Thailand to get tough on foreigners working without work permits, employers also targeted

[owl sees all]

Thousands of farang without work permit work on the farms and around the house. Is this illegal??? Does holding a usufruct or lease does make any difference?

[AGareth2]

4 minutes ago, petedk said:

Yes. The salary is around 20K.

Some of my students graduate and get more than me after just a few months.

do you want to change uni?

[alphaflight]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah, blah........

This country has been getting tough on an endless list of things. In the end they will keep on doing whatever they have to so that the foreigners keep on coming and staying in there less than satisfactory country. Without them the country wouldn't stay afloat. Unless they just want the cheap filthy Chinese that they so often complain about coming in and beating them at their own game. You need us to pay your corrupt government, police, island mafia's and the other 90% of the countries poor street workers you spit on everyday.

Complain and play the blame game when we're around, and then cry to the world when we're gone and you have no one to cheat and steal money from.

[AGareth2]

2 minutes ago, balo said:

30k and work like mad as a teacher, no thanks .  

 

 

lol

depends where you lecture

[marquess]

14 minutes ago, hobobo said:

Well legitimately married Thais don't get these rights in the UK, so why should Thais do it over here?

Wrong they do, I have known quite a few who are in genuine marriages and who are now citizens and have as much rights in the UK as any native. Yet here even if one has been married for 30 years one still has to jump through the annual hoops and endure the various bureaucratic hassles when it comes to getting a WP. Xenophobic nationalism! 

[petedk]

1 minute ago, balo said:

30k and work like mad as a teacher, no thanks .  

 

 

Who says we work like mad?

 

The university pays 30K. We only teach a few hours a week.

 

I then go to other GOVERNMENT organisations to do work. These are not mentioned on my work permit. Will they be fined 400K?

[petedk]

1 minute ago, AGareth2 said:

do you want to change uni?

yes, but I hung on to this place so long. I have reached the age where it is impossible to change.

 

Every time I thought about moving on they mentioned that the university would soon increase the salaries.

[AGareth2]

1 minute ago, petedk said:

yes, but I hung on to this place so long. I have reached the age where it is impossible to change.

 

Every time I thought about moving on they mentioned that the university would soon increase the salaries.

pm me your age

got a vacancy come Oct

Edited June 27, 2017 by AGareth2

[sead]

So am i not permitted to take care of my house as repainting and garden etc?

If not then Thais also cant right but must hire someone.

 

[zzidenn]

1 hour ago, little mary sunshine said:

Throw the bums out....Start with the Russians, Indians,

Nigerians and Chinese !!

 

Maybe you should lead them out since you are just being racist, which is silly for foreigners in a far far away country

[Lampang2]

4 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

curious to know what work permit the Russian girls have in Pattaya?

 

Sexy Real Estate Agent or Head Nurse?

 

 

whatever they have, the price just went up

 

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

3 minutes ago, petedk said:

Who says we work like mad?

 

The university pays 30K. We only teach a few hours a week.

 

I then go to other GOVERNMENT organisations to do work. These are not mentioned on my work permit. Will they be fined 400K?

probably not but you could face 5 year in BKK Hilton

[zzidenn]

Just now, sead said:

So am i not permitted to take care of my house as repainting and garden etc?

If not then Thais also cant right but must hire someone.

 

If u paint your own house without paying yourself to do so, you might be just fine, otherwise just do it as a good workout and say it's sport.

[Singhsuea]

Fined up to 100k if you don't have a workpermit, and up to 100k if you do but you're caught doing work outside its specifications? That's a little harsh. 

[bannork]

12 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Thousands of farang without work permit work on the farms and around the house. Is this illegal??? Does holding a usufruct or lease does make any difference?

Unless you have a problem with a malicious local you will be left undisturbed to plant trees, grow rice, weed the garden, etc.

[alphaflight]

Funny that their own people will go and work illegally in any country they can.

It's no wonder the Thai passport is very limited to the number of countries it can be used to enter......

Edited June 27, 2017 by alphaflight

[zib]

I have a work permit. On it it says "Manager, Supervising Chef". I was arrested by undercover police for carrying a box of potatoes to the kitchen which he said is manual labor reserved for Thais. 

[alphaflight]

2 minutes ago, zib said:

I have a work permit. On it it says "Manager, Supervising Chef". I was arrested by undercover police for carrying a box of potatoes to the kitchen which he said is manual labor reserved for Thais. 

