion deficit.  He accomplished this by cutting taxes, reckless spending, and being clueless on about international affairs.

 

Trump took office with the economy strong, employment low, and the deficit one third of the one he inherited.  Trump is, like Bush, cutting taxes, increasing spending, and is clueless about international affairs.  How do you think this will end?

 

I agree that there are economic cycles, some deeper than others. I also agree that recessions sow the seeds for recoveries by repricing assets, clearing debt, and emboldening risk takers.

 

How do I think it will end? I think it will end in a financial crisis. One I hope to be positioned well for, as I was the last. But I think this NEXT financial crisis will sow the seeds of a more just and sustainable economic system within the US. That is my hope anyway.

 

BTW:  Had Trump not been elected I still think this current expanding economy would end in a financial crisis.

Edited January 12, 2018 by lannarebirth

[Becker]

6 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

I don't think there would be anybody at the Washington Post who could count to 2000!!!

Wow, that's so funny! And the fact that you are a man-child supporter yet you question other people's intelligence makes it hilarious. 

 

PS. Now calm down, "hilarous" has got nothing to do with "Hillary"

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I agree that there are economic cycles, some deeper than others. I also agree that recessions sow the seeds for recoveries by repricing assets, clearing debt, and emboldening risk takers.

 

How do I think it will end? I think it will end in a financial crisis. One I hope to be positioned well for, as I was the last. But I think this NEXT financial crisis will sow the seeds of a more just and sustainable economic system within the US. That is my hope anyway.

 

BTW:  Had Trump not been elected I still think this current expanding economy would end in a financial crisis.

You think greatly increasing the Federal Debt will position us for the next financial crisis? 

 

How about new war(s) in the MidEast, which Trump seems keen on provoking?  Perhaps one on the Korean peninsula, expanding into surrounding areas as well?

[lannarebirth]

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

You think greatly increasing the Federal Debt will position us for the next financial crisis? 

 

How about new war(s) in the MidEast, which Trump seems keen on provoking?  Perhaps one on the Korean peninsula, expanding into surrounding areas as well?

 

I think debt of all kinds,  steepening wealth inequality, bad Fed policy and increasing corporatism coupled with anti-competive practices will positioning us for the next financial crisis.

 

I don't have an opinion on future wars but I've been pretty strongly against our perpetual war footing for many years now.

[heybruce]

11 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I think debt of all kinds,  steepening wealth inequality, bad Fed policy and increasing corporatism coupled with anti-competive practices will positioning us for the next financial crisis.

 

I don't have an opinion on future wars but I've been pretty strongly against our perpetual war footing for many years now.

It seems you are opposed to all things Trump is promoting.

 

 

[lannarebirth]

Just now, heybruce said:

It seems you are opposed to all things Trump is promoting.

 

 

 

Mostly, yeah. Same with the last guy.

[Thakkar]

7 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

I don't think there would be anybody at the Washington Post who could count to 2000!!!

If you’re trying to be funny, don’t quit your day job.

Here’s a tip: multiple exclamation points only help if what you’re saying is *actually* funny or *actually* something remarkable, otherwise they just emphasize the tiresome vapid dullness of the statement.

[evadgib]

Trumps UK visit is off:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42657954

[papa al]

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Mostly, yeah. Same with the last guy.

All of them since JFK, except Jimmie Carter.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.  

[thaihome]

6 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I don't think any of that is why Hilary lost. I think she lost because more and more traditional Democrats believed their party no longer cared their problems, their values their vote or indeed even their very lives.  Good article:

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/amp/story/2018/01/11/terry-goodin-rural-democrats-indiana-216273

I don't think the future of the Democratic Party is in appealing to ignorance and racist people just because you agree with some economic programs. This is the same "bargain with the devil" the Republican party made in 1968. That is what Terry Goodin  is promoting. I dont what to be on the same side with an individual that refuses to train a muslim to be a truck driver because he thinks he will get blown up even if I agree with him on healthcare. 

