Trump - no transgender people will serve in U.S. military: Twitter

[Boon Mee]

I was using the classification 4F as an example only. 

By the way, the Seal every one is talking about didn't transition to a woman until he was discharged. 

[Jingthing]

Soon after his disgusting bigot move against patriotic transgender Americans, the clown president had an event with American legion youth, boys and girls.

 

It was all according to his typical Mussolini style rally script until near the end. Then one person in the audience took the bold move of asking about the transgender ban.

 

The voice was quite clear and loud enough even on Fox News, where I watched it live.

 

Curiously notice in this white house video the voice isn't heard, only the clowns response, calling it very rude.

 

 

[rijb]

This is the type of stuff to look forward to when Pence takes over.  It's his influence here.

 

http://lifehacker.com/the-military-spends-more-on-viagra-than-on-transgender-1797266371

 

The military has been paying for medication and surgeries for transgender service members for almost a year, with the upper end of the cost estimate at $8.4 million dollars per year. If that sounds like a lot, remember that it’s less than the cost of:

• Viagra for soldiers ($42 million on name-brand Viagra, $84 million on erectile dysfunction drugs in general), as Jenna Ruddock points out.
• Three of the president’s government-funded golf trips ($3.6 million each).
• Two cents, per year, of your taxpayer dollars.

 

 

[PremiumLane]

8 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

I was using the classification 4F as an example only. 

By the way, the Seal every one is talking about didn't transition to a woman until he was discharged. 

Still trans when serving - try actually knowing what the definition of trans is if you are going to try and argue against it

Edited July 27, 2017 by PremiumLane

[Golgota]

29 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, the decision was a smart one for a lot of reasons not the least of which is, again, no one has a 'right' to be in the Armed Forces 

Plenty of other careers they can perform in with better aplomb than carrying a rifle into combat 

You do understand that the Army is NOT ONLY people with guns? Trump bared them even from desk jobs...

[kannot]

49 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's a political decision to please his hate base of deplorables and despicables. He's not running for a second term. The majority of Americans are in FAVOR of continued expansion of CIVIL RIGHTS for ALL Americans. He only wants to keep his minority of Americans base fired up for his first term, if he lasts through it. Hopefully not. He's a fascist monster.

democratically elected

[Jingthing]

Just now, kannot said:

democratically elected

That is not the topic here.

Yes, he is the legal president even though he lost the popular vote by a large margin. 

[ben2talk]

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's a political decision to please his hate base of deplorables and despicables. He's not running for a second term. The majority of Americans are in FAVOR of continued expansion of CIVIL RIGHTS for ALL Americans. He only wants to keep his minority of Americans base fired up for his first term, if he lasts through it. Hopefully not. He's a fascist monster.

I really do still believe that he's just a comedian. He's really just taking the piss to find out how far he can take it...

 

America just upgraded from Democracy to Idiocracy.

[Skywalker69]

The Pentagon Just Responded To Trump’s Transgender Military Ban

 

Trump fancies himself a king, issuing royal decrees from on high via Twitter. Today’s heinous, hateful announcement that he’d no longer be allowing transgender Americans to serve openly in the military was just the latest example of him spontaneously creating policy through the social network.

 

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/26/pentagon-just-responded-trumps-transgender-military-ban/

[Boon Mee]

16 minutes ago, kannot said:

democratically elected

According to a Rand study, transitioning military people have 14 times higher expenses than your normal soldiers, sailors, airmen etc

[Boon Mee]

DAD worked much better than this crazy mess that basically the sjw's have foisted on the American people. 

[Boon Mee]

DADT rather. 

[Prbkk]

20 minutes ago, ben2talk said:

I really do still believe that he's just a comedian. He's really just taking the piss to find out how far he can take it...

 

America just upgraded from Democracy to Idiocracy.

Maybe it's a remake of The Truman Show, with a twist. Sometimes I get the feeling it isn't real. Certainly surreal elements everyday.

[Thakkar]

11 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

According to a Rand study, transitioning military people have 14 times higher expenses than your normal soldiers, sailors, airmen etc

 

analysis by the Rand Corporation last year found that the costs of allowing transgender people to serve in the military would have a “minimal impact” on the budget, amounting to $2.4 million to $8.4 million each year, or 0.04 percent to 0.13 percent of the military health care budget. That’s little more than a rounding error when compared to the total U.S. military budget of roughly $700 billion.

 

• DoD should ensure strong leadership and identify and communicate the benefits of an inclusive and diverse workforce to successfully implement a policy change and successfully integrate openly serving transgender service members into the force.

 

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1530.html

 

 

[PremiumLane]

14 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

According to a Rand study, transitioning military people have 14 times higher expenses than your normal soldiers, sailors, airmen etc

<deleted>, that will really break the bank of the billion dollar military budget - talking about grasping at straws now

[PremiumLane]

4 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

analysis by the Rand Corporation last year found that the costs of allowing transgender people to serve in the military would have a “minimal impact” on the budget, amounting to $2.4 million to $8.4 million each year, or 0.04 percent to 0.13 percent of the military health care budget. That’s little more than a rounding error when compared to the total U.S. military budget of roughly $700 billion.

 

• DoD should ensure strong leadership and identify and communicate the benefits of an inclusive and diverse workforce to successfully implement a policy change and successfully integrate openly serving transgender service members into the force.