It figures the cop didn't have something better to do. And for a job most would be to lazy to do.

[Cadbury]

3 minutes ago, zib said:

I have a work permit. On it it says "Manager, Supervising Chef". I was arrested by undercover police for carrying a box of potatoes to the kitchen which he said is manual labor reserved for Thais. 

Says a lot about the insecurity and paranoia of the military authorities.  How much worse can their insecurity get?

[ukrules]

1 minute ago, alphaflight said:

It figures the cop didn't have something better to do. And for a job most would be to lazy to do.

This is what they do. It's nothing new.

[little mary sunshine]

1 hour ago, Thai Ron said:

Please tell me the source of the "facts" your statement is based on.

I lived in London for 8 years.

 

Many retired Brits sit and talk all day about

how they have no money, living so close to

the edge, many in their early 50's. As soon as

the get a little pension they take the small

amount and regret it later.  To lazy to work 

until they are in their 60's.

Edited June 27, 2017 by little mary sunshine

[ukrules]

6 minutes ago, zib said:

I have a work permit. On it it says "Manager, Supervising Chef". I was arrested by undercover police for carrying a box of potatoes to the kitchen which he said is manual labor reserved for Thais. 

They do appear to target chefs / restaurant managers from what I've seen. If you do one thing outside the very specific and narrow definition of your job they want the money.

 

[csabo]

Bad news for every foreigner as this will be interpreted by I/O's as carte blanche to harass the crap out of everyone not born here to a whole new level regardless of any legitimate probable cause.

[little mary sunshine]

32 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

do you want to change uni?

Something is wrong here.  Two British friends, each

with a Masters Degree in Education began teaching

in BKK last year B 65,000 per month!?

[little mary sunshine]

32 minutes ago, zzidenn said:

Maybe you should lead them out since you are just being racist, which is silly for foreigners in a far far away country

Apparently, you have no idea what a racist is....try checking

the dictionary.

[petedk]

1 minute ago, little mary sunshine said:

Something is wrong here.  Two British friends, each

with a Masters Degree in Education began teaching

in BKK last year B 65,000 per month!?

Private university?

 

Government universities only pay the 28K. Some do have a "supplement" of 4 or 5 K from the department.

 

I know another government university who have just advertised for 5 new teachers at 28K. but they pay me a lot to do other work for them.They got 0 (Zero) applicants.

My university also hires external teachers/lecturers and from what I hear pay them well.

 

TIT.

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

1 minute ago, petedk said:

Private university?

 

Government universities only pay the 28K. Some do have a "supplement" of 4 or 5 K from the department.

 

I know another government university who have just advertised for 5 new teachers at 28K. but they pay me a lot to do other work for them.They got 0 (Zero) applicants.

My university also hires external teachers/lecturers and from what I hear pay them well.

 

TIT.

Do they arrange for work permits for the  external teachers/lecturers?    

[petedk]

Just now, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

Do they arrange for work permits for the  external teachers/lecturers?    

LOL  No. They only teach part time.

[ben2talk]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

Working in Thailand is a lot of hassle, unless someone else does all the paperwork for you I would not recommend it, there's plenty of other countries which make things a whole lot easier.

 

I know someone who was fined for painting a wall and know of someone else who was fined for momentarily holding some cables up for a workman.

 

If you work in Thailand as a foreigner and you will be surveilled by under cover police and they will pounce if you so much as make one tiny 'mistake' - this is with a work permit.

I nearly scoffed at this... then I remembered an incident outside a 7-11 at 2pm one Wednesday afternoon drinking a coke. A Thai guy lit up a smoke and said hello, chatted for about 30 seconds until his friend walked up in front and then casually asked me to show him my passport.

 

Within 5 minutes, both myself and a friend who was inside the 7-11 were being bundled off to the local police station... I had to arrange for someone to go and fetch my bag with passport and papers from my workplace, and my friend had to get his wife to leave her office and pick his up from home and bring it to us... the police wouldn't let us go ourselves (or be escorted by an officer).

 

For those of us who remember the 'smoking police' who used to hide and pounce around Hualumpong station amongst other places, there are still police around trying to catch folks.

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

1 minute ago, petedk said:

LOL  No. They only teach part time.

Well it shows just how big hypocrites they are!