TH 

 

Edited January 12, 2018 by thaihome

[Skywalker69]

13 hours ago, Skywalker69 said:

Trump’s much-hyped ‘job boom’ is fake news: 2017 was the worst year for job creation since 2011

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-job-boom-actually-the-fewest-number-of-jobs-created-in-the-last-6-years-0465cb9b54c2/

 

How many Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.3acb80f72b4a

 

If Trump kills NAFTA, farmers, bars and factories lose jobs

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/news/economy/donald-trump-nafta/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

List of the 154 U.S. stores Walmart is closing

 

Walmart announced Friday that is closing 269 stores worldwide as it sharpens its focus on its supercenters and e-commerce business.

 

In the United States, 154 stores will be closed, including: 102 Walmart Express stores, 6 discount centers, 12 Supercenters, 23 Neighborhood Markets, 4 Sam's Clubs and 7 Amigo stores in Puerto Rico.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/list-of-walmart-stores-closing/78852898/

[Skywalker69]

 He is insane!

 

Trump says he has 'very good relationship' with Kim Jong Un

 

 

President Donald Trump said he "probably" has "a very good relationship" with Kim Jong Un but would not say whether he has spoken to the North Korean leader during an interview with The Wall Street Journal Thursday.

 

“I probably have a very good relationship with Kim Jong Un, ” Trump told the Journal in a 45-minute sit-down at the White House. “I have relationships with people. I think you people are surprised.”

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/trump-interview-very-good-relationshisp-kim-jong-un-336941

[Jingthing]

trump the dumbest president in history?

Probably so but it's hard to ignore his world class talents in showmanship, diversion, controlling the topics in the daily news, lying, and being a con man and twitter troll.

 

Quote

 

THE DUMBEST PRESIDENT

Michael Wolff’s new book solidifies Trump’s legacy as a petulant man-child with a rodent’s attention span.

Alex Nichols

...

 At times, I’ve worried that the currently strong economy might overshadow President Donald Trump’s deteriorating chowder-brain and gift him the same sort of white yuppie revisionism that rescued Ronald Reagan’s legacy. But after reading Michael Wolff’s surreal tell-all, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House I can say with the utmost confidence that the Dow's recent performance won’t make it into future history textbooks. Trump will be remembered chiefly, even solely, as America’s dumbest president.

 

 

 

https://theoutline.com/post/2853/fire-and-fury-review-michael-wolff-donald-trump-book?zd=1

 

 

Edited January 12, 2018 by Jingthing

[Meljames]

4 hours ago, Skywalker69 said:

List of the 154 U.S. stores Walmart is closing

 

 

Doubt the closings are Trump related, if that's what you're suggesting. Most likely a result of market changes in people's buying habits. 

[lannarebirth]

13 hours ago, thaihome said:

I don't think the future of the Democratic Party is in appealing to ignorance and racist people just because you agree with some economic programs. This is the same "bargain with the devil" the Republican party made in 1968. That is what Terry Goodin  is promoting. I dont what to be on the same side with an individual that refuses to train a muslim to be a truck driver because he thinks he will get blown up even if I agree with him on healthcare. 

TH 

 

 

So you disagree with the politician that agreement on 90% of issues is not a high enough threshold for inclusion? That is your right. Just as it is your right to whine when your party loses at the polls.

Edited January 12, 2018 by lannarebirth

[Opl]

"Donald Trump today boasted of the United States' sale of 'F52' aircraft to Norway. They don't exist, other than elements in the popular video game 'Call of Duty “In November, we started delivering the first F-52s and F-35 fighter jets,” he blurted..“Trump was supposed to be speaking at the White House to announce Norway's purchase of 52 F-35 jets from American aerospace firm Lockheed Martin,” according to reports.

http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2018/01/11/trump-sen-prend-aux-immigrants-en-provenance-de-pays-de-merde_a_23331271/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|dl-headline%26pLid%3D813567816_uk'

 

 

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, Meljames said:

 

Doubt the closings are Trump related, if that's what you're suggesting. Most likely a result of market changes in people's buying habits. 