 

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1530.html

 

 

shhh, can't let facts get in the way of ideology, that just isn't cricket

[Thakkar]

I know a trans person living Stateside who supported Trump—until this latest twitter announcement. She was ok with him sh!tting on Muslims and Mexicans, journalists and women who aren't at least a '6'. But now she hates him. I also know Muslims who were ok with his Mexicans comment till he started talking about a Muslim ban—something that would affect their families visiting them in the US.

 

What this shows is that Trump supporters will continue to support him, until the day he comes after them (or people very like them) personally.

 

It seems a lot of his supporters are just like him—selfish to a fault.

 

T

 

*I realize that the above is a generalization based on a few anecdotes. In my defense, all I can say is that I've been watching too much Fox News and reading too much Breitbart.

[Boon Mee]

Bottom line it's all a ploy to get taxpayers to pay for sex changes. 

[DavisH]

7 hours ago, Caps said:

The BBC are also mentioning that the US Military have spent $84million for treating erectile dysfunction in contrast to the spending on Transgender medical treatment, must be all those special forces  

What's the point of being deep in the trenches (pardon the pun) if you can't get it up....lol

[F4UCorsair]

I'd be prepared to bet that if he had announced a drive to recruit more transgenders, the very same people would be criticizing him.....he can't do that, it's discriminatory.   

 

It would be difficult to imagine greater pettiness and churlishness than I see posted here about Trump.

 

 

Edited July 27, 2017 by F4UCorsair

[PremiumLane]

8 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Bottom line it's all a ploy to get taxpayers to pay for sex changes. 

Yeah right, evidence please, or you just throwing out any old cr@p and hoping it sticks 

[PremiumLane]

3 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

I'd be prepared to bet that if he had announced a drive to recruit more transgenders, the very same people would be criticizing him.....he can't do that, it's discriminatory.   

 

 

oh please do enlighten us how they would call it discriminatory, I would love to hear this nugget of wisdom

[F4UCorsair]

Just now, PremiumLane said:

oh please do enlighten us how they would call it discriminatory, I would love to hear this nugget of wisdom

 

Simple enough....if one group is favored over another, it's discriminatory.   Copy??

 

It's being said about a ban on recruiting transgenders, so obviously it applies if transgenders are recruited to the exclusion of other groups.

 

Before you get too excited and start frothing at the mouth, it's a hypothetical situation.  It hasn't, and won't, happen.

 

There's your 'nugget of wisdom'.   I can't make it any simpler for you.

 

 

Edited July 27, 2017 by F4UCorsair

[Boon Mee]

11 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

I know a trans person living Stateside who supported Trump—until this latest twitter announcement. She was ok with him sh!tting on Muslims and Mexicans, journalists and women who aren't at least a '6'. But now she hates him. I also know Muslims who were ok with his Mexicans comment till he started talking about a Muslim ban—something that would affect their families visiting them in the US.

 

What this shows is that Trump supporters will continue to support him, until the day he comes after them (or people very like them) personally.

 

It seems a lot of his supporters are just like him—selfish to a fault.

 

T

 

*I realize that the above is a generalization based on a few anecdotes. In my defense, all I can say is that I've been watching too much Fox News and reading too much Breitbart.

Fair enough but the VA can't handle the numbers of sick Vets they have now let alone trannys enlisting in order to obtain a sex reassignment on the tax payers dime 

[Jonnapat]

This President never fails with his idiocy and vindictiveness.

[Thakkar]

6 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Fair enough but the VA can't handle the numbers of sick Vets they have now let alone trannys enlisting in order to obtain a sex reassignment on the tax payers dime 

The point is, your RAND Corp reference was misleading.

[Thakkar]

19 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Bottom line it's all a ploy to get taxpayers to pay for sex changes. 

 

So that just makes them smart, like Trump:

 

"What we do know is that this [$916 million] loss...could be used to cancel out taxable income from other sources for up to 18 years, and therefore allow Mr. Trump to get out of paying federal and state taxes...If Mr. Trump wanted to defend his tax practices, he could simply release his returns. But it seems that even for Mr. Trump, paying no taxes would be a political embarrassment. It would show that the government bailed him out of his catastrophically bad business decisions. Legal or not, this is the kind of handout no ordinary citizen could hope to get no matter how dire the circumstance."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/opinion/mr-trumps-government-bailout.html

 

What's right for the goose is right for the gander, or a goose that needs to be a gander.

 

T

 

[Zyxel]

Today even some ISIS fighters are dressing like women, why this should not be allowed by the US army:

 

[Thakkar]

2 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, the decision was a smart one for a lot of reasons not the least of which is, again, no one has a 'right' to be in the Armed Forces 

Plenty of other careers they can perform in with better aplomb than carrying a rifle into combat 

"one has a 'right' to be in the Armed Forces "

 

if trans people dont don't have the right, then neither do impotent white males. Yet they are not barred and their viagra paid for by the tax payer. 

[Thakkar]

1 hour ago, F4UCorsair said:

I'd be prepared to bet that if he had announced a drive to recruit more transgenders, the very same people would be criticizing him.....he can't do that, it's discriminatory.   

 

It would be difficult to imagine greater pettiness and churlishness than I see posted here about Trump.

 

 

Since we're purely speculating, I bet if Trump had a three way with a sheep and a Great Dane on the White House lawn and it was caught on camera, his supporters will say it never happened. Or that it was a brave thing to do.