He keeps bragging about all the jobs he's creating. 

[lannarebirth]

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He keeps bragging about all the jobs he's creating. 

 

On the whole it was a pretty good day for the 1.4 million people who are employed by Walmart in the US. I assume the employees who were affected by store closures will be given precedence in hiring at the other Walmart locations.

 

Quote

 

Walmart boosts minimum wage again, hands out $1,000 bonuses

 

Walmart is boosting the minimum hourly wage for its U.S. employees to $11 and dishing out bonuses of up to $1,000, crediting President Trump's tax cut for enabling the move.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/01/11/walmart-boosts-minimum-wage-11-hands-out-bonuses-up-1-000-hourly-workers/1023606001/

 

 

 

Edited January 12, 2018 by lannarebirth

[simple1]

3 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

On the whole it was a pretty good day for the 1.4 million people who are employed by Walmart in the US. I assume the employees who were affected by store closures will be given precedence in hiring at the other Walmart locations.

 

Employees who have worked for at least 20 years will get the full $1,000, but most will get up to a few hundred dollars.

 

Out of curiosity how did the one million hourly workers previously survive on US$10 p.h. I assume an extra US$1:00 p.h. will not make any real difference to quality of life; is that correct?

[lannarebirth]

10 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Employees who have worked for at least 20 years will get the full $1,000, but most will get up to a few hundred dollars.

 

Out of curiosity how did the one million hourly workers previously survive on US$10 p.h. I assume an extra US$1:00 p.h. will not make any real difference to quality of life; is that correct?

 

It is the minimum entry level wage. I'm not sure how they survive on it. Nor am I sure how McDonalds workers survive on their minimum $10/hr wage or Starbucks workers survive on their average $9.34/hr wage. I do know that the Federal Minimum Wage in many of the states Walmart operates in is $7.25/hr So on a relative basis things could be worse.

 

That the federal minimum wage is so low is shameful. It has been there since 2009. Paying people such a low wage ensures no income tax revenues from these people and makes them eligible for all manner of federal handouts, including Medicaid, food stamps and probably housing subsidies. This amounts to a de facto subsidization , corporate welfare if you will, of these companies by the taxpayers.

[janclaes47]

14 hours ago, Skywalker69 said:

List of the 154 U.S. stores Walmart is closing

 

Walmart announced Friday that is closing 269 stores worldwide as it sharpens its focus on its supercenters and e-commerce business.

 

In the United States, 154 stores will be closed, including: 102 Walmart Express stores, 6 discount centers, 12 Supercenters, 23 Neighborhood Markets, 4 Sam's Clubs and 7 Amigo stores in Puerto Rico.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/list-of-walmart-stores-closing/78852898/

You mean it was Trump's fault that Walmart announced these closure on 16 January 2016, 1 year before Trump became president?

[Peterw42]

11 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

You mean it was Trump's fault that Walmart announced these closure on 16 January 2016, 1 year before Trump became president?

He has to take the blame if he also wants to take the credit, as he does, for other things announced prior to his presidency.

 

Ford's Michigan investment, Ford's Kentucky factory, ExxonMobil's Gulf Coast investment, Charter Communications' hiring plans, Intel's Arizona factory.

 

All deals made or announced before Trump, that he has taken credit for.

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/trump-takes-credit-list?utm_term=.pkLgeawOz#.pvDeNEaQd

Edited January 13, 2018 by Peterw42

[Credo]

U.S. ambassador to Panama resigns, says cannot serve Trump

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Ambassador to Panama John Feeley, a career diplomat and former Marine Corps helicopter pilot, has resigned, saying he no longer felt able to serve President Donald Trump.

Feeley's departure had been communicated to State Department officials on Dec. 27 and was not a response to Trump's alleged use of the word "shithole" to describe Haiti and African countries at a meeting on Thursday, U.S. officials said.

Trump denies using the term.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-ambassador-panama-resigns-says-cannot-serve-trump-163051490